Why does Noky not fit in either group
 

She seems so nice and genuine and beautiful ....is it her beauty that makes people keep her at arms lengths, even Yinrun has had a gossip about her ...

I think originally she nailed her flag to the wrong group who seemed to look down at her a bit (a bit of inverted snobbery at play imo certainly from Paul) I think by the time she realised that that group didn't like her that much, the others had already made their bonds, luckily Trish has kind of taken her under her wing. I think she's just a reserved person in general, could be from spending time on those beauty pageant circuits where you have to watch what you say and be very mannerly etc

I’ve always felt that Olivia was threatened by Noky’s ‘natural’ beauty tbh


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Exactly . All of the above


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…she did say that she didn’t do ‘the group thing’…that being part of a group isn’t a dynamic she’s comfortable with…the she prefers to just spend time with individuals etc…which also leaves her having a vulnerability as well by nature…but I admire her for that, that she hasn’t wavered in that even though that’s what the house has become…a group environment….

Because she is up her own arse and thinks she is something special.

She is something special, compared to that mob in there

To my mind it's because she's levelheaded and not impulsively tribalistic like so many people tend to be.

Because of her personality tbh

Noky really care of what the public might think, sometimes it takes priority over her own feelings. Thats why, she rarely show her vulnerabilities / flaws. She always want to look perfect & watch what she says / do

If you meet a stranger like that, who always consider what they say / do in front of you. You would assume either that person doesnt like you / fake like what the other HMs are saying in the early days tbh

But once you get to know her, people will get past that.. since they know its just part of who she is

Indeed

I've never been able to take to Noky.
There's something fails to ring true from her to me.

I wouldn't know where anyone really stood with her.
Maybe most of them in there don't either.
Hence her like floating around the outside mainly.

…I agree with a lot of what you say, Raxton…I always think as well that she seems quite a self disciplined person and I’m aware thats said to be a huge trait that is learned through pageant life …so I think there’s that as well…that, that might appear to be thought of as being more ‘detached’, you know…

I think because she hasn't picked a side nobody will fully accept her because she is a loose cannon and could throw anyone under the bus nomination wise. She is the unknown.

that's an interesting take, I also wonder if inside Noky is a very insecure but also superficial person

She's either sobbing about something or obsessively trying to use intuition to incorrectly guess what other housemates may or may not feel visa vis the situation in the house.

If there is a fake housemate in the house, then for me it's her.. sorry Noky fans

She has probably avoided being in gangs/groups all her life. So this is just the norm for her wherever she is

For me, I think noky has no real interest in any of them
She is on the show to get noticed for more television work

Noky can align herself to either group, and both groups have shown they accept her. It is Noky who chooses to keep others at arm’s length, and to keep fairly superficial relationships with all of them.

Although she willingly aligned herself to Trish’s group when the need arose for her. I think Noky does what serves her best at the time.

…I think that maybe she spends time with specific people in a group, rather than in a group, if that makes sense…when something was said and she was ‘grouped together’ with Trish, she made a point a point of saying…similar words to she and Trish not spending that much time together or sum such similar thing…

I agree

I do think she emits a sense of superiority around others, but I would imagine the world of beauty contests is a pretty competitive and superficial one, where people gain their self-worth from the image they portray, and from being regarded as the best - it’s the sort of environment where everyone is there very much as an individual and for themselves, rather than to belong to a group.

I'm not saying this is a direct comparison, but something about her reminds me of the theatre kids I used to work with. A lot of them were very stereotypically Theatre Kid(tm) times, and there was a bit of a front going on, if that makes sense. They weren't being maliciously false, but there were some (especially those to whom that kind of mannerism didn't necessarily come naturally) who came off as fake.

I don't know much about the beauty pageant world, but I'd bet it's at least broadly similar.

That's the vibe I get from Noky, anyway.

Yeah, exactly what i meant by that. It's probably a type of protection or front that people involved in stuff like that have to put up around themselves, it's probably hard to separate your real self from that performing side after a while

In short... Choice.

She chose to play a specific game. To keep everyone at arm's length, not get too close, and try to stay on good terms with both. This led to both sides not trusting her.

I like her a lot but I can't deny she is in there to play to win and that she uses and plays others in the game to that end.

She's had it one of toughest in there , I think because she wasn't in a specific group ....and floated around. In BB people get too paranoid ,and it seems you have to pick a side . And she picked the wrong side with Paul's group. I think even now she's still trying to be everyone's friend. But yeah she is a nice person.

I think she initially gravitated towards the younger housemates because they're a similar age and she's quite playful and energetic like they are. I'm not sure they fully accepted her though because they felt intimidated by her intelligence. At the same time it's worth remembering that Henry and Jordan were a bit cliquey early on and basically joined at the hip so maybe she didn't feel that comfortable spending a lot of time with them. It even took a while for Matty to really start talking to them. Noky also got on with Trish but it was a bit of a big sister relationship (Trish is a fair few years older after all) so they weren't super close. She obviously always trusted Trish the most though. I also think it's not really in her nature to be factional and get really invested in the 'divide' - I mean of all the housemates in there I think she's the one who has bitched about other people the least. Some people are apparently suspicious of that.

So yeah I think it's a combination of circumstance, maybe spending time with the wrong people early on, and just her personality that's meant she's sadly been pretty isolated in there

She's a floater, but that's ok. So is Matty.

I feel exactly the same…

She's not opening up. Complete opposite of Trish who I think is amazing.

How can you say Noky hasn't opened up after the week both her & Trish have had , that's confusing to me .

Even when she didn't see her sister, you could see she was emotional :shrug: .

She's a fence sitter. Nice person, but I find her boring.

Jordan & Henry sat on their arses nodding ....when Olivia and her group slagged Trish & Noky off , I'm pretty sure there's a few " fence sitting" going on . Matty was trying to be everyone's friend, but he atleast disagrees with Jenkin etc .

Chanelle use to act like she was playing both sides of the fence , but she's just 2 faced and bitter now.

Yes, Matty does the same. Noki is definitely not the only one.
But Henry and Jordan make me smile.

My guess would be her fragility (not in a negative way)/heart on her sleeve side contradicting her switching to a hard exterior probably didn't mix very well with the HMs in the beginning and it left a lasting impression. If I remember correctly, she was a bit of a mess at points. Her ability to then switch her emotions off and hitch to other people's ride afterwards and play nice with the group probably has not helped either. That has led to accusations of her being super fake.

Individually she is a fantastic person. In a group setting, she is more awkward. She is highly self-aware and it makes it very difficult to keep in with the group if she's bouncing between dissociating her feelings to cope in an intense environment and having to deal with her emotions in response to others and to also keep others in check.

She stuck all her eggs in one basket with Zak. But he left.

Yeah . True enough


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Tonight proved Noky can't win ,Henry & Yinrun just come across as fake to me now :bored: .

Jenkin was bringing up the toilet being blocked again, it's not funny. He's the one who poos himself and leaves the toilet in a mess for others to find . Yet he's scape goating Noky ,as he sees her as a easy target.

We seen every angle of each housemate. Noky we still dont know the other noky. Off camera noky because she is giving us pagent noky 24.7.

Jordan and henry will never defend anyone except each other.

Agree with you here. We know both the good and bad points of the other housemates, but we seem to only know the very surface level of Noky.