Animal Rebellion to sabotage the Grand National
 

SkyNews Text :
[The paper claims to have uncovered a plot
by 100 animal rights activists to
sabotage the Grand National.
The campaigners plan to use
ladders and bolt cutters
to storm Aintree
and then form a human barricade
across the racecourse.]

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Bunch of thugs from the sounds of it, and doing more harm than good to any cause of Animal Objections. Will frighten the poor horses half to death if they enacted it. Stupidity.

The Grand National should be banned! How many horses have to die each year before they scrap it, they would do it quick enough if it was jockeys getting killed instead of horses.

Better not be gorilla glue.

What are the odds that they do this?

Yes now it is Front Page
claiming 100 of them,
will do this?

Despite some cosmetic changes to the Grand National, Horses are still bring killed taking part in it.

I'm not usually in favour of too extreme action but it is time, in my view to reduce the size of the fences and number of them, plus reduce the length of the race too.

Too many, and really one is too many, good Horses have lost their lives in this race.
The authorities don't seem to be listening properly so maybe regretfully more action is needed to highlight the dangers of this race as to Horses.

It's all just about money making anyway, the welfare of the beautiful Horses a good way down the list of priorities.
Not good at all that.

No
it is tradition
Even you, Jet,
must understand that.


To many betting companies
could go under

it's a cruel race, i would be happy if it was never run again

I agree totally.

https://www.horsedeathwatch.com/

its not just the Grand National

I agree, horses die for human greed yet again, some people haven't a clue what goes on behind the scenes, no animal should be used for human entertainment,they are not ours to use and abuse, No animal lover can condone this so called sport ,vegans are not manic or a mob they just care about the animals and kudos to them all .

Not this old chestnut,how many "traditions" have we got rid of as they no longer fit in with modern life, Its cruel, you must understand that.

Life can be
just that.


Yes it is the British tradition
for this mega race.

Its all about money arista,there is a lot of cruelty involved,so for me, ban it ,get your money betting on humans who have a choice.Im sick of the human race using animals to celebrate stuff and use to get money.

The Grand National should be banned. I have no problem with flat racing but the jumps are brutal.

Targeting the nations favourite horse race where almost everyone has a flutter on. That's a good way to gain support. Of the people.

It's obviously not about gaining support or even caring about the horses. It's about spoiling other people's enjoyment because they want others to be as miserable as they are. It's about their own selfish ego's and them saying "look at me everybody, I care for animals, because I'm better than you. Arne't I a great person? Please like me and give me the attention I crave"

If people's enjoyment mattered more than animal welfare we'd still be able to have a flutter on dog fights and bear baiting.

It's not animal welfare though is it? Because who's going to look after those horses if they can't do what they're bred for? Who's gonna feed them, give them a home, clean up their sh!t? Infact they're no longer gonna be bred so they won't ever exist anyway.

They won't be bred for racing over the sticks when people come to their senses, they'll be bred only for flat racing. I don't want to see another tent around a dying horse which has been forced to jump almost impossible hurdles so people can have their jollies.

People die enjoying themselves (skiing accidents ect) People die travelling to go enjoy themselves. People die going to work to earn money so that they can enjoy themselves. Death is part of life. The horses enjoy what they do, if they they didn't, they would just refuse to do it as some do. They're earning their keep and being well looked after for it.

There's far more injuries to horses that run on the flat than over fences. Because on the flat they're going at a much greater speed and they pull muscles.

Every effing year we have this argument.

People die doing stuff they've chosen to do. To force an animal to do it is, like mentioned, akin to bear-baiting. I have seen no evidence at all to suggest flat racing is more dangerous, so that's just hearsay.

We're not going to agree, I can see that.

I bet they used to say that about cock fights.

On the flat they're racing on hard ground going at top speeds. Over fences it's mainly on soft ground going at a nice steady gallop.

If you don't like it then don't watch it but why use the excuse that you care for horses to spoil others (including the horses) enjoyment. If you care that much then let's see you taking care of all these horses you want putting into retirement. Less talk, more action.

You're assuming you know that my concern is false. I am a supporter of Redwings... I do care for horses and animals in general. It's a bit harsh of you to dismiss my concern as empty do-gooding... But it's not surprising.

Yes We Do.


But this is about that group
claiming to have 100 to invade the event,


But now it is in public
I am sure they can now,
stop them

Lots of horses enjoy it and for their rights as horses who like a good old run out then the national should go ahead.

I'n not talking about supporting some charities. I'm talking about you building some stables to house the hundreds of horses you want putting into retirement. Feeding them, grooming them, walking them, paying their vets bills. Go on, really show you care.

Yes that's true

Of course, some horses get injured.



Police need to arrest any that try to halt this event.

What next?

Horses, cows, pigs, sheep and chickens just roaming about unchecked and free in the countryside and villages!!

Or are we allowed to keep them from that as our emotional slaves, like our cats, dogs budgies and snakes.?

So if I disagree I'm supposed to build stables and home horses that would not exist had they not been bred especially for racing. Phase it out, don't breed further horse stocks then no one will have to worry.

Anyway, if you support it so much, I expect you already contribute to the upkeep of retired horses right now? Or are you demanding something of me you wouldn't do yourself?

You and Alf are reducing the argument to the ridiculous. So this is where I drop out. This is serious debates after all.

I have to say I go with bots, jet, Kazanne and Livia on this one.

I'm a late convert to the wrongs of this race.
I feel they've had plenty time to make the race safer.
Since they obviously will not or cannot then I'd support the ending of it.

Racehorses who haven't been winners can be treated badly and can be passed on to some awful individuals.
Even sent to slaughter.
So I'm not persuaded of the caring owners tripe.

It's about money and getting big money at that with only ever increasing danger to the Horses.
They are beautiful beings and shouldn't have their lives put at risk for the purpose of moneymaking and so called (huh), entertainment.

Well that's ridiculous of you to do that.

So what happens to these animals? Do we stop them from breeding so theres eventually enough to manage. Or do we allow them to live the lives they were originally born to do, which is to live as freely as we do on mother earth(or more free than we do cause they shouldnt have to abide by our rules)..cause I see some serious health and safety issues for us if we allow that.

Animal rights, should he exactly that.. the right to walk on mother earth without human interference, No?

Read your post again Parm and then tell me I'm being ridiculous.

Too good for us, are you?

Its true though, people want this stopped for the rights of the animal. So I'm asking where does that begin and end.

My first question is who the **** are we to decide what animals are free to roam freely and which are not?

https://www.peta.org.uk/blog/the-gra...-horse-racing/

The Grand National: 9 Things They Don’t Tell You About Horse Racing

Whatever the results of this year’s Grand National, there’s one thing that’s a safe bet – horses will suffer as a result of the unethical spectacle at Aintree. To date, horses have died at the Grand National Festival in 16 out of the last 18 years, yet ITV still broadcasts it.

Some of those 9:

Horses die on the track.
To date, Horses have died at the Grand National Festival in 16 out of the last 18 years. Last year, 10-year-old Lilbitluso was euthanised after falling at the Canal Turn fence on the first day of the event. Horses who fall, are injured, or die endure a traumatic experience – a stomach-churning mess of tangled limbs, fractured bones, and broken spines.

Horses May Be Drugged
Drugs, both legal and illegal, can be as ubiquitous in racing as ridiculous hats are at Ascot. Horses may be drugged to mask the pain of existing injuries and conditions, keeping them running when they should be resting or receiving treatment. And illegal drugs are sometimes used to try to make horses run faster. For example, Mahmood al-Zarooni – a trainer with one of the world’s biggest horse-racing operations – was banned from racing for eight years for doping horses with prohibited steroids.

Horses May Be ‘Retired’ to the Abattoir
When horses used for racing get too old or stop performing well enough to be profitable, they’re often sent to slaughter. Approximately 1,000 horses from the industry are killed in abattoirs in Britain every year and turned into dog food or cheap meat, while others face horrific live-export journeys to Europe.

The Grand National Is One of the World’s Deadliest Courses
The infamous Becher’s Brook is known as the world’s most dangerous jump and has racked up many fatalities, yet race officials refuse to remove it. Racing 40 skittish horses at a time makes accidents yet more likely, while the minor so-called “improvements” that have been made to the course in response to public protest are mere token gestures. It’s the danger of the race that draws in crowds and lines bookies’ pockets – and it’s the horses who pay with their lives.

They’re Forced to Race While They’re Still Growing
Making horses risk their lives on the racecourse is wrong, regardless of their age. But it’s especially heartbreaking to learn that these animals are commonly forced to begin racing when they’re barely more than babies and their bodies are especially prone to damage. It’s hardly surprising, then, that injuries, lameness, and exhaustion are common.
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I hope the protesters are successful in stopping the Grand National and to hell with some peoples ‘enjoyment’!!

Whatever the outcome of people building things for us, people will die on those building sites. Let's ban building things and ban building sites and construction work? It's cruel to humans.

Whatever the outcome of people using transport to get to a destination, people will be killed. Let's ban transport, it's cruel to humans.

Whatever the outcome of people eating food. People will die. Let's ban food, it's cruel to humans.