Texas really hates women's rights
 

if that is what the people of texas want who are we to question democracy in action?

6 weeks. :joker:

So basically the point when many women still don't know they're pregnant. What a bloody useless cut off point.

They'd literally have to be treating it like covid "lateral flow testing" and take a test every week just to make sure.

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Absolutely craziness. I don't know why I'm surprised, and yet I am.

It's a civil law, one requiring members of the public to report the crime.

Yep backwards the world is going on women's rights lately that's for sure. This is offensive and harmful

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Absolutely disgusting.

Backstreet abortions and women dying in lanes just like the 60's yay

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Yes Dezzy
Texas has been like that forever

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The least wealthy will suffer they say
unable to cross borders

Doubt it, no one will as Dezzy has stated
the new Texas Law will stop that

Those pesky white Texans!!!
(btw, nothing like this happens elsewhere)

“The law will stop illegal abortions” :think:

It's like...we are not exactly surprised but still disappointed.

Es ist zeit für säuberung eh LT :idc:.

Die Welt brennt, Frauen haben mancherorts keine Macht oder Rechte ... Aber in Texas beginnt die Reinigung?

If I say I'm beginning a career as an arsonist today by burning down one house, does that mean there aren't other arsonists in the world setting larger fires, or that it's OK for me to burn that house? If I go ahead and burn that house, would you not be concerned about me later deciding to burn the street?

Regardless, my only point was that "we shouldn't question democracy in action" isn't really a viable stance, given the number of historic examples we have of democracy in action leading to horrendous outcomes.

That's quite a dramatic analogy, TS. We're talking about democracy and women's rights in Texas. Women can step into 49 other states without leaving the country. And while I don't agree with the legislation, not one bit... I wonder that it called for a German quote. I take it you were referring to the clean ups at the beginning of the Holocaust. And how that relates to this story is quite beyond me.

I was referring to LT suggesting that we shouldn't "question the democractic decision of the people" when there are stark historic examples of the democratic decisions of the people having shocking outcomes, and using the fact that the Nazis were democratically voted into power in Germany as the most obvious example of why it's perfectly valid to question a democratic vote as being likely to have good outcomes, and that often it's not possible to see the true endgame until the votes have already been counted.

With regards to out-of-state abortions... there are mechanisms that could be used to make that illegal too, and regardless, the practicalities and costs of doing so mean that it's only an option for those who can afford it - when the majority of people seeking abortions are likely to be young, economically disadvantaged, or both... i.e. the very people who have neither the funds nor the practical means to travel out-of-state.

I thought some states/places refuse abortions if you're out of your state? I remember seeing this on the news years ago but not sure if it's still (unfortuantely) relevant today.

Jesus H.

Obviously there does need to be a limit, but six weeks?!

In a lot of cases you wouldn't even know you're pregnant at 6 weeks

in terms of intent it's following the taliban doctrine of subjugating women in the name of religion. It may not be as brutal yet, but it requires the same way of thinking.

“Our creator endowed us with the right to life and yet millions of children lose their right to
life every year because of abortion,” Abbott said in a bill signing ceremony, captured on
videos posted on social media. The Legislature "worked together on a bipartisan basis to
pass a bill that I'm about to sign that ensures that the life of every unborn child who has a
heartbeat will be saved from the ravages of abortion.”

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/05...abortions-law/

Exactly

Absolutely.

And a lot of these "pro lifers" are the same people who look down on single mothers and complain about them claiming benefits. What do they think happens to all these babies? And it's almost always men who will NEVER be in the situation who want to force women to go through with unwanted pregnancies

Is the morning after pill available in Texas?

I think we should put runaway Dads on the wall :laugh:

mmhhmm maybe instead of this bill, they could give men reversible vasectomies so they stop accidentally impregnating women :think:

Yep. The great David Attenborough said it best :

“Wherever women are given political control of their bodies, where they have the vote, education, appropriate medical facilities and they can read and have rights and so on, the birth rate falls – there’s no exceptions to that.”