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Mark 01-12-2001 09:25 PM

Pop Idol
 
Pop Idol was on earlier and Aaron and Rik got through....poor Darius!!!

Anyway the final 10 are

1) Zoe Birkett
2) Gareth Gates
3) Laura Doherty
4) Hayley Evetts
5) Jessica Garlick
6) Rosie Ribbons
7) Korben
8) William Young
9) Aaron bailey
10) Rik Waller

Who do you think will win???
I think either Gareth Gates or Rik for the men and Zoe Birkett and Rosie Ribbons for the women!

Mark :laugh:

LEE 02-12-2001 11:27 AM

I think last nights show was very good, one of the most difficult to decide who should go through, and I must admit I didn't vote for that very reason.

I do think that the right 2 went through in the end, but even the judges said they thought at least 6 people really deserved to.

I really like Darius, but I don't think he did himself justice last night. The song he sung is actually one of my favourites but I don't think it was the right song for him. It's a shame because I think he is very talented and I have a lot of respect for him having the courage to do Pop Idol after Popstars, but I doubt we have heard the last of Darius Dinesh.

I think it's going to be really interesting over the next few shows. Each show has a theme and each week all the contestants will be singing the same sort of songs. Pete Waterman made a very good point about Gareth Gates last night, he said that so far we've only heard him sing one song, and even though he agreed that he sung this brilliantly, we don't know know what he is like with other styles. The same is true of all the contestants, I think it's going to really show who are the better performers.

:dazzler:

[Edited on 2-12-2001 by LEE]

WILDCHILD2K1 04-12-2001 04:50 PM

I dont think Gareth Gates should win but I have got a feeling he will. His voice didnt amaze me like Riks did or Zoes.
I want either Rik to win, not just to mess up the judges opinions (well, maybe that a bit) but I think he has such a nice voice.
Also, Zoe who won in the first round was really really brill and I would like to see her win.

Kaz 06-12-2001 08:36 AM

Noticed the undernoted article on Ananova today, comparing the voting out of one Pop Idol hopeful each week to Big Brother: :laugh:

I'm not arrogant, says Pop Idol's Rik

Pop Idol hopeful Rick Waller says he's never been arrogant in his life.

He was told he was getting "big-headed" by judge Simon Cowell after his latest performance on the show. Rick went on to win the public vote along with train driver Aaron Bayley.

"One thing I've never been in my life is arrogant," Rick told the official Pop Idol website. "Like a lot of people, Simon believes the whole 'Vote For The Fat Bloke' campaign was started by me. But why would I do that? I want to win the show on merit. I don't want a tainted victory."

Rick says the only reason Simon criticised his character was because he couldn't fault his performance. "I think the judges felt they had to say something bad about me," he said. "But I can't stop the papers printing stuff about me if they want to. I wish this could have happened another way, but at the end of the day, the public voted me through to the final and that's all that counts."

The final 10 contestants on Pop Idol will be given a song theme each week until they are whittled down to just two.

The show is set to continue until February with one contestant voted out each week, like Big Brother.
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Does anyone know what happens once we get down to the final two? Will it be up to the public to vote, or will the panel of 'experts' make the decision?

Incidentally, I believe the bookies are making Gareth Gates the favourite to win.

Mark 06-12-2001 09:29 AM

I hope it isn't up to the panel as that would be biased. I would imagine the choice in our hands!

Mark :spin:

LEE 06-12-2001 09:10 PM

It's still up to the public, right up until the end. That's what Ant and Dec said the other week anyway.

sweetlittlesara 08-12-2001 10:24 PM

i like gareth he is sooo sweet, awww

Kaz 13-12-2001 08:56 PM

Just a quick reminder that Pop Idol - The Story So Far is on ITV1 tonight at 10.30 p.m. It'll give us a chance to hear all the 10 finalists again. :dazzler:

sweetlittlesara 13-12-2001 10:12 PM

i am watching that right now, i didnt know how much i had missed!! Some of the auditons still crack me up tho!:laugh::laugh::laugh:

:nono: i hate you pete waterman!!

Mark 13-12-2001 10:15 PM

My sis bought the video, and some of them have me in fits of laughter!

I think Simon is the one to hate...not Pete!

Mark :noel:

Kaz 14-12-2001 08:19 AM

Gosh, I'd forgotten how many of the original applicants were truly awful. :shocked: I was in hysterics at the girl who did YMCA although - bless her - she was completely up for a laugh, and actually made Simon and Pete crack up too. :santa:

Roll on Saturday - hope Rick's voice has recovered by then. It would be a tragedy if he had to pull out having got so far. :xmas:

Feefs 14-12-2001 11:04 AM

I'm glad they are being made to sing all the same type of song each week, because I'm sure loads of people are heavily biased towards the sort of song they like.

Pete is right about doing different sorts of songs too. After all, if they want to stay in the charts for any length of time they'll need some variety. Even Westlife have taken to doing up-tempo numbers!

Some people might have a fantastic voice and can get every note in a ballad, but to carry off something more upbeat and poppy requires timing and perhaps a little vocal agility (as opposed to strength).

I will be interested to see how Gareth gets on with something a little less misty-eyed. I've only managed to see him singing once, on the very first show. When he started to sing I really paid attention. In fact I moved right up to my tv for a closer look. I'll confess I shed a tear. Something none of the other consestants have managed. I ran around telling everyone about him - insisting he had the 'voice of an angel'. Although, to be fair to the other finalists I'd just watched some of the worst singers ever. Plus, I was genuinely shocked to hear such a beautiful composed voice after the stress of him telling his name. In fact, I was practically in tears before he started. And he's really cute and you could pick him up and put him in your pocket.:laugh:

I think this Saturday I'll try to watch everyone as if I'm seeing them for the first time. Does anyone know what sort of songs they are doing this week?

Janette 14-12-2001 08:22 PM

I really liked Rik, in fact I was close to tears when I heard him last week. But the guy the week before who sang "Light My Fire" was amazing!
I think it's going to be very interesting hearing them all doing different stuff each week. Like Simon Cowell said, we've only heard Gareth sing Living Without Wings so can he rock? I don't think he'll win, his voice is just too weak.

Kaz 14-12-2001 10:42 PM

News from Ananova at lunchtime today:

Big Rik pulls out of Pop Idol

Rik Waller has pulled out of Pop Idol after losing his voice. He will be replaced by Darius Danesh. Darius has been drafted in because he came third in Rik's heat.

A Pop Idol spokeswoman told Ananova that Rik is very disappointed at losing out on the chance of becoming a pop star. He had hinted that he may be forced to pull out of the competition because of a sore throat at a press conference earlier this week.

The spokeswoman said: "Rik has seen a throat specialist and he has no other option but to pull out. His part in the competition is over."

The first of Pop Idol's ten final heats is on ITV1 tomorrow at 6.05pm. One hopeful will be voted off the show every week, until the public are left with just two finalists to choose from.

HOWEVER........ another story filed at 15.40 today:

Show's not over for Pop Idol's Big Rik

Rik Waller may still be able to take part in the final of Pop Idol. It was thought the contestant would have to pull out altogether after losing his voice. But after consulting a throat specialist, Rik has announced he might be fit enough to perform on the ITV show next week. It means there will only be nine contestants in the first of Pop Idol's 10 final heats this Saturday.

A Pop Idol spokeswoman told Ananova they want to give Rik every chance. She said: "If Rik rests his voice he may be all right to continue. He's very hoarse and need to rest. I'd say it's 50/50. "It means there will be only nine contestants in this week's heat. It's unfortunate but the only way to do it." If Rik is not well enough to perform the following week, he will be replaced by Darius Danesh, who came third in Rik's round of auditions.

Rik said: "I am absolutely over the moon. It's good to be given the chance to get better so I can show people what I can do." And in a joking reference to the 1970s rocking toys, he added: "Weebles wobble but they don't fall down."

Darius said: "Rik's a tremendous guy and I'm really, really sorry to hear he's too ill to perform on this Saturday's show. I'm happy to be Rik's stand-in if his illness persists. We get on really well. I'm sure he'll get enough rest to put him back on his feet and entertain us with that voice of his."
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Poor Rik!!! :bawling:

I think he's fabulous (although I think Darius is great too), and would hate him to lose out because of this. Get better soon, Rik. :xmas:

sweetlittlesara 14-12-2001 11:06 PM

the YMCA girl was on capital fm a couple of weeks ago she was having a right laugh about herself with foxy. Aparantly she went to the pop idol auditions thinking it was for a television presentling job and when she got there she decided to give it a go anyway, sounds a bit like penny!!

WILDCHILD2K1 15-12-2001 12:54 PM

I hope Rik goes for it - I think has an amzing voice and he deserves to be there after all the harsh media and controversy about him.
Who do you lot want to win and who do you think is gonna win?
I think Gareth will end up winning it cos he got like 64% of the vote but I want either Zoe or Rik to win cos I think that their voices are lovely and they have impressed me the most - doesnt mean to say I dont think the others ar e good - they all did well!!:snowman:

WILDCHILD2K1 15-12-2001 12:56 PM

I know Mark and I posted this up the top but as no one has answered I still thought I would post it again!
Who do you trhink will win? :elephant:

Kaz 15-12-2001 07:10 PM

Having watched tonight's show, Wildchild - I really don't know!!

I didn't think Gareth did himself justice, nor did Aaron. Will, on the other hand, was absolutely superb. I really liked Jessica and Zoe too. Now I'm more confused than I was before!!! :spin2:

Janette 15-12-2001 07:11 PM

With 5 minutes to go before the results of the first show, I still say the same. William is a total star! (At least I know his name now, see my previous post!) He was incredible! Don't know what everyone sees in Rosie though, I just don't find her voice anything special

Kaz 15-12-2001 08:06 PM

Well, I have to say I'm shocked. Korben was voted out this week. :shocked:

Although he wasn't one of my favourites, it hadn't crossed my mind that he would go so early on - just goes to show how good a judge I am! I think Laura was a very lucky girl, and definitely got the sympathy vote this week. She does have a fantastic personality, though. :xmas:

Feefs 16-12-2001 12:22 PM

I really liked Laura, but couldn't give her my sympathy vote because I wrote the phone number down wrong. I didn't think the song suited her either, but it's not like she sang it badly. Her personality might be stronger than her voice, but it also adds to it.

I also have no idea what makes Rosie so fantastic. She's technically a good singer, but there's nothing interesting about her voice. Vocals need character, not just musical accuracy, otherwise we'd just listen to instruments the whole time.

I didn't see Corban, so I've no idea if he was any good. The weakest performance I saw was Aaron, but I've never been blown away by him when other have thought he was great.

I enjoyed the questions from the audience section, even if the one about why they didn't wait for 10 weeks to do the voting was daft. BECAUSE IT MAKES FOR BETTER TV!

Perhaps they explained it properly at the beginning of the show, but why did they change the rules to 'vote for your favourite'? Anyone got any good conspiracy theories?

LEE 16-12-2001 08:24 PM

I completely missed this weeks show cos I've been away for the weekend and forgot to set my video.

It surprised me that Korben went. He wasn't my fave by a long way, but I would have put him in the top 5. I'm afraid I don't agree with you Janette and Feefs cos I think Rosie has an amazing voice - by far the best of the girls.

What do I know though !! :dazzler: :shocked: :spin2:

Kaz 16-12-2001 09:24 PM

Sorry LEE - and I know it's a bad move to disagree with an Administrator - but I have to side with Feefs and Janette. :santa:

IMHO Rosie maybe has a technically good voice, but it does absolutely nothing for me. Then again, I don't like Maria Carey either. :shocked: Zoe's my favourite from the girls but, at the moment, my favourite is William. :rudolph:

Mark 17-12-2001 12:51 PM

I think Zoe stands a very good chance, and I think Gareth as well.

LEE I am going to have to side with Kaz, Rosie has a good voice, but thats it! She doesn't really look as if she puts much effort or enthusiasm in to it.

Sorry to argue!

Mark :noel:

WILDCHILD2K1 17-12-2001 06:20 PM

I reckon Will is gonna wn cos the Pop Idol board are crazy about him and he is good, u gotta admit!
But my fave is Zoe, I think, for her age, she is brilliant and she is gonna go far!! I wann her to win! :hello::dazzler::santa::xmas:

LEE 17-12-2001 07:37 PM

I'm obviously on my own here in liking Rosie. :grin:

I didn't see the show on Saturday so I don't know how she performed then, I'm only going on past performance, however I still think her voice is amazing, she isn't my favourite out of the whole group, but I still think she is the best girl. :dazzler:

Kaz 19-12-2001 10:11 AM

Looks like Rik could well be out of Pop Idol - latest story from The Sun:

ROLY-POLY Pop Idol wannabe RIK WALLER is out of the show, says his father. Dad Kris told me the sickly singer has not responded to treatment for a throat bug. And short of a last-minute miracle, the 20st TV star will not be well enough for Saturday's show.

Riki pulled out of last weekend's heat after falling ill. Pop Idol bosses told him he could stay in the running if he is fit enough to perform this weekend.

Rival DARIUS DANESH, rejected in an earlier heat, is standing in the wings to take his place.

But Kris said: "Rik is not improving and isn't well enough to sing. I know it's Christmas and a time for miracles, but it is not going to happen. We have seen one of the best voice specialists and he says it won't be better for seven to ten days. It looks like it's over. We will know for definite on Thursday."

Speaking from their home in Gillingham, Kent, Kris added: "It's sad but I'm a realist. I would urge anyone who's thinking of betting on him — don't. The other contestants have been very supportive and Darius told us he did not want to get on the show like this."

Kris reckons Rik will still be able to land a record deal. He said: "I think Rik is the people's champion. He might not be a Pop Idol but I am convinced that he will be selling music for the next 40 years. The public know who he is and I don't think the fact he hasn't won it will count against him. I am confident there will be a demand for him."

Like the other contestants, Rik is contracted for three months after leaving the show to 19 Management, run by Spice Girls guru Simon Fuller and BMG Records, under judge Simon Cowell.

Popstars reject Darius claims he saved the heavyweight from the axe last week.
He told me he talked ITV bosses around after they had decided to boot Rik off the show. He said: "I had a chat with the producer Nigel Lythgoe, who I knew from Popstars and told him I didn't think it was fair to kick Rik out. He had done so well to get this far, it would have been a shame if he missed out now.

"Everyone felt the same so Nigel had a word. Rik owes me one. I would feel bad if I got in but he knows it's only fair if he's not better by the weekend."
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What a terrible shame for Rik. :bawling:

LEE 19-12-2001 10:24 AM

It is a huge shame. After working so hard and getting so far to have to withdraw cos of illness. :bawling:

I hope he does get other offers because I think he deserves a career in music. Perhaps it is for the best. He has a wonderful voice but if he succeeds without the constraints of the show he will be able to do what music he chooses. The eventual Pop Idol winner will have very little control over his music and how he/she is presented.

Good Luck Rik :dazzler:

Feefs 19-12-2001 10:44 AM

I'm being cynical I'm thinking that he probably won't come back, even if his voice is better. I think it's unlikely that he would win this show, but that doesn't mean he isn't popular enough to have a successful recording career. This way, he can avoid the negative press that comes with being voted off, and that will inevitably come with a show like this. He can rise above any bickering, and will probably get some sympathy for missing out.

The sort of contract they have in mind for the winner wouldn't suit him, so I think he should stay out. Plus, it would mean we'd get to see Darius again. I don't think he'll win either, but he's good entertainment. I'd like to see him with some kind of recording contract too, but I think he needs a few more weeks with stylists, and voice-coaches to help him on his way to a less cheesy future.

I think the public also need to see more of him without the dodgy facial hair. I missed him mouthing 'I love you mum' to the camera, so I'll be glued to my tv hoping for a repeat. :lol:

WILDCHILD2K1 19-12-2001 07:21 PM

It is such a shame that Rik might not be able to perform - after all the campaigns, the proving wrong, the hard work and Darius waltz's in and takes his place! Its not fair and I am praying for a miracle for Rik! :bouncy:

Mark 19-12-2001 08:39 PM

Did anyone actually get the email campaign??? Id love to see a copy if any one has it!!!

Mark :hello:

Mairi 20-12-2001 12:34 PM

My favourites on Saturday were: Rik, Gareth, Jessica, William and Korben and look what happened to Korben!

On Lorraine, a week or so ago, Helen said she liked Gareth best.

There's a long way to go yet, weeks and weeks, so it's early days to go for an outright favourite. I'll let you know later!
:dazzler:

Janette 22-12-2001 04:35 PM

I'm going to give my prediction now, Aaran will go this week and William will win the whole thing.

Oh my god, I've just jinxed them both :xmas:

Feefs 22-12-2001 04:39 PM

It's Christmas songs tonight. What do you think they'll all be singing?

If Darius is singing, this will be a fantastic opportunity to cheese it up. But being Christmas, can Simon complain?:lol:

Janette 22-12-2001 04:41 PM

Does anyone know if Rik is on tonight or Darius? I know Rik was seeing his specialist on Thursday but there's been nothing on teletext about it

Mark 22-12-2001 04:44 PM

I think its Darius.....

Ill post up the results as soon as its over!

Mark

Janette 22-12-2001 06:33 PM

I totally stand by my previous prediction:spin:

Kaz 22-12-2001 07:15 PM

Janette, I agree totally with you in that I would like Will to win! :dazzler:

Tonight I think either Aaron or Laura will go.

Mark 22-12-2001 07:43 PM

Im going to have to disagree with you....

I think Zoe and Jessica should win. I don't really like Will at all.

Thats probably cos im a bloke though!
I just don't like his style of singing that's all!

Mark :dazzler:

Janette 22-12-2001 08:20 PM

Yup, it's because you're a bloke! :dazzler:


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