Weds 31st Live Ch5HD Keir Starmer on Jeremy Vine 9:15AM
 

The Labour Leader
is going Live on the Panel
to take questions from the public.


Tomorrow morning
Live in the ITN Studio

Live Starmer Now



Until 9:45AM

No one else


Just Starmer and Vine

Starmer is happy for Liz Truss

To take any of his plan

First Caller

Nationalization is needed


Starmer points out
it is better to lower the costs fast.

Great Vine
now showing an Angry Clip
from Owen Jones.

Starmer is not focused on Owen

Another Live Caller

Standing Charges,

Starmer will have a look at that.


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Thats it
just 25mins

It was worth doing
Starmer and Vine

The questions were great
one 68 old lady thinks it will keep going up.

Starmer confirmed
his plan is fully costed until April 2023
and he would have another plan
right after that.

I watched it arista ,all that came across to me is his constant saying " I want to be the next PM", no real solutions to anything, but we will see.

what he is basically saying is the country can't afford to nationalise all the industries he wants to. After all, it has to be funded by the people and we ain't got any money :laugh:

He also would not stand by the strikers, I don't think he said it directly but he said he would not join them.

i've been saying it for a bit now that i think the probability of riots is pretty high. If Keir joined the picket lines then he would be associated with any rioting that happens by default. My guess is that is the reason he doesn't want to be associated with the strikes

:joker:

No-one's focused on Jones, nor do they take him seriously.

You've mentioned that you vote tory and love Boris, (I believe you're a former labour voter) so why would you hold being a tory against Starmer, out of interest?

Obviously for folks like me, that's a massive issue, but not for Tories.

I know people like to mock O-J, but he is 100% correct in that clip, and he works at the Guardian, so he definitely was not a cheerleader for Corbyn. Starmer, actually was, though.

It was a twitter vid he posted a while back (I think), he wasn't on the show saying that.

Can't afford to privatise so he wants to spend x10-15 more to pay off energy companies :facepalm:

Kaz never said anything about Tories? The world isn't split between those who support every single strike, and Tories.

Has he said why he isn't, btw?

I was asking why a labour leader acting like a tory, is a problem for another tory. I didn't understand why not supporting strikes would make her highlight it as an issue.

When has he acted like a Tory?

As quick examples, he whipped the party to abstain on the most of the freedom restricting bills the tories introduced (protest/crime), and he's scrapped every single one of the 10 pledges he used to get elected as leader.

He's scrapped his energy nationalisation pledge, which would cost £2-5billion, in favour of freezing prices and paying energy companies over £30billion instead, besides the only policy he's offered being a reduction of business taxes.

He stands against workers, and gives interviews to the sun when saying he never would.

Okay yeah, most of that is pretty damning :joker:

But the Sun thing? I don't really see why trying to reach working class people should be a problem? Sure he said he never would, but politicians do things they say they wouldn't, or vice versa, all the time.

I can take Starmer's point that unless you win power then you cannot do anything.
So I accept it has to be at least seen to be, if not to actually do so, that after 2 election defeats on virtual identical manifestos to be going back to the drawing board.

However going back to the drawing board should not necessarily mean you dispose of the more popular policies of said manifestos.

Starmer really infuriates me, he needs to stop the controlled lawyer summing up type of his delivery and get policies he can show real passion for.

I'm annoyed he pussyfoots around the current strikes issues.
He SHOULD lead properly and say he backs them.

Furthermore, one of the most popular policies Corbyn DARED to include again in a Labour manifesto.
Re-nationalisation of gas and electricity.
It is now reported that even Con voters now support this more than not.

His short term fix of freezing the energy cap for 6 months is a good one, that would get all through the Winter months.
Which is also a Lib Dem strongly supported idea of theirs too.

Then decide what to do next in assessing the picture post April.

However he needs a long term policy and this is where the re-nationalisation of energy is a much more than likely now winner.
He should not act like he's ashamed of that policy from the last 2 elections because it was the one most popular from Labour even in 2017.
I think it would be even moreso now.

So for goodness sake Labour MPs, shake Starmer into reality and persuade him this could and should be his firm way to power now.
Andy Burnham has indicated his support to it.

Just wake up Starmer for goodness sake.
Oh and IF he was to adopt a PR policy too, he'd likely walk an election.

I really find Starmer as leader infuriating that he says he's pragmatic on nationalisation.
Just take it back on board and stop the avoidance of its merits.

I was just repeating that he wouldn't join the strikes Slim, which Labour think he should do, As a Tory(now) I don't like strikes, but if he wants to be a Labour PM,surely he should be following their policies.

He should be backing the strikers and workers.
He shouldn't either be taking action against his MPs who do say they support them and also actively do so.

If Liz Gross sets out to limit workers rights or even shockingly sets out to prevent them.
Starmer would then be screaming, rightly, how undemocratic and against human rights that was.
Yet he has at best shown less than lukewarm sympathy with the very just grievances these workers have.
Of which they've been pushed to the limits on and taken strike action.

If the party the Unions helped bring into existence hasn't a leader who will stand with them then that's really bad and WRONG.

It's a difficult one, Keir was always going to be seen as unexciting compared to Boris, but its going to be a totally different dynamic against Liz or Rushi. The odds must still favour a labour government at the next election as long as Keir remains steady

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Bless Owen
doing his Starmer Labour research
in that store

It is a great Clip
Anger played Direct to Starmer
On the Screen in the ITN studio
for Live Ch5HD J. Vine and Starmer
for 25mins

Who Ignores Owen


I hope Starmer does the same show again
Vine invited him back.