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Will. 05-11-2023 08:12 PM

Jenkins/olivia/tom and Chanel are racist?
 
I’m sorry but it just completely feels like they all might be racist?

The comments towards them are really questionable

jones89 05-11-2023 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Will. (Post 11373613)
I’m sorry but it just completely feels like there all a bunch of racist bullies

The comments are vile they are making

It feels like or there’s proof that they are? :conf:

Mystic Mock 05-11-2023 08:14 PM

What have they been saying?

Ray. 05-11-2023 08:15 PM

I think it says something more about your world views that you automatically reduce it down to being about race when there's no evidence whatsoever.

Benjamin 05-11-2023 08:16 PM

they’re awful but I haven’t heard them say anything racist?

Beso 05-11-2023 08:17 PM

Sounds like something Trish would say to make a hm look bad.

Lostie! 05-11-2023 08:18 PM

I mean, Tom pulling the aggressive card on Trish tonight felt icky

Denver 05-11-2023 08:19 PM

Chanelle is pro isreal

Ithinkiloveyoutoo 05-11-2023 08:19 PM

Unconscious racism? I thought about it.

Denver 05-11-2023 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Lostie! (Post 11373651)
I mean, Tom pulling the aggressive card on Trish tonight felt icky

Yea, she couldn't have said it calmer if she tried.

Had it been a white girl they would not be labelled aggressive

Ithinkiloveyoutoo 05-11-2023 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11373656)
Chanelle is pro isreal

It's possible to be pro Jew and anti black Lmao.

Will. 05-11-2023 08:20 PM

When Kerry was shouting her head off it was fine.

When it was Trish who was barley shouting Tom drops the “you’re being aggressive”

Olivia saying “dangerous pair”

Stu 05-11-2023 08:21 PM

Not sure if it's racist but Tom calling out the aggression is a good shout. Seems like really desperate framing. I fear for the bloke if he's ever met with actual aggression.

Saph 05-11-2023 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11373656)
Chanelle is pro isreal

Doubt she even knows what Israel is

Mystic Mock 05-11-2023 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Lostie! (Post 11373651)
I mean, Tom pulling the aggressive card on Trish tonight felt icky

That is admittedly a bit dodgy.

Mystic Mock 05-11-2023 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11373656)
Chanelle is pro isreal

Tbh you can't win either way in that situation.

Pro-Israel: "You're Islamophobic."

Pro-Palestine: "You're Anti-Semitic."

Have mixed feelings on the topic: "You're just sitting on the fence."

Ray. 05-11-2023 08:31 PM

I thought Tom was making the aggressive comment in regards to Trish making a dismissive, 'handwavey' remark towards Chanelle for booking it. Aggressive obviously doesn't have to solely mean raising your voice. It can depend on tone and context. When people talk of aggressive negotiation, it doesn't always mean that both parties are lurching across the table and screaming in each other's faces lol. In context, 'aggressive' clearly meant rude and dismissive. And Olivia's remark about being dangerous was obviously in reference to Noky and Trish's good standing in the house and her perception of them as being gameplayers. Do some of you think she meant they're secretly carrying shivs or something?! Com on already.

Btw, to be totally fair here (and also to cover all the bases), Chanelle leaving the table so abruptly was itself incredibly dismissive and whatnot, but Chanelle's on Tom's side, so of course he's going to make allowances for her where he wouldn't with someone he sees as an enemy. Both sides of the house are always doing this.

Swan 05-11-2023 08:32 PM

Never a hint or claim from Trish and Noky thinking others might be racist in the house, but all the whites in this thread calling it. Brilliant.

Denver 05-11-2023 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Swan (Post 11373722)
Never a hint or claim from Trish and Noky thinking others might be racist in the house, but all the whites in this thread calling it. Brilliant.

Nice that you just assume we are all white

Lostie! 05-11-2023 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swan (Post 11373722)
Never a hint or claim from Trish and Noky thinking others might be racist in the house, but all the whites in this thread calling it. Brilliant.

Who are "all the whites"?

Denver 05-11-2023 08:37 PM

Also why wasn't Olivia branded aggressive for multiple attacks on the Chinese woman

Oliver_W 05-11-2023 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swan (Post 11373722)
Never a hint or claim from Trish and Noky thinking others might be racist in the house, but all the whites in this thread calling it. Brilliant.

I wonder how often people (in general) think they're being disliked for their census traits.

Spoiler:



Like, a female friend of mine's bf once disliked me scarily strongly, and it didn't occur to any of us (least of all me) it was homophobia. But when she asked him about it, it turned out "because he's gay", which sounds ridiculous coming from anyone under like 60 :joker:
(they didn't last long. not because of that specifically, but it didn't help)

Beso 05-11-2023 08:38 PM

Chanelle has openly admitted she doesnt do conflict, Trish was ready to shout in her face and put her down in front of everyone whilst knowing this, until Tom stopped her.

And she calls people bullies, shes got a bloody nerve.

Oliver_W 05-11-2023 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11373748)
Also why wasn't Olivia branded aggressive for multiple attacks on the Chinese woman

Can't even be bothered to remember or ascertain her name, that's a microaggression :nono:

Beastie 05-11-2023 08:38 PM

Kerry has been the most aggressive one in there. Even after Dylan and Trish's spat.

Swan 05-11-2023 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11373742)
Nice that you just assume we are all white

I know you're white.

Also, hands up who is white, and think they know better about the racism than the 2 black women in the house?!

Will. 05-11-2023 08:42 PM

I’m not white

Swan 05-11-2023 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Will. (Post 11373766)
I’m not white

So, Trish and Noky have never hinted at racism in the house, but you know better than the 2 black women in there? Ok then.

jones89 05-11-2023 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swan (Post 11373772)
So, Trish and Noky have never hinted at racism in the house, but you know better than the 2 black women in there? Ok then.

Welcome to Big Brother post 2020… heaven forbid you dislike someone who’s black.. can’t possibly be their personality must be racism

Beastie 05-11-2023 08:51 PM

Trish in the firing line again... Her voting last. Why didn't Yinrun just keep with putting herself up? Yinrun speech was bollocks because she nominated Jenkin in the end.

Denver 05-11-2023 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swan (Post 11373757)
I know you're white.

Also, hands up who is white, and think they know better about the racism than the 2 black women in the house?!

I'm actually mixed race but thank you fro showing everyone how bigoted you are towards people of colour

Denver 05-11-2023 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11373753)
Can't even be bothered to remember or ascertain her name, that's a microaggression :nono:

No it's to prove a point, white woman no aggression black woman super aggressive

Mystic Mock 05-11-2023 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11373751)
I wonder how often people (in general) think they're being disliked for their census traits.

Spoiler:



Like, a female friend of mine's bf once disliked me scarily strongly, and it didn't occur to any of us (least of all me) it was homophobia. But when she asked him about it, it turned out "because he's gay", which sounds ridiculous coming from anyone under like 60 :joker:
(they didn't last long. not because of that specifically, but it didn't help)

He disliked you because of your sexuality?:laugh:

Judgmental people like that can be fascinating to talk to, but ultimately they do piss me off when they dislike people for such petty reasons.

Swan 05-11-2023 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11373821)
I'm actually mixed race but thank you fro showing everyone how bigoted you are towards people of colour

Lol, ok ageist.

Denver 05-11-2023 09:00 PM

Old people are more likely to be racist

Swan 05-11-2023 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11373877)
Old people are more likely to be racist

And you base this on?

By all means feel free to share any research you might have conducted.

Mystic Mock 05-11-2023 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swan (Post 11373757)
I know you're white.

Also, hands up who is white, and think they know better about the racism than the 2 black women in the house?!

I'm white and I know all.

But seriously I don't 100% know in this case, but the one saying that Trish was being "aggressive" is playing into a very negative stereotype of black women in society.

I mean maybe Trish was being aggressive, but even I know that a lot of racists do love to use that line whenever a black person gets upset about something.

So it leaves me suspicious.

Swan 05-11-2023 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11373894)
I'm white and I know all.

But seriously I don't 100% know in this case, but the one saying that Trish was being "aggressive" is playing into a very negative stereotype of black women in society.

I mean maybe Trish was being aggressive, but even I know that a lot of racists do love to use that line whenever a black person gets upset about something.

So it leaves me suspicious.

Nah it's crap Mock, people speculating HM's are racist towards Trish and Noky in the house, yet neither of them have ever mentioned it. It's always the same, people looking for racism when it isn't there. And just a massive insult to the black women in the house with idiots in this thread think they need to defend and victimise strong, and independent women of colour.

Mystic Mock 05-11-2023 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jones89 (Post 11373782)
Welcome to Big Brother post 2020… heaven forbid you dislike someone who’s black.. can’t possibly be their personality must be racism

That admittedly can be an issue in other forms of entertainment.

I mean the arrogance from Hollywood when they told the Egyptian Government that they're "racist" for not wanting an "historically accurate" version of Cleopatra being black (when she wasn't black) was absolutely astonishing in so many ways.

The arrogance and delusion was incredible from that Netflix team, I seriously hope that Trish and Noky fans are not that far gone.

Denver 05-11-2023 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swan (Post 11373882)
And you base this on?

By all means feel free to share any research you might have conducted.

Just look around the forum


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