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arista 20-04-2023 11:31 AM

Deputy PM Raab has now Resigned/ Oliver Dowden New Deputy PM
 
[Politics latest: Raab bullying report handed
to Number 10 as deputy PM's future
hangs in the balance

Rishi Sunak's spokesperson confirms
the PM received the report this morning
and is 'carefully considering the findings',
but won't offer a timeline for when it
will be published.]


If Sunak lets him stay
some Civil Servants will leave their jobs.

https://news.sky.com/story/politics-...inent-12593360

bots 20-04-2023 12:02 PM

they have to make the report public, so Sunak can't wash it away

Liam- 20-04-2023 12:03 PM

He’ll stick around no matter what the report says, Rishi doesn’t want to look weak to the far right delegation of his party by holding his people accountable for their actions

arista 20-04-2023 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11282566)
they have to make the report public, so Sunak can't wash it away



Yes, it has been reported
it will go public.



Just Sunak and his team
getting the statement ready

arista 20-04-2023 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11282568)
He’ll stick around no matter what the report says, Rishi doesn’t want to look weak to the far right delegation of his party by holding his people accountable for their actions


Well then many Civil Servants
will leave....................................



They can Bugger Off

Kate! 20-04-2023 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11282581)
Well then many Civil Servants
will leave....................................



They can Bugger Off

Yes let them bugger off. 👏

arista 20-04-2023 04:18 PM

10 Downing Street has
said nothing on that report
today.

Beso 20-04-2023 04:23 PM

Rishi, will do exactly what dominic tells him to do. Weak little midget.

bots 20-04-2023 04:28 PM

it's unlikely he is getting sacked. The other guy was fired within minutes of Sunak receiving the report on him

arista 20-04-2023 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11282713)
Rishi, will do exactly what dominic tells him to do. Weak little midget.


But the Report
may say he Broke Parliament Rules


Dom said if that is the case
he will resign



So anytime soon, he could still resign
today.

Unless we find out Tomorrow
Dom is not guilty and that report clears him...............

bots 20-04-2023 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11282716)
But the Report
may say he Broke Parliament Rules


Dom said if that is the case
he will resign



So anytime soon, he could still resign
today.

Unless we find out Tomorrow
Dom is not guilty and that report clears him...............

the only person that decides if he broke parliamentary rules is Sunak, so if Sunak doesn't want to sack him, he won't

arista 20-04-2023 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11282717)
the only person that decides if he broke parliamentary rules is Sunak, so if Sunak doesn't want to sack him, he won't


Of Course


It all down to the Prime Minister Sunak
who has delayed his decision,
which is sneaky.

Cherie 20-04-2023 04:45 PM

Raab said if the report confirmed he was bullying he would resign

arista 20-04-2023 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11282720)
Raab said if the report confirmed he was bullying he would resign


Yes, we must assume this report
does not say he was a Bully

joeysteele 20-04-2023 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11282721)
Yes, we must assume this report
does not say he was a Bully

He's probably looking for any way around sacking him or moving him.

If this had in the main cleared Raab of any bullying intent or in fact bullying..
Then I'd think Sunak would have wanted to rush out and declare that.

He'll be looking at how he can present as best a plausible deceit to avoid the need for any action.

As for Raab resigning, he's now crawled up the backside of now at least 4 Prime Ministers.
This PM.however needs Raab onside with him.

So I think more possibly, how it can be presented as plausible to keep him and take no action is being worked out.
Which will be a continuation of the deceit of former Con PMs.

Johnson dismissed a report such as this on Patel.
I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if Sunak sets out to deceive too.

I still think, had it cleared Raab of anything
They'd both, Sunak and Raab, in a probable 'we told you so line' would likely have been screaming that from the rooftops within a couple of hours of seeing the report.

arista 20-04-2023 05:20 PM

Yes Joey

Keeping the report Secret
for 24hours

Sunak is Sneaky...................

bots 20-04-2023 05:28 PM

i agree with Joey. If Sunak was going to sack Raab, it would have been done within minutes of receiving the report. There is no way he didn't know exactly what was in the report before receiving it and now he is looking at how it can be fudged

If he indeed choses not to sack him when all the evidence suggests he should be gone, then it will be the beginning of the end for Sunak and he wont last until the summer

Book mark this post now :laugh:

joeysteele 20-04-2023 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11282729)
Yes Joey

Keeping the report Secret
for 24hours

Sunak is Sneaky...................

Extremely ..... 'fishy Rishi' indeed in my view.

arista 20-04-2023 10:54 PM

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hijaxers 21-04-2023 05:40 AM

I saw Gina Miller on Piers Morgan's show last night and she said quite a while back she was in a lift with Raab and when the doors opened he said to her I can't decide if you're a bitch or just naive !

MTVN 21-04-2023 06:17 AM

The report is probably very wishy washy and doesn't make a firm conclusion either way

joeysteele 21-04-2023 07:01 AM

'Wishy washy fishy rishi'.

So his capability of making a correct decision for the Country, his governnent and those who have identified themselves as the probable victims, will be to possibly fudge the issue and only set out to protect him and Raab.
No one else.

I kind of hope he refuses to act and if he leaves Raab who was a hopeless Justice secretary before, a disastrous Foreign secretary, again now a useless Justice secretary and an insult to the office of deputy PM.
Then this is an issue which will not go away at all.

bots 21-04-2023 07:05 AM

i think Sunak comes across really badly on this. After his speech about integrity and accountability, if there was even a sniff of bullying, Rabb should have been out on his ass months ago. Also, Sunak will know perfectly well whether Raab is a bully or not, he doesn't need an investigation, so i find the whole thing rather distasteful. He obviously doesn't want to sack him and that's that. Like i said earlier. This is the beginning of the end for Sunak

bots 21-04-2023 08:51 AM

Raab has resigned

arista 21-04-2023 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11282877)
Raab has resigned


Yes that's better


Long Report to be released
next week.

bots 21-04-2023 08:59 AM

In the last few moments, Dominic Raab has resigned from his posts as justice secretary and deputy prime minister.

In his resignation letter, Raab says he feels "duty bound to accept the outcome of the inquiry" - but points out that the report by Adam Tolley KC "dismissed all but two of the claims levelled against me".

We've not seen the report yet, we'll bring it to you when we have it.

"I also believe that its two adverse findings are flawed and set a dangerous precedent for the conduct of good government," Raab writes.


------

No self awareness at all

Crimson Dynamo 21-04-2023 08:59 AM

In a resignation statement posted on Twitter, Mr Raab said: "Whilst I feel duty
bound to accept the outcome of the inquiry, it dismissed all but two of the
claims levelled against me.

"I also believe that its two adverse findings are flawed and set a dangerous
precedent for the conduct of good government."

Mr Raab added: "In setting the threshold for bullying so low, this inquiry has set
a dangerous precedent. It will encourage spurious complaints against
ministers, and have a chilling effect on those driving change on behalf of your

government - and ultimately the British people."

bots 21-04-2023 09:00 AM

it's like a murder accused of 7 murders saying .... i only did 2 of them

joeysteele 21-04-2023 09:00 AM

What took him so long.

I note he says he doesn't believe he's bullied anyone.
Near all bullies say just that.
They call it fun or banter.
Immaterial of how the ones on the receiving end feel.

Good riddance to him.

MTVN 21-04-2023 09:06 AM

I suspect he was a pretty bad boss but I have a bit of sympathy with the concerns over setting the bar for bullying very low, it will make people feel unable to criticise anyone in the workplace

Crimson Dynamo 21-04-2023 09:09 AM

A stitch up tbh

arista 21-04-2023 09:11 AM

"What took him so long."


Making sure all the legal steps are covered

bots 21-04-2023 09:11 AM

i only came across one bully during my career, but he was a manager and he made peoples lives hell. You can voice your displeasure without bullying, it's easy.

Raab is exactly the type to be a bully, he was adamant that he wouldn't resign unless the report proved he was a bully. The report was done by a lawyer with no skin in the game. He is guilty

If the tories win the next election, i bet he is back in the cabinet then

Crimson Dynamo 21-04-2023 09:16 AM

less than 10% of the accusations were upheld

the BLOB at it again

:idc:

bots 21-04-2023 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11282891)
less than 10% of the accusations were upheld

the BLOB at it again

:idc:

if only one accusation is upheld, he is guilty

Crimson Dynamo 21-04-2023 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11282894)
if only one accusation is upheld, he is guilty

guilty of having snowflakes work for him, with a clear agenda

Liam- 21-04-2023 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11282887)
i only came across one bully during my career, but he was a manager and he made peoples lives hell. You can voice your displeasure without bullying, it's easy.

Raab is exactly the type to be a bully, he was adamant that he wouldn't resign unless the report proved he was a bully. The report was done by a lawyer with no skin in the game. He is guilty

If the tories win the next election, i bet he is back in the cabinet then

Wouldn’t be shocked to see him back in some form by the end of the year


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