Labour will change voting age, to 16 once elected
 

Starmer's Master Plan
to stay Elected.


Scotland is doing it.



Sunak Confirmed on The SkyNewsHD
Interview with
kids FYI club.

The Voting age is best at 18


A young lady from a Highgate School
gave a Video question to Sunak.
She wants to vote at 16
as labour will allow it
a right little madam

ridiculous to have children voting

Id raise it to 25

I think 18
is fine

They are young adults at 16. Give them their say.

It's their future to come so I totally support this.

I've heard many times more sense from 15 and 16 year olds than from many, more decades older.

Definitely I agree with this correct plan in my view.

Absolutely right.

You become an adult in the eyes of the law at 16, you can pay taxes at 16, you can decide to join the army at 16, if they’re old enough and responsible enough to make those decisions, then why shouldn’t they vote?

Peoples perspective changes as they get older, does that mean that someone aged 16 shouldn't vote? I don't think 18 is a magical age in terms of human development. It's purely arbitrary

Good. It’s time to reverse the trend of treating young adults like actual children: 16/17-year-olds used to be taken a lot more seriously and have more rights.

You might not fully be an adult at 16 but I agree. Teenagers were never as infantilised as they have been in the last five years.

Let them vote at 16. Of course of they commit a crime, they must be sentenced as adults. And we'll be able to send them into war zones... Unless people think 16 is too young?

If polling suggested those around 16 would more vote Con.
The Cons would probably be screaming for it.

I was fascinated with and involved too as to politics at 16.

I was at 16 planning my then hopeful future.
I would have loved to be able to go and vote for who as a government I wanted to then affect my planned future.

the thing is, once 16 year olds become eligible to vote, it moves from being conjecture to reality in terms of their voting preferences and that rarely works out the way people think it will

No
it's just to keep
Starmer in power

Teenagers weren't a thing till the 1950s. Experience is everything.

Well it doesn't necessarily work that way

Political history had Labour reduce the voting age to 18 for the 1970 general election.
However Labour lost that election.

If Starmer really wanted to do something to stay as PM and lead governnent in power he should adopt PR for future elections.

Because as sure as anyone can be, of the 2 main Parties only Labour at present has anything in common with ALL the other Parties elected to Westminster except for the Cons.

Adopt PR Starmer as voted by over 3 to 1 at the last Labour conference and he'd have the hard-line Cons messing themselves.
That's how he could more make sure he stays in power.

You don't pay taxes at 16 - it's still compulsory to be in full time education, and the minimum wage of 16 years old is too low to be able to earn taxes. You can join the army at 16 but only with parental consent, and you won't see any kind of front line.
If you're gonna make a point, at least use correct examples :joker:

Sure Joey
there are PR options.
Until now Starmer, standing clear
of change in that way.

Scottish Conservative would rather have
Labour in Lead Power.
Then the well "Dodgy Money" SNP group.

So all kind of possible changes are fighting ahead

Tbh I always found it weird how you could do other stuff at 16 but not vote ,so this should be interesting.

Thank You, Oliver
for sorting out
Slick Liam

I'm not "sorting out" anyone, both are common misconceptions.

True
But isn't it weird how you can have sex at 16
And run away and get married at Gretna Green without parents permission ,yet can't vote .....It's daft .

Fair Point

16 and older have to pay tax if they earn more than a certain amount, 16 year - 17 year olds are off to college at that age, which isn’t compulsory.

16 year old are also considered legally adult enough to make their own medical decisions for themselves, so they are more than capable of deciding what they want to vote for

I agree it's weird and daft, but it's just the way it is :laugh:

Tbh I think the age of consent should be 18. Not because of my opinion about who should be doing what, but to give more protection to teens from older perves. As ToyBoy said, I think the AoC should be completely reformed, to make ot higher but to add some allowances for people of similar ages.

If they earn more than like a grand a month, which at 16 you'd have to work more than 50 hours :joker: even without the still compulsory full time education, that'd be a stretch. Someone who's 16 is unlikely to be hired for anything which pays more than minimum.

College has to be full time too, for under 18s. But I guess full time might not take the same amount of hours per week as school, and even sixth formers get free study periods.

But either way, they're unlikely to be paying taxes.

Exactly
I never understood why age of consent was 16 , I've always said it should be 18 aswell.

.... but not impossible to pay taxes, or NI.
As you say unlikely but that's not impossible.

Say in a family.business if a 16 year old was employed on more than a minimum wage.
They could, a minority likely admittedly, be In a tax range bracket.

Plus the minimum wage is the minumum to be paid, firms CAN pay more than that if they wished to.
I think Liam made a fair point really.

It's not impossible for 16 year olds to be in a tax bracket.

Plus too, as to the armed services.
They won't, no way be on the front lines
However, they won't be just making coffee or tea.
They'll be being TRAINED for to be potentially engaged in active service in the future.

If they can be trained to do that, then it's ridiculous frankly that they are refused the right to vote.
In my view anyhow.

Bring it on, more youngsters these days are moving to the right. Wokeness is destroying the left. Most people don't want any part of it. Then take the Muslim community and most Asian communities, which are Conservative communities.

That would be the exception rather than the rule.

I'm not even arguing that 16 year olds shouldn't vote, but I am saying that people's arguments should be factually correct :joker:

If it's an exemption rather than the rule though.
The fact it's an exemption shows it's not impossible .
So I'm just saying Liam has a point.
You are too really as you indicate it isn't impossible too.

I'm pleased you're another who seem to think it maybe right to have a vote at 16.
I have for a good while now.
I'd have loved to be able to vote when I was 16.
My Father got me really interested in politics from me turning 13 in 2005.
At 16 then onwards it was something I followed constantly.

So anyhow I hope this gets the chance to happen.
The younger generation surely cannot make things any worse than what the current generations have in voting in elections.

I really think that if your mum still washes your underwear you should not be anywhere near a polling station

If your argument for allowing all under-18s to vote is that the minority of them can pay taxes, under relatively rare circumstances ... the naysayers' response will be "fine, people under 18 can vote, as long as they're taxpayers."

Honestly I find "because it's a democracy, duh lol" or "sixteen year olds will have longer to live with the consequences lolol oldies be dying" to be stronger and more respectable attempts than talking about tax payers, and they're pretty low-efforted :laugh:

If a change that big is to be made, it should be for bulletproof and unconditional reasons.

The kind of sixteen year old who's likely to be in the position to be paying taxes is more likely to come from a Conservative background and vote accordingly; if they're the only under-18s who can vote, it might not go the way Sir Kier expects!

"it might not go the way Sir Kier expects!"


Very Possible
But they have been out of power for a long time
Picking Corbyn wasted years.

So Labour only have their selves to blame.



Starmer is Keeping Brexit
and improving trade
to help him get the voters back.

So Many Dumped Labour
in 2019.


Good on Labour Voters Back Our Brexit

Well that's not my argument at all so how you've arrived at that is a surprise.

If it was impossible in any scenario for anyone of 16 to pay tax.
I'd still be advocating those aged 16 should have the vote.

It's not an issue for me whether they'd vote Labour, Con or any other Party.
I simply support giving votes to those aged 16 as a right.

Kier Starmer, the guy who gained his knighthood by turning a blind eye to the most prolific sex offender in the country, Jimmy Saville. Had he have taken the correct action against Saville, his career would have gone downhill, no doubt. He's a guy that chose his career and hunger for power over principle, doing what's right and protecting the victims of Jimmy Saville.

Shame on who ever votes to put him in charge. You'd have to have zero morals to do so.

Boris, Truss and Sunak are so morally upstanding

Is this your defense of the man who failed to prosecute Jimmy Saville and allowed him to go on raping women and children, simply so his career could progress?