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arista 21-09-2021 02:58 AM

Derbyshire: Mum , her 2 children & friend all Murdered
 
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cp...5211_metro.jpg


https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cp...635210_sun.jpg


[Parents' agony as girl, 11, is 'murdered'
alongside her best friend:
Heartbroken father says 'my little girl has gone'
after she is found dead alongside
her friend's mother and
brother - as police quiz man, 31
Charlie Gent said 'I don't want anyone to go
through what I'm going through'
after losing his daughter Connie
Meanwhile Jason Bennett collapsed
in tears as he laid out flowers for his
children Lacey, 11, and John Paul, 13
Lacey and John Paul's mother
Terri Harris, 35, also died after attack in
Killamarsh, near Sheffield, Derbyshire
Derbyshire Police said a 31-year-old man
has been arrested on suspicion of
murder and he remains in custody
]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...erbyshire.html

https://news.sky.com/story/derbyshir...-dead-12413172



Evil

LaLaLand 21-09-2021 03:07 AM

Saw this on the news earlier, absolutely horrific. :sad:

If proven guilty, I hope he rots. Evil.

Redway 21-09-2021 03:16 AM

Absolutely disgusting.

Cherie 21-09-2021 07:32 AM

I presume this was the 'boyfriend' what an evil monster

Niamh. 21-09-2021 08:16 AM

That is absolutely horrific

joeysteele 21-09-2021 08:58 AM

Another horrific senseless number of murders.
Just absolutely tragic.

Alf 21-09-2021 09:20 AM

It's cases like this that make a solid argument to bring the death penalty back.

Evil monster

thesheriff443 21-09-2021 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11096418)
It's cases like this that make a solid argument to bring the death penalty back.

Evil monster

Absolutely Alf, keeping him and the scum like him alive does no good for humanity.

user104658 21-09-2021 09:30 AM

Just awful, unthinkable really. And for someone else's child to also be caught up in this. I can't even imagine how her parents must be feeling.

user104658 21-09-2021 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11096418)
It's cases like this that make a solid argument to bring the death penalty back.

Evil monster

Honestly I don't normally support the death sentence but all I can really say on this is, if I was the father or a parent of the other girl who was killed, the guy would be better off begging the judge to lock him up until the day he dies because it would be better than what would happen if he ever got out.

bots 21-09-2021 09:46 AM

someone that does multiple murders that includes children cannot be and doesn't deserve to be rehabilitated. We should have whole life sentences for these crimes. There should be no doubt that they will never see the light of day again

I will never support the death penalty, and for some of these murderers it would be the easy route out for them

Alf 21-09-2021 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11096424)
someone that does multiple murders that includes children cannot be and doesn't deserve to be rehabilitated. We should have whole life sentences for these crimes. There should be no doubt that they will never see the light of day again

I will never support the death penalty, and for some of these murderers it would be the easy route out for them

But maybe if the death penalty was there, it would be a deterrent against these crimes.

I'm not for the death penalty either, but I'd be happy to look away and turn a blind eye in this case.

thesheriff443 21-09-2021 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11096424)
someone that does multiple murders that includes children cannot be and doesn't deserve to be rehabilitated. We should have whole life sentences for these crimes. There should be no doubt that they will never see the light of day again

I will never support the death penalty, and for some of these murderers it would be the easy route out for them

See the thing is you have this miss placed idea that these people suffer because they are living with what they done

If you are capable of killing not only adults but children the idea that they will feel responsible and sad for what they done is simple not true

In most cases these murderers don’t even admit to the crime hoping to get away with it

We put dangerous animals down I see murderers as no difference

And god for bid any like this happened to my family but I wouldn’t want the police involved because I couldn’t live knowing someone had did this was still alive

smudgie 21-09-2021 10:08 AM

Horrific. Poor bairns and the mum.
Those poor parents finding out their kids have been murdered.

thesheriff443 21-09-2021 10:08 AM

The justice system works by admitting your crime and saying the right things you will be eligible for parole

A man spent 17 years in prison because he wouldn’t admit to the crime because he was innocent

After someone took up his case he was found to be innocent the dna that convicted him was in fact never tested and wen it was it lead to the real criminal being locked up

rusticgal 21-09-2021 10:14 AM

Horrific....no other words for it.

user104658 21-09-2021 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11096425)
But maybe if the death penalty was there, it would be a deterrent against these crimes.

Unfortunately it never seems to work like this - men like this one see red and turn violent, they're not thinking of the consequences at the time so it doesn't really matter what the consequences are.

arista 21-09-2021 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11096394)
I presume this was the 'boyfriend' what an evil monster

Yes.



Boyfriend, 31, arrested over murder of his partner, 35, her daughter, 11, son, 13, and one of the youngster's best friends, 11, who were found dead in house during sleepover


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...sleepover.html

arista 21-09-2021 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11096421)
Just awful, unthinkable really. And for someone else's child to also be caught up in this. I can't even imagine how her parents must be feeling.



Yes that the worse part of this story
happy kids killed

Cherie 21-09-2021 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11096475)
Yes.



Boyfriend, 31, arrested over murder of his partner, 35, her daughter, 11, son, 13, and one of the youngster's best friends, 11, who were found dead in house during sleepover


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...sleepover.html



Always is, she probably wanted to finish it


A new report shows that in the UK a woman is killed by a man every three days.

Six women are killed every hour by men around the world, most by men in their own family or their partners.

Grim statistics huh?

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/...micide-census/

user104658 21-09-2021 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11096524)
Always is, she probably wanted to finish it


A new report shows that in the UK a woman is killed by a man every three days.

Six women are killed every hour by men around the world, most by men in their own family or their partners.

Grim statistics huh?

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/...micide-census/

Other than those involved in actual organised crime (cartels/drugs world etc.) women being killed by a partner or ex-partner is basically the #1 type of murder by a mile. A truly shameful statistic.

Niamh. 21-09-2021 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11096524)
Always is, she probably wanted to finish it


A new report shows that in the UK a woman is killed by a man every three days.

Six women are killed every hour by men around the world, most by men in their own family or their partners.

Grim statistics huh?

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/...micide-census/

Yeah, 3 current threads on here about women (and children) murdered by men, looks like 2 by a partner/ex partner and 1 possibly a stranger

AnnieK 21-09-2021 03:22 PM

A lady who worked for us in a temp contract was murdered by her estranged husband a couple of years ago. It was awful....she was the nicest lady and had just been offered a permanent role with the company she was at and had said she finally felt like her life was going in the right direction after a rubbish few years :sad:

Niamh. 21-09-2021 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11096542)
A lady who worked for us in a temp contract was murdered by her estranged husband a couple of years ago. It was awful....she was the nicest lady and had just been offered a permanent role with the company she was at and had said she finally felt like her life was going in the right direction after a rubbish few years :sad:

That's terrible Annie :(

user104658 21-09-2021 03:51 PM

My wife works with victims of male violence and it really is staggering. Obviously murder is the extreme end of the scale that's more visible - but what you generally don't hear about is the STAGGERING number who find themselves being stalked/generally harassed by ex-partners who just won't let go, for years (sometimes decades) after a breakup. And even when they're making threats (even with recorded evidence like text messages, emails or voice messages) there's very little that can be done unless something physically happens. People end up having to uproot their whole lives and relocate, and sometimes even that isn't enough and they follow.

Crimson Dynamo 21-09-2021 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11096425)
But maybe if the death penalty was there, it would be a deterrent against these crimes.

I'm not for the death penalty either, but I'd be happy to look away and turn a blind eye in this case.

It will never act as a deterrent but it would be brilliant for the family that is left to know that the guy who did it is not going to be n jjail taking drugs, watching tv and boasting about how he did it for many many years to come

and then get released because he is now a nice person...

Niamh. 21-09-2021 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11096553)
It will never act as a deterrent but it would be brilliant for the family that is left to know that the guy who did it is not going to be n jjail taking drugs, watching tv and boasting about how he did it for many many years to come

and then get released because he is now a nice person...

My main issue with the death penalty is the room for error

Vanessa 21-09-2021 03:57 PM

This is so heartbreaking :bawling:

user104658 21-09-2021 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11096558)
My main issue with the death penalty is the room for error

Exactly - my stance against it isn't particularly a moral one, it's the knowledge that the justice system and especially Trial by Jury is so flawed. If it was ever to be used, it would have to be in circumstances where there is absolutely no question of guilt, e.g. the crime was committed openly in a public place.

You can't even 100% trust video footage these days.

Niamh. 21-09-2021 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11096562)
Exactly - my stance against it isn't particularly a moral one, it's the knowledge that the justice system and especially Trial by Jury is so flawed. If it was ever to be used, it would have to be in circumstances where there is absolutely no question of guilt, e.g. the crime was committed openly in a public place.

You can't even 100% trust video footage these days.

Well, it's moral in the way that, imo 100 dead murderers isn't worth the life of 1 innocent man/woman

James 21-09-2021 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11096558)
My main issue with the death penalty is the room for error

This is what I think too. Sometimes I hear about cases where you think the death penalty is deserved, but there is always the chance of miscarriages of justice.

Crimson Dynamo 21-09-2021 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11096558)
My main issue with the death penalty is the room for error

same room for error in condemning them to a life in jail

Niamh. 21-09-2021 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11096596)
same room for error in condemning them to a life in jail

There is but there's always a chance that new evidence arises and they could be freed in that case. There's no coming back after an execution

rusticgal 21-09-2021 05:52 PM

But with Forensics and DNA…if the evidence is overwhelmingly compelling…:shrug:

Cherie 21-09-2021 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11096378)
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cp...5211_metro.jpg


https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cp...635210_sun.jpg


[Parents' agony as girl, 11, is 'murdered'
alongside her best friend:
Heartbroken father says 'my little girl has gone'
after she is found dead alongside
her friend's mother and
brother - as police quiz man, 31
Charlie Gent said 'I don't want anyone to go
through what I'm going through'
after losing his daughter Connie
Meanwhile Jason Bennett collapsed
in tears as he laid out flowers for his
children Lacey, 11, and John Paul, 13
Lacey and John Paul's mother
Terri Harris, 35, also died after attack in
Killamarsh, near Sheffield, Derbyshire
Derbyshire Police said a 31-year-old man
has been arrested on suspicion of
murder and he remains in custody
]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...erbyshire.html

https://news.sky.com/story/derbyshir...-dead-12413172



Evil

That front page :sad:

How will their friends cope...just awful

Crimson Dynamo 22-09-2021 07:44 AM

boyfriend now charged

Cherie 22-09-2021 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11096715)
boyfriend now charged

Good luck in prison

Niamh. 22-09-2021 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11096715)
boyfriend now charged

What a piece of ****

Vanessa 22-09-2021 09:42 AM

It was definitely the boyfriend.
He has a record of violence. But maybe she didn't know. :sad:

Cherie 22-09-2021 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11096770)
It was definitely the boyfriend.
He has a record of violence. But maybe she didn't know. :sad:

Probably why she was backing off - the terror they must have endured it is heart breaking


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