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arista 24-09-2021 12:00 PM

Labour Party Conference 2021: Labour Leader Live (Heckler Carol Vincent B.B.)
 
Starts Tomorrow in Brighton.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FAC9s0UX...jpg&name=small


One Main problem is Corbyn is there
but he is still not an Official MP
Some want him reinstated.


A chance for Leader Starmer to give the big speech
on Weds.

arista 24-09-2021 12:14 PM




https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_-GxPtX...jpg&name=small

arista 25-09-2021 09:56 AM

Labour is going for £10 a min. an hour

They have started their Conference
but it is not on the Parliament Channel.



Good on SkyNewsHD
giving a good Brighton Report.

Starmer in the Hotel
in a Meeting about his rule change


https://news.sky.com/story/starmer-f...rence-12417213

joeysteele 25-09-2021 10:13 AM

Well unfortunately, probably not even going to matter what else is discussed or decided here at this conference now.
Starmer has just about ensured, in my view, that the media across the board will be ONLY in the main discussing the thoughts of changing how the leader is elected.

I'd hope not, however I'm not expecting much to celebrate after this conference closes.

Of course I'll wait and see, and hope.
Because I doubt there's been a more urgent need to get to the point where a totally across the board, incompetent and uncaring government needs to be got out than there is now.

arista 25-09-2021 10:24 AM

Yes Joey
Next Election is Starmer's chance
to Win for Labour.

He must Stop Raw Sewage
being pumped into UK Rivers
Thats just Criminal
being done to save money in treating it

arista 25-09-2021 10:45 AM

Angela Raynor
the Deputy Leader
is more normal for all that conference
although a bit rough.

Ref:SkyNewsHD(at Brighton)/ GBnewsHD (at Brighton)/LBC

arista 25-09-2021 11:17 AM

[Angela Rayner, 41, claims her mother fed her dog food
and shaving foam because she could not read labels

and in 'modern times' she 'definitely' would have
been taken away by social services as
she opens up about growing up in poverty]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/09...2482607150.jpg
[Ms Rayner said in 'modern days' she and
her siblings would 'definitely' have been
taken into social services.
Her mother, Lynn Bowen (pictured), suffered
from mental health issues]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10024579/Angela-Rayner-opens-growing-poverty.html

arista 25-09-2021 11:37 AM

https://twitter.com/uklabour/status/...283441666?s=21



bots 25-09-2021 11:41 AM

i wont be watching it. It's irrelevant as labour are a long way from being an electable government

arista 25-09-2021 11:41 AM


arista 25-09-2021 11:44 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FAH_Mt7W...pg&name=medium

arista 25-09-2021 11:48 AM


joeysteele 25-09-2021 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11097918)
Angela Raynor
the Deputy Leader
is more normal for all that conference
although a bit rough.

Ref:SkyNewsHD(at Brighton)/ GBnewsHD (at Brighton)/LBC

I like her straight talking presentation of issues.
I have a fair bit of respect for Angela.

arista 25-09-2021 11:55 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FAIP6FNX...g&name=900x900

Leave Sunday Trading Alone

joeysteele 25-09-2021 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11097941)
i wont be watching it. It's irrelevant as labour are a long way from being an electable government

That's fine and I wouldn't expect a Con supporter to find much of interest to them at a Labour conference.

It's nothing like impossible or even unlikely that Labour can take away your government's overall majority.
Then with the votes of the SNP, who aren't even a mile from Labours positions, never mind miles.

The Cons would be out.
Such a connection too could then open the door to real democracy and and electoral system that ensures no party that doesn't get 50% of the votes in elections, can take overall power likely ever again.

I hoped for a PR policy before the next election, however, I'd be happy with a Labour/ SNP parliament.
One thing's certain, the SNP will NEVER help your Con government back into power, if it can do anything at all to prevent same.

arista 25-09-2021 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11097949)
I like her straight talking presentation of issues.
I have a fair bit of respect for Angela.





Angela is Going Live at 3PM

arista 25-09-2021 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11097941)
i wont be watching it. It's irrelevant as labour are a long way from being an electable government


Yes
Starmer should be Live on Marr Tomorrow
AM BBC1HD 9AM

Also Trevor Philips maybe 8:30AM SkyNewsHD

arista 25-09-2021 01:40 PM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/09...2576315346.jpg


Angela is speaking live in few mins

arista 25-09-2021 02:11 PM

Deputy Leader Angela Raynor
is now Live


Telling us about the New Deal
to start within 100 days of power

SkyNewsHD
BBCnewsHD
GBnewsHD

arista 25-09-2021 02:14 PM

She has started by saying
she got Covid, and is happy she got through it

arista 25-09-2021 02:23 PM

She says in NZ
their sister party gives workers rights.

You are Worker or Self Employed
Banning all Zero Hour Contracts

Labour will Ban
Fire and ReHire

arista 25-09-2021 02:35 PM

She has Concluded

arista 25-09-2021 02:50 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FAIRS1_X...jpg&name=small


No one Cares about that.

arista 25-09-2021 02:57 PM

The Beef:



arista 25-09-2021 03:42 PM

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/radio/live

Listen online free.


Times Radio DAB
like LBC
are at the Labour Conference until 7PM

Oliver_W 25-09-2021 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11097994)
She says in NZ
their sister party gives workers rights.

You are Worker or Self Employed
Banning all Zero Hour Contracts

Labour will Ban
Fire and ReHire

Fire and rehire should absolutely be banned. But zero hour contracts? Surely they're handy for students, carers,.parents ... People whose lifestyle is varied and might not be able to commit to a rota, but still want work?

Like, before I started work at the school I'm at now, I'd do supply work through an agency. If I couldn't be bothered or just wanted to go away, I'd just have to update my online calendar (or ignore my phone lol). Would that flexibility still exist if zero hour contracts were banned?

And I think the NHS has the same thing? My mum calls it the "Nurse Bank", but as far as I know it's for all NHS roles?

bots 25-09-2021 04:09 PM

i don't understand this obsession with banning zero hours contracts either. There are many situations where its advantageous to both the employer and worker

joeysteele 25-09-2021 04:23 PM

Personally, I would permit zero hours contracts for those who want them, on a voluntary basis.
Not zero hours contracts enforced.

No one should be forced to have to accept one.

I concede there's groupings who like zero hours contracts.
However, of those I've learned who are on them or have been on one, well I've yet to find anyone who would not prefer them gone.

Alf 25-09-2021 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11097996)
She has Concluded

Every cloud has a silver lining.

bots 25-09-2021 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11098026)
Personally, I would permit zero hours contracts for those who want them, on a voluntary basis.
Not zero hours contracts enforced.

No one should be forced to have to accept one.

I concede there's groupings who like zero hours contracts.
However, of those I've learned who are on them or have been on one, well I've yet to find anyone who would not prefer them gone.

yeah, i can go with that. The aim, i believe, is to stop exploitation, if it's the workers personal choice, there is no exploitation

joeysteele 25-09-2021 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11098032)
yeah, i can go with that. The aim, i believe, is to stop exploitation, if it's the workers personal choice, there is no exploitation

Oh I can see the benefits of them bots.
I agree with your last lines completely.

arista 25-09-2021 06:19 PM

Owen Jones
on BBCnewsHD
claims Labour are at war.

And he hates Starmer.

Oliver_W 25-09-2021 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11098083)
Owen Jones
on BBCnewsHD
claims Labour are at war.

And he hates Starmer.

Who cares what that sanctimonious cntu thinks or says?

Alf 25-09-2021 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11098083)
Owen Jones
on BBCnewsHD
claims Labour are at war.

And he hates Starmer.

The lad needs to get a proper job, like the rest of us. Time to muck in, Owen.

Crimson Dynamo 25-09-2021 07:25 PM

i can see kids being impressed

but not adults

bots 25-09-2021 07:57 PM

Sir Keir Starmer has been forced to drop changes to the way Labour elects its leaders after they were rejected by the party's left wing.

He had wanted to scrap one-member-one vote - but opponents said that would give Labour MPs too much say over who gets the top job.

Sir Keir is now hoping to get members to back a watered-down package of reforms in a conference vote on Sunday.

He says they will help the party win the next general election.

The row over Labour's constitution began earlier this week, when the leader proposed changing the way his successors would be chosen.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58689884

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Failing miserably is not a good look. Rule number 1 as a leader, don't make a stand if you are not certain to win

joeysteele 25-09-2021 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11098169)
Sir Keir Starmer has been forced to drop changes to the way Labour elects its leaders after they were rejected by the party's left wing.

He had wanted to scrap one-member-one vote - but opponents said that would give Labour MPs too much say over who gets the top job.

Sir Keir is now hoping to get members to back a watered-down package of reforms in a conference vote on Sunday.

He says they will help the party win the next general election.

The row over Labour's constitution began earlier this week, when the leader proposed changing the way his successors would be chosen.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58689884

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Failing miserably is not a good look. Rule number 1 as a leader, don't make a stand if you are not certain to win

You may be surprised here bots but I agree with you.
He has in my opinion ill advisedly created overshadowing his first major conference as leader with this leadership farce.

It is a fact Labour leaders do lose policies and votes at party conferences.
This leadership one however is what the media have instantly picked up on, and are unlikely to let go of it.

It is as you said, a fail, not to have got it how he really wanted it to go.
Sadly a lot of good that will be presented at this conference, will more than likely find itself lost amidst his, to me anyway, unnecessary and puzzling leadership nomination and voting change issue.

Oliver_W 25-09-2021 08:53 PM

Never hand over the control of the narrative. When Angela Raynor finished a speech by calling Tory MPs scum, everything else she said was instantly obselete. Her speech before may well have been brill, but the apparent inappropriateness of calling a spade a spade is all that people remembered...

bots 25-09-2021 09:17 PM

Apart from being completely inappropriate. Boris won a landslide election and labour were all but annihilated, so she is by association calling all the people who voted conservative scum. Bet that works out well for her :laugh:

Remember how well it went for Hillary and her deplorables comment

Oliver_W 25-09-2021 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11098240)
Apart from being completely inappropriate. Boris won a landslide election and labour were all but annihilated, so she is by association calling all the people who voted conservative scum. Bet that works out well for her :laugh:

Remember how well it went for Hillary and her deplorables comment

Deplorables, I forgot all about that :joker: : joker: wasn't there an event called the DeploraBall? :laugh:

But anyway, I can't feel too put out over an MP getting impassioned. I didn't vote for either party, so them exchanging barbed remarks means next to nothing to me :joker:


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