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arista 19-01-2024 01:22 PM

Norfolk village 4 Dead found in a house
 
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/01...5672928901.jpg


[Bodies of Four people 'known to one another'
are found at house in Norfolk village after
police forced entry to home
Police called to Allan Bedford Crescent in
Queen's Hills, Costessey at 7am
Four bodies found inside a property;
police working to formally identify them]

[Forensic investigations are being carried out
at the scene, where photographs show
a white and blue evidence tent erected
outside a property on the estate.
A resident said police were not allowing locals
to leave their homes, BBC News reports.
They said: 'The road has been sealed off
with police tape and you can't get down there.

'I spoke with the officers at the cordon and they
said it was likely to be there for most of the
day but they would not tell me anything more than that.'
A 32-year-old man who lives on a neighbouring street
said he saw the cordon at around 8am.]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ia-estate.html


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-e...rfolk-68032483

Ammi 19-01-2024 02:26 PM

…I know the village, this must be hugely distressing and shocking for the community there…very, very tragic…

arista 19-01-2024 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11409651)
…I know the village, this must be hugely distressing and shocking for the community there…very, very tragic…


Is it Murder?

The Slim Reaper 19-01-2024 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11409667)
Is it Murder?

Are you accusing Ammi?

arista 19-01-2024 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11409668)
Are you accusing Ammi?

No

The Slim Reaper 19-01-2024 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11409669)
No

Has she been completely ruled out as a suspect at this time?

arista 19-01-2024 04:05 PM

Not a suspect, of course.

arista 19-01-2024 04:08 PM

2 Young Girls.
A 45 year old man
A 36 year old woman.
All dead.

Police have Confirmed

bots 19-01-2024 04:16 PM

sounds like murder suicide

Gusto Brunt 19-01-2024 05:21 PM

Horrific.

arista 19-01-2024 07:35 PM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/01...5688951094.jpg



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ies-found.html

arista 19-01-2024 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11409682)
sounds like murder suicide






Yes could be sadly true

Ammi 20-01-2024 07:37 AM

…apparently the father and girls were the ones who permanently lived at the property, the mother was the one visiting…

arista 20-01-2024 10:07 AM

Police have said the Woman
was just visiting.

Ammi 20-01-2024 10:12 AM

…yeah, the girls lived with their father at the address and their mother was visiting is what has been reported…it’s also reported that there was a missing persons report from the property on 14 December…I don’t know if that was the mother who was reported missing…?…

Cherie 20-01-2024 12:14 PM

I feel like the mother has moved out to get some space and has then gone back possible to talk about moving back in but with the Dad moving out and he has gone nuts, again, how can 3 people be killed in such a close community and nobody hears a thing surely there was screaming or shouting

Ammi 20-01-2024 12:50 PM

….hmmmm, the female victim is not confirmed to be the mother of the children…one of the reports has suggested that it’s their aunt…/…the sister of their mother…I’m not sure if that was who was visiting or if the children’s mother was visiting….

Ammi 20-01-2024 12:56 PM

….I can’t imagine the world’s of the loved ones atm…. just completely broken having lost 4 family members and in violent circumstances…

Cherie 20-01-2024 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11409916)
….hmmmm, the female victim is not confirmed to be the mother of the children…one of the reports has suggested that it’s their aunt…/…the sister of their mother…I’m not sure if that was who was visiting or if the children’s mother was visiting….

Oh I had not read that, the mother has not made a statement though which would be a little odd I think

arista 20-01-2024 02:19 PM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/01...5763494057.jpg

arista 20-01-2024 02:21 PM

[Norwich deaths: Police IGNORED 999 call made
by man at home where engineer and his
two young daughters,
aged 12 and seven, were found
dead an hour
later along with woman]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...daughters.html

Cherie 20-01-2024 02:45 PM

for goodness sake, what do police attend these days because if they cant respond to a 999 there is no hope at all

bots 20-01-2024 03:40 PM

it just never ends with the police

arista 20-01-2024 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11409945)
for goodness sake, what do police attend these days because if they cant respond to a 999 there is no hope at all


All Officers at that time
were dealing with other Crimes.


Too much these days
can be the luck of the draw.
Good Cherie

Cherie 20-01-2024 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11409971)
All Officers at that time
were dealing with other Crimes.


Too much these days
can be the luck of the draw.
Good Cherie

sure...but what did he say on the 999 call .... that made them think...aw this is no issue...they had staff an hour later to attend...strange

bots 20-01-2024 10:54 PM

I don't believe for a moment that all resources were busy. By definition, that means that they didn't have or couldn't call upon a single police officer in the entire force to attend, which is obviously complete nonsense

arista 21-01-2024 12:43 AM

We will find out
as the 999 call is being sent to to watchdog, as well.

Ammi 21-01-2024 07:43 AM

…still no naming of the female victim so I’m presuming that her family/next of kin haven’t yet been informed…this is just so concerning and scary because the health service/mental health services are stretched and struggling also…


It remains unclear what the nature of the 999 call was.



Last June Norfolk police announced plans for a new policy - to come into force by the end of the year - where officers would only attend emergency calls where a crime had been committed or where there is an immediate threat to life.

One in five 999 and 101 calls to police in Norfolk relate to people with mental health issues.

Under the scheme – known as Right Care, Right Person – police would continue to attend call-outs if there is a person at risk of serious harm.

But officers would not attend medical calls where a healthcare professional was more appropriate.

Responding at the time, Zoe Billingham, chairman of the Norfolk and Suffolk NHS Foundation Trust (NSFT), said: “It is absolutely right that people in mental health crises do need to be cared for in a health setting, but it has always been the job of the police to be the first responder.”

The IOPC investigation over the non-deployment is likely to centre on the nature and content of the 999 call and the decisions made in the police control room.



…the police make a decision not to attend but who does attend as first responders in crisis’, then…and how quickly is that response, if any…

bots 21-01-2024 08:59 AM

What they are doing is putting the decision on what incident deserves a response on the most junior qualified to assess it. It's so obvious whats going to happen here, some low paid soul is going to get the blame

Ammi 21-01-2024 09:18 AM

…blame in itself, though..is indicative of an incident already have taken place and then there is no question of police involvement…so what has been achieved, it’s a flawed policy from the off, isn’t it…the policies have surely always been about prevention because for any of those ‘decision makers’ and policy makers…the cost to the system’s resources would be far greater after the effect, which is what is being said…’once a crime is committed’…and in this case, four lives are no more…the system is broken and failing because public services don’t seem to be working together and also working on low staffing, is how it looks… hanged are what need to be looked at, not blame…as blame won’t change anything…

arista 21-01-2024 09:24 AM

The 999 Call was at 6AM

The Police arrived there after 7AM

Ammi 21-01-2024 09:27 AM

…with the recent tragic deaths of Kenneth and Bronson’s Battersby it was said that the healthcare/social services couldn’t access the home, police intervention was needed as the ones who had the authority to request access…but in this case a police force is saying that healthcare officials are the ‘appropriate and correct’ call out…when they can’t gain an access that could make a life or death difference to an outcome…?…

Ammi 21-01-2024 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11410106)
The 999 Call was at 6AM

The Police arrived there after 7AM

…an emergency call that took one hour to attend…one hour in a crisis situation is enough time for four lives to be lost, as we see…but it’s the policy that’s flawed because there isn’t a focus on prevention so far as we’re seeing…

arista 21-01-2024 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11410110)
…an emergency call that took one hour to attend…one hour in a crisis situation is enough time for four lives to be lost, as we see…but it’s the policy that’s flawed because there isn’t a focus on prevention so far as we’re seeing…


Yes The Evil Dad Killed his Children
the woman and himself.

Cherie 21-01-2024 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11410114)
Yes The Evil Dad Killed his Children
the woman and himself.

A concerned neighbour made the later call, so it seems to be it is possible all were alive when the first 999 call was made?

arista 21-01-2024 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11410119)
A concerned neighbour made the later call, so it seems to be it is possible all were alive when the first 999 call was made?

Yes.


The Watchdog will look at that,

Cherie 21-01-2024 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11410123)
Yes.


The Watchdog will look at that,

Bit late, its just a box ticking exercise referring themselves to the Watchdog.

Someone needs to take accountability and face consequences

arista 21-01-2024 10:59 AM

It's all they can do.

Cherie 21-01-2024 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11410128)
It's all they can do.


its too easy...ooops! over to the watchdog...and we literally never hear the outcomes... or if we do the findings are so inane its hardly worth listening to

bots 21-01-2024 11:44 AM

there is obviously a fundamental problem with funding. The thing is, the huge vast majority would want emergency services that responds to critical incidents in a timely manner. Budget cuts are just not acceptable


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