Doctor Who - 2023 Specials
 

Tonight's episode was soool good :D

it was a bit woke, but better than recent offerings

Meh, the "wokeness" didn't detract from it. Most of RTD's original run might be called "woke", but it was still good.

People only seem to have a problem with wokeness when the product otherwise sucks, nostalgia goggles aside.

It was a bit woke, but I really liked it. Good to see David Tennant back, for a while at least.

How was it woke

There was a part where Doc asked for an aliens pronouns.
Another where Donna and her kid were able to let go of the Meta-Crisis Energy (the stuff which would have killed Donna if she remembered her time with the Doctor) just by ... letting it go? And they said Doc wouldn't understand because he's male-presenting.

That'd be my guess. Neither bit really bothered me tbh. It was clearly tongue in cheek.

Though I'm sure there are plenty of online rants where psychos point out every little detail and tell us why we should be angry.

It was a good episode. Great to see David and Catherine back.

Howling at the bigots on Twitter as well. RTD sure does know how to twist them knickers.

I loved the episode. But only Donna could destroy the new TARDIS within 5 minutes by spilling coffee on the console.

Could see THAT coming as soon as Tenzie handed her the cup :joker:

I wonder if Tardis did it on purpose - she made Doc revert to that form, she took him to that time and place, and then she served coffee to the lady who got fired for spilling coffee onto a computer :joker:
I get the feeling she heard the "one last trip" and thought NOPE!

I know I am in a minority here but I find it absolutely ridiculous when I see them bringing the old Dr Who actors back, some almost 80, a couple over 80, and they're still dressed in their Dr Who clothes from their 70s and 80s Dr Who stints.

We're lead to believe these old Doctors have been taken from the time they were in to 2023. But then they should still look the same. Not look like old men.

I think they should use CGI or Deep Fake in future. To avoid this

https://images.immediate.co.uk/produ...90&fit=700,466

to this.
https://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/wp-con...five-fifth.jpg

A doctor from his time would not age. It's so silly.

It's so good. I'm loving it. And to have David Tennant back!

We've seen Doctors be "alive" for hundreds of years (the show doesn't move in real time) and they wear the same clothes, by and large.

That said, Matt Smith's Doctor completely changed his wardrobe after Amy and Rory left.

To be fair, with The Doctor now canonically being able to regenerate as either male or female, this could be seen as a much more literal turn of phrase.

Though it does seem to overlook poor Jodie and the fact that he was very recently female for several decades (centuries?).

Truuuuueeee, though I'm not sure about how much of Doc's recent past the Meta-Crisis would inform Donna and Rose :laugh:

Hmm, Doc unlearning or outright forgetting lessons learned isn't anything new tbh - even without regenerating :joker: Thirteen's personality wasn't informed or overly changed by being female, and Eleven+Twelve+Missy all have said something which suggests that gender (apparent sex of current incarnation) means a lot less to Time Lords than humans.
So Thirteen probably wouldn't have the womanly wisdom to pass on to Fourten in the first place. But if she DID, Fourten could easily have lost it!

It had black, trans and disabled people

True to be fair, they're not so much talking about the experience of being female as the experience of being a Western human female. There's no real reason to assume that aliens who happen to look human have the same gender differences as humans. But then... ... ... it would of course be more accurate for them to say that The Doctor wouldn't understand because they're not human, rather than because they're not female.

I'm sorry, as much as I loved Catherine Tate and David Tennant's return, that story and those aliens were awful. I cringed throughout

I am interested to see if Liam's(was it Liam?) transition into Rose took inspiration from Rose Tyler, so I'm wondering when they get to be a real companion we might see them meeting Rose?

I think she was Jason, but either way it's not good form to refer to transpeople by their deadname.

nope, nothing woke about the show at all :nono:

Something that Doctor Who has done for years so clearly people have not watches it before

Rose won't be full time, they are only around for the specials

that 2nd special was FAB :love:


those Doctor and Donna clones



once again great acting work from David and Catherine

if the 1st special was woke, wasn't bothered by it myself tbh


also La Margolyes was in top form as The Meep :clap1:

It's weird, I say Miriam Margolyes is one of my favourite actors, but I can only name about four things from where I know her :joker: and one of them is a radio drama!

The third ep was the best out of the three of the specials but there were some moments I was like what the hell is going on such as the spice up your life scene....but Neil was brilliant as the toymaker and those puppets/dolls were creepy AF.

The new doctor....I'm already really liking!! David will always be my favourite and I wish he didn't get such a boring ending stuck with Donna for the rest of his life...poor sod....but yeah I'm excited for the future of the show as that third special had some brilliant moments

third special was phenomenal


also

I'm a bit baffled by the plan so far - they did a whole big thing about how he needed to just stay put for a while to get his bearings... but, he kept the Tardis and at the end it's mentioned he's already whizzed people off to New York and... err... Mars. Maybe the idea is just that he won't get involved in any drama? :think:

However...

...they made a whole big deal about how he hasn't stopped since he took off in the Tardis.

...Except it isn't true. He did it TWICE as the 12th Doctor (Capaldi). He spent 24 years on Darillium with River Song, and he spent several decades in Bristol as a University professor guarding Missy's prison. In the second case, you could argue that he was technically "on the clock" guarding The Master, but it seems that not much happened at all in those decades. He was pretty settled teaching at the University. Though I guess he was more or less alone. Still even if you discount that one - with River Song he presumably spent 24 years drinking wine and having Netflix and Chill with his wife? :think: How long is he going to be with Donna on Earth that's longer.

RTD retconning IMO. I don't mind it, necessarily, but it would have been easily enough avoided as a plot hole if they'd just quoted the things that have happened post-River Song (including her death).

gonna watch the xmas special back bit later on before going to bed i guess on Disney

@Soldier Boy

Really enjoyed Dr Who today. Can't wait for the new series.
Loved all the specials as well.

yes also can't wait for the new series


where were Shirley Ballas, Johannes Radebe their cameo's then? i didn't notice them in any of the specials :conf:

The new Dr.Who
was so predictable.

No one getting hurt.

Disney - BBC
now over doing the music backing,
no need.


Pathetic start to a New Doctor.


Also, the new Sonic screwdriver
is now like a Phaser from Star Trek?

I thought it was quite good. Low stakes etc are fine for Christmas.

I'm enjoying the new Dr and his assistant. It works for me!

But the story of how they meet
is terrible.

Do you need Big Orchestra Music Backing.

Before Disney Took over
it had something

This is fairly typical of the Christmas episodes in general though. They're not going to have a dark episode for the Christmas special :laugh:.

Clara

Well yes and no. I guess at the time yes.

Spoiler I guess?

Oh no...