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Smithy 12-08-2021 07:03 PM

Gunman in Plymouth…
 

bots 12-08-2021 07:53 PM


Denver 12-08-2021 08:04 PM

There has been multiple fatalities but it is not terror related

hijaxers 12-08-2021 09:06 PM

5 fatalities ~ gunman shot dead , lord knows what this is about but its really awful and familes have lost innocent loved ones.

Cherie 12-08-2021 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hijaxers (Post 11083430)
5 fatalities ~ gunman shot dead , lord knows what this is about but its really awful and familes have lost innocent loved ones.

A domestic maybe?

joeysteele 12-08-2021 09:22 PM

Another senseless tragedy.
Just crazy.

Mystic Mock 12-08-2021 10:09 PM

Well you know the world is going bonkers when Plymouth is having a terrorist attack.

Imo shooting five people at random is a terrorist attack, whether it's ISIS related or not.

GoldHeart 13-08-2021 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11083460)
Well you know the world is going bonkers when Plymouth is having a terrorist attack.

Imo shooting five people at random is a terrorist attack, whether it's ISIS related or not.

Agree
it's horrific , and plymouth of all places aswell .

arista 13-08-2021 04:17 AM

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-58195419

[Police in Plymouth have confirmed
six people - including a suspected
gunman - have died in a firearms incident.
Devon and Cornwall Police were
called to Biddick Drive in the Keyham area at about 18:10 BST on Thursday.
Police said three females, two males and the suspect died.
All are thought to have died from gunshot wounds and
relatives have been informed.
An MP said one of those killed was under 10 years old and
more people were being treated in hospital.]


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arista 13-08-2021 04:17 AM

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hijaxers 13-08-2021 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11083432)
A domestic maybe?

Could have started that way but i heard that 2 dog walkers were shot.

Denver 13-08-2021 05:48 AM

6 dead including a child

Nicky91 13-08-2021 06:33 AM

not being seen as a terror attack?



and on our news in my nation our reporter said they aren't ruling out that it was a terror attack


:conf:

bots 13-08-2021 06:38 AM

The gunman

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cp...m119918687.jpg

Eyewitness Sharron, who lives nearby and did not want to give her full name, said what happened was "horrendous and so sad".

"Firstly, there was shouting, followed by gunshots - three possibly four to begin with," she said.

"This was when the shooter kicked in the door of a house and randomly started shooting. He ran from the house shooting as he ran and proceeded to shoot at a few people in the linear park up from the drive."

She said the "shooter proceeded along Royal Navy Avenue still shooting".

Another witness, Robert Pinkerton, said he "walked around the corner" and "bumped into a bloke with a shotgun". He said the man was dressed all in black


from https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-58195419

Oliver_W 13-08-2021 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11083432)
A domestic maybe?

I'd be interested to hear what his (apparent) motives were meant to be. "Nutter who goes crazy with a gun" and "domestic dispute gone too far" aren't teeechnicaaaally terror related. Was it one of these? Or was it driven by everyone's favourite bogeyman-de-jour Qanon?

Livia 13-08-2021 09:16 AM

I've not had the tv or radio on since yesterday... I'm only just hearing about this. It's more the kind of thing you're associate with the US. Horrible...

Cherie 13-08-2021 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11083530)
I'd be interested to hear what his (apparent) motives were meant to be. "Nutter who goes crazy with a gun" and "domestic dispute gone too far" aren't teeechnicaaaally terror related. Was it one of these? Or was it driven by everyone's favourite bogeyman-de-jour Qanon?

The door of a home was kicked by the Gunman so I am thinking a custody dispute or something, just awful

arista 13-08-2021 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 11083497)
not being seen as a terror attack?



and on our news in my nation our reporter said they aren't ruling out that it was a terror attack


:conf:


Of course Nicky
at that time ,not much info.

Smithy 13-08-2021 09:51 AM

He was an Incel by the sounds of it, he had a YouTube channel where he posted rants about that sort of stuff

user104658 13-08-2021 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 11083545)
He was an Incel by the sounds of it, he had a YouTube channel where he posted rants about that sort of stuff

And this will still be deemed "not terrorism". The world needs to wake up and realise that attacks by these people are increasing, and are ABSOLUTELY terrorism.

These men are radicalised online, full to the brim with hatred (mostly for women, but also for anyone who isn't "one of them", as with any other terrorism) and commit horrific acts of violence. It's not "not terrorism" just because it's in the name of 4chan and not some deity or other.

bots 13-08-2021 10:21 AM

i think it was a terror attack from many different angles, but primarily because after shooting up the house, he then shot at bystanders in the street. That's the ultimate act of terrorism

user104658 13-08-2021 10:33 AM

It's really hard to get your head around when the person then shoots themself - as is often what happens. How do families of the victims you get closure on that? What do you do with that? All so pointless and meaningless, and it's just over, you just have to deal with it and move on because there's no justice to be had. Sickening.

arista 13-08-2021 10:45 AM

Live on all Media
Police Chief - Plymouth


Jake Davidson,22
used his pump action shotgun
he killed 5
and himself.


Left 2 people Injured in hospital.

arista 13-08-2021 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 11083545)
He was an Incel by the sounds of it, he had a YouTube channel where he posted rants about that sort of stuff


[Plymouth gunman was 23-year-old virgin
who posted rambling YouTube videos complaining
he was too 'fat and ugly' to have sex and
boasted about being a 'Terminator' before
'killing five including girl, five, and
family then shooting himself dead'

Jake Davison, 23, a bodybuilder obsessed with
not being attractive to women,
named locally as the killer
He spoke of affinity with 'incel' movement
whose misogynist members have carried out
mass murder in US
Gunman went on a rampage through
the streets of Plymouth last night killing
five people and then himself
He was seen kicked down the door
of a house in his street and then opening
fire on strangers in the street
Dozens of police remained at the scene
tonight trying to piece together the details
of Davison's bloodbath
A girl of five, two women and two men
died in the attack, as did Davison.
The majority were strangers to him]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Plymouth.html

bots 13-08-2021 10:51 AM

one of the victims was a very young girl .... i just can't comprehend how someone could do that

arista 13-08-2021 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11083559)
one of the victims was a very young girl .... i just can't comprehend how someone could do that



He was out of his mind.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/08...8840093943.jpg

Ninastar 13-08-2021 10:54 AM

What a ****. Glad he’s dead. I think all shooters/terrorists should just be killed on site rather than sending them to jail where they get the glory and fame they want

arista 13-08-2021 10:58 AM

One of them
Women he killed, he knew her.




He had a registered
fire arm.
To be confirmed which gun that was.


2 others are Injured
in Hospital now

joeysteele 13-08-2021 11:06 AM

Just so tragic.
It's sickening anyone loses life like this unnecessarily however a child too.

Really awful, heartbreaking.

arista 13-08-2021 12:46 PM

The Child he killed
was a 3 year old girl,

Just Confirmed on the news


The 2 Women were aged 51 & 56

The 2 Men were aged 43 & 59

Cherie 13-08-2021 12:47 PM

as the details of this are emerging it is so shocking people will be left scarred for life after what they witnessed, endured and heard.

Tom4784 13-08-2021 01:05 PM

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Cherie 13-08-2021 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11083564)
One of them
Women he killed, he knew her.




He had a registered
fire arm.
To be confirmed which gun that was.


2 others are Injured
in Hospital now

Guessing it might be his Mum maybe

Shaun 13-08-2021 02:15 PM

Vermin. I can't really describe how angry and sickened I am by this...

ThomasC 13-08-2021 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11083460)
Well you know the world is going bonkers when Plymouth is having a terrorist attack.

Imo shooting five people at random is a terrorist attack, whether it's ISIS related or not.

No, not necessairly.

Terrorism is normally political. This could have been mental health related.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11083550)
And this will still be deemed "not terrorism". The world needs to wake up and realise that attacks by these people are increasing, and are ABSOLUTELY terrorism.

These men are radicalised online, full to the brim with hatred (mostly for women, but also for anyone who isn't "one of them", as with any other terrorism) and commit horrific acts of violence. It's not "not terrorism" just because it's in the name of 4chan and not some deity or other.

Incorrect, in my opinion.

Yes, attacks are increasing. It's not mostly against women. It's mostly against those who do not follow certain ideology regardless of sex..... ie religion based. FGM and religion based where the men are superior and women are just a commidity, yes, but in regards to terrorism I don't think you can say it's mainly women.

When a guy drove into people on the london bridge, he was aiming for people, not just women.

When Lee Rigby was slatered on our streets etc etc

Yes, online radicalism is huge. The people they recruit are vunerable themselves.

bots 13-08-2021 04:40 PM

The mother of the Plymouth gunman, Maxine Davison, and three-year-old Sophie Martyn have been named among the five victims of his shooting spree.

Ms Davison, 50, was shot and killed by her 22-year-old son Jake Davison at her home on Biddick Drive, Plymouth, on Thursday evening.

Davison went on to kill three-year-old Sophie, her father Lee Martyn, Stephen Washington and Kate Shepherd.

His attack lasted about six minutes before he turned the gun on himself.

In online videos Davison spoke of being "beaten down" and "defeated by life".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-58206101

ThomasC 13-08-2021 04:44 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ND9oW0VTIT4

This is mental health.

Psychosis and delusions of grandeur.

Crimson Dynamo 13-08-2021 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThomasC (Post 11083688)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ND9oW0VTIT4

This is mental health.

Psychosis and delusions of grandeur.

In that video he started off making a parallel about his struggle and that of humanity against the robots in terminator but ended by saying he imagined he was a terminator fighting to end humanity

the veil slipped

ThomasC 13-08-2021 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11083689)
In that video he started off making a parallel about his struggle and that of humanity against the robots in terminator but ended by saying he imagined he was a terminator fighting to end humanity

the veil slipped

Well his thought process was very distorted.

It's an extreme case of mental health gone very wrong.

He acted out on his thoughts.

It's a tragedy for all involved.


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