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UserSince2005 05-07-2024 05:47 PM

Jess Phillips Berated at Acceptance Speech
 
by an angry mob of extremists.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art....html#comments

What is this country coming to?

Predictions for the year of the civil war?

Cherie 05-07-2024 06:10 PM

Not very nice, she was elected by the people and they should have respected that

Cherie 05-07-2024 06:11 PM

I enjoyed her getting them kicked out though :hee:

Liam- 05-07-2024 06:19 PM

It seems a tad bit nonsensical to be that hostile towards one of the handful of shadow cabinet members who resigned because they voted for a ceasefire, if your whole platform is based on wanting a ceasefire.

The independent she beat turned out to be a misogynist and homophobe anyway, so seeing his supporters behave that way is not all that surprising.

I’m not a massive fan of Phillips personally, but she did some wonderful work for domestic abuse and rape victims, glad she kept her seat against a very obvious opportunist

bots 05-07-2024 06:45 PM

I'm no fan of Jess either, but what her and her team had to put up with during the election was completely unacceptable. It was the women in her team that were targeted. One had her tyres slashed and others were followed by groups of men who shouted and swore at them. Pure intimidation. This was George Galloway's party btw, why wasn't he confronted about this.

Apparently the tory candidate came to her support which is nice to hear too

Crimson Dynamo 05-07-2024 06:52 PM

It's going to happen more and more

UserSince2005 05-07-2024 07:02 PM

I saw a tiktok a few weeks back by 2 nasty asian girls shouting at Jess as she walked through a park. Jess was trying to defend herself and they just kept going. Shes lucky to be alive.

Livia 05-07-2024 07:28 PM

Interesting to see how well Reform did there...

Beso 05-07-2024 10:24 PM

2027

Mystic Mock 06-07-2024 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11473293)
I'm no fan of Jess either, but what her and her team had to put up with during the election was completely unacceptable. It was the women in her team that were targeted. One had her tyres slashed and others were followed by groups of men who shouted and swore at them. Pure intimidation. This was George Galloway's party btw, why wasn't he confronted about this.

Apparently the tory candidate came to her support which is nice to hear too

Are Misogynists and Incels latching onto the pro-Palestine movement?

arista 06-07-2024 01:43 AM

Yes,
an angry bunch of Muslim Men (No Women with them)
I watched it Live.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07...0171621321.jpg
Just before she spoke.

Oliver_W 06-07-2024 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11473422)
Are Misogynists and Incels latching onto the pro-Palestine movement?

Looking at the person leading the hated against Phillips, it's a fair bet he's involuntarily celibate.
https://s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/s...64e4760877.jpg

And his religion words are indicative of misogyny.

The Slim Reaper 06-07-2024 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11473422)
Are Misogynists and Incels latching onto the pro-Palestine movement?

No. 2 groups who pretty much exclusively identify with more right wing politics (along varying degrees), so are way more likely to identify with Israel, against the dirty brown people.


Phillips being heckled has nothing to do with misogyny, it's about her stance on Palestine (although I don't doubt there are some that blur that line). Instead of acting as though she is about to unleash unholy retribution on her constituents, maybe she should start by asking why there was a campaign to oust her in the first place, when there never has been previously. Are the same people who voted in a woman in past years, suddenly now realising they hate women?

Same as Streeting, who also is dripping with entitlement for reverence.

Oliver_W 06-07-2024 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11473501)

Phillips being heckled has nothing to do with misogyny, it's about her stance on Palestine

Relating to her calls to support a ceasefire?

The Slim Reaper 06-07-2024 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11473514)
Relating to her calls to support a ceasefire?

More likely relating to her claims that criticism of Israel is anti Semitism.

Oliver_W 06-07-2024 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11473517)
More likely relating to her claims that criticism of Israel is anti Semitism.

And that justifies the harrassment she and her team faced from the inbred guy and his gang?

The Slim Reaper 06-07-2024 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11473519)
And that justifies the harrassment she and her team faced from the inbred guy and his gang?

What are you classifying as harassment?

Cherie 06-07-2024 11:57 AM

Heckling politicians is fine, not on election night though, they have been elected by the public, what they did is not okay, I would imagine if the roles were reversed and the Indy got in no one would be saying it was okay not to listen politely to his acceptance speech, in fact they would probably be called racists, you have to accept democracy...

The Slim Reaper 06-07-2024 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11473524)
Heckling politicians is fine, not on election night though, they have been elected by the public, what they did is not okay, I would imagine if the roles were reversed and the Indy got in no one would be saying it was okay not to listen politely to his acceptance speech, in fact they would probably be called racists, you have to accept democracy...

Protest is democracy.

Cherie 06-07-2024 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11473526)
Protest is democracy.

I dont believe what they were doing was protesting, they were pig sick their candidate lost and showed little respect for democracy

Gusto Brunt 06-07-2024 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11473295)
It's going to happen more and more

I couldn't believe it when Jonathan Ashworth was booted out by a Palestinian pro candidate, now the MP.

Insane how that could ever be a big issue to kick out a British MP.

Totally crazy. I felt so sorry for Ashworth. He'd worked his socks off during the campaign.

Crimson Dynamo 06-07-2024 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11473526)
Protest is democracy.

angry men shouting abuse at a woman, slashing car tyres and general intimidation isn't protest

its aggression, intimidation, criminal damage

Ironically its labour and its failed multicultural experiment that is the root cause

and its only going to get worse

Oliver_W 06-07-2024 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11473521)
What are you classifying as harassment?

Being filmed and berated in the streets, having tires slashed, needing police presence at the count.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4ng3j1pnpqo

Oliver_W 06-07-2024 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt (Post 11473529)
I couldn't believe it when Jonathan Ashworth was booted out by a Palestinian pro candidate, now the MP.

Insane how that could ever be a big issue to kick out a British MP.

Totally crazy. I felt so sorry for Ashworth. He'd worked his socks off during the campaign.

Conflicts several thousand miles away are more important than domestic issues. Didn't you get that memo?

Cherie 06-07-2024 12:08 PM

Two re-elected female MPs have relayed in sober victory speeches the intimidation and harassment they faced during the general election campaign.

Jess Phillips spoke of party workers being filmed in the street and making regular calls to police, while Shabana Mahmood said masked men had disrupted a community meeting, "terrifying" people in attendance.

Labour's Ms Phillips, who was heckled during her speech, said such experiences meant the election had been the worst in which she had stood, with fellow Labour politician Ms Mahmood calling the actions an "assault on democracy itself".

There was a notable police presence during counts in Birmingham where both women were candidates, with the West Midlands force confirming it was investigating several complaints lodged in the run-up to polling day.

While the pair held their city seats, contributing to their party's landslide national victory, each saw their majorities diminish, with Ms Phillips' lead cut to 689 votes.

Both MPs faced competition in their constituencies from candidates who campaigned on pro-Gaza tickets.

Ms Phillips - who last year quit the Labour front bench to vote in Parliament for a Gaza ceasefire - narrowly beat Workers Party candidate Jody McIntyre to hold on to Yardley, while in Ladywood, Ms Mahmood received about 3,000 votes more than second-place independent candidate and lawyer Akhmed Yakoob.

Elsewhere in the city, long-standing Labour MP Khalid Mahmood lost his Perry Barr seat to independent Ayoub Khan who also stood on a pro-Gaza platform - an outcome repeated elsewhere in the country where Labour's vote was similarly squeezed.


After the result was called, amid shouts and boos from onlookers, including chants of "shame on you" and "free Palestine", Ms Phillips said: "I will carry on with my speech. I understand that a strong woman standing up to you is met with such reticence."

She then recounted how during the campaign a community activist went out to canvass with her, but was filmed by people in the street and had her car's tyres slashed.

"A young woman on her own delivering leaflets was filmed and screamed at by a much older man in the street," she said.

Ms Phillips also told the crowd that she was supposed to be joined by the family of slain MP Jo Cox on Thursday, who wanted to campaign with her.

"There is absolutely no way I could have allowed for them to see what was aggressive and violence in our democracy," she said.

She went on to say that the country was "in desperate need and our politics [is] in even greater need of cleaning up and I thank everyone in this room for making a really good spectacle of proving that for me".

She thanked West Midlands Police for taking "constant" phone calls from her.

"It is never acceptable to intimidate and threaten," Shabana Mahmood said

Shabana Mahmood used her speech to relay how she, her family and supporters had been harassed during the election campaign, adding that some people had sought to "deny" her Muslim faith.

As police officers lined the stage as she spoke overnight, Ms Mahmood shared that physical threats had been reported to police, whom she thanked for going "above and beyond to ensure a safe and secure election".

She stated: "A lot will be written about this campaign, and it should be. This was a campaign that was sullied by harassment and intimidation."

She called the behaviour an "assault on democracy itself" and said it was "never acceptable to intimidate and threaten" people.

Baroness Shaista Gohir, who leads the national charity Muslim Women's Network UK, told BBC Radio WM: “I’ve been really concerned observing what has been happening to the female candidates in areas where you have a significant Muslim electorate.

“Men have also experienced abuse, but it was much greater for women - they are seen as easy targets, they have been intimidated, harassed and that’s really concerning.

“It’s almost to try to put them off from politics, it’s also sending a message to women not to get into politics."

Ms Gohir, who is from Birmingham, said: “When the dust settles we have to learn the lessons from this and prevent this from happening again.”

'Decency, respect, kindness'
That point was echoed by Ms Mahmood, who said: "British politics must soon wake up to what happened at this election.

"And let me make this clear because this matters deeply to me and my family: It is never acceptable to deny anyone their faith; to brand them an infidel.

"I know what a Muslim looks like, a Muslim looks like me. I know what Muslim values are and they are British values too - decency, respect, kindness."

A spokesperson for West Midlands Police said a number of police officers were stationed at polling stations across Birmingham on Thursday to "offer reassurance and ensure public safety".

They said: "Our officers are aware of a number of incidents leading up to the election where people have reported criminal damage and harassment, and we are carrying out inquiries to identify those responsible."

None of the major party leaders visited Birmingham during the election campaign - perhaps overnight we found out why.

Tensions boiled never far from the surface at the count, and they threatened to spill over as the results were announced.

There was a sizeable police presence as a series of Labour MPs were loudly heckled during their victory speeches.

Election declarations are noisy affairs, but this was different. At one point the returning officer threatened to have people removed from the venue.

Labour winners pledged to unite their communities and regain trust over the issue of Gaza. That will take serious work.



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It seems you have no issues at all with the above Slim, I find it difficult to believe you have not seen this report before, as long as we ping the word Gaza around everyone is fair game ....let me tell you something, some of these Indys running on Gaza tickets have no interest in Gaza whatsoever

The Slim Reaper 06-07-2024 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11473532)
Being filmed and berated in the streets, having tires slashed, needing police presence at the count.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4ng3j1pnpqo

I've seen some of the videos of her being filmed and berated in the streets, and I don't believe they were. They were asked questions about what them and their party stood for. It's impossible for me to have seen every single video, so maybe I've missed some.

If tyres have been slashed, then that is vandalism, and that is completely unacceptable. Corbyn was punched in the face in 2019, resulting in jail for the perp, and yet there was none of this wailing and crying. No threads about harassment, so I have to wonder what the difference is?

The claims of masked men is easily provable, as everything is filmed these days.

Cherie 06-07-2024 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt (Post 11473529)
I couldn't believe it when Jonathan Ashworth was booted out by a Palestinian pro candidate, now the MP.

Insane how that could ever be a big issue to kick out a British MP.

Totally crazy. I felt so sorry for Ashworth. He'd worked his socks off during the campaign.

Did you see the clip where he was told not to come into the area? that says it all really...

Oliver_W 06-07-2024 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11473541)
Corbyn was punched in the face in 2019, resulting in jail for the perp, and yet there was none of this wailing and crying. No threads about harassment, so I have to wonder what the difference is?

Was he constantly berated and shouted at, and did people shout over his acceptance speech? Harrassment is usually more than one incident.

The Slim Reaper 06-07-2024 12:14 PM


The Slim Reaper 06-07-2024 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11473544)
Was he constantly berated and shouted at, and did people shout over his acceptance speech? Harrassment is usually more than one incident.

Yes.

The Slim Reaper 06-07-2024 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11473539)
It seems you have no issues at all with the above Slim, I find it difficult to believe you have not seen this report before, as long as we ping the word Gaza around everyone is fair game ....let me tell you something, some of these Indys running on Gaza tickets have no interest in Gaza whatsoever

That is them just saying stuff. There is no "police confirm that 12 people have been arrested"

People want to believe the worst because it's about Muslims. If things have actually happened beyond "I feel harassed", then I will say that's definitely wrong, but as things stand, it's people crying about harassment without any evidence to back it up.

I'm no fan of the candidate up against Phillips, but I know she's a dishonest broker, constantly looking for opportunities of self promotion.



She also bragged of aggressively telling Diane Abbott to fcuk off.

Violent rhetoric for me, not for thee.

Cherie 06-07-2024 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11473554)
That is them just saying stuff. There is no "police confirm that 12 people have been arrested"

People want to believe the worst because it's about Muslims. If things have actually happened beyond "I feel harassed", then I will say that's definitely wrong, but as things stand, it's people crying about harassment without any evidence to back it up.

I'm no fan of the candidate up against Phillips, but I know she's a dishonest broker, constantly looking for opportunities of self promotion.



She also bragged of aggressively telling Diane Abbott to fcuk off.

Violent rhetoric for me, not for thee.

so that is two women lying one of whom is a Muslim herself, there is no evidence yet the evidence is there on election night, if they were reported to the police there will be records, I dont put too much store in the police arresting Muslim men because they dont want to appear racist... not sure you can arrest someone for shouting angrily anyway that doesn't make it any less intimidating

Crimson Dynamo 06-07-2024 02:21 PM

“We will continue to fight. Until death, inshallah!”

This is Blackburn on Election night, angry aggressive ranting

Shocking video here: https://x.com/darrengrimes_/status/1809377497508913525

Can you imagine if Nigel Farage did this in Clacton?

:skull:

The Slim Reaper 06-07-2024 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11473589)
so that is two women lying one of whom is a Muslim herself, there is no evidence yet the evidence is there on election night, if they were reported to the police there will be records, I dont put too much store in the police arresting Muslim men because they dont want to appear racist... not sure you can arrest someone for shouting angrily anyway that doesn't make it any less intimidating


So the harassment is shouting loudly? Sorry, but in no world is that harassment.

It's two politicians lying and trying desperately to make themselves the victims to boost their own support imo. The caveat here, is if there is real and actual evidenced harassment against them, then of course that's a real issue.

The fact one of them is Muslim doesn't alter that fact.

Ahh yes, the old, police don't want to appear racist canard. Police are well known to be too reverential of minority groups, but you keep telling on yourself.

The Slim Reaper 06-07-2024 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11473594)
“We will continue to fight. Until death, inshallah!”

This is Blackburn on Election night, angry aggressive ranting

Shocking video here: https://x.com/darrengrimes_/status/1809377497508913525

Can you imagine if Nigel Farage did this in Clacton?

:skull:

https://i.imgflip.com/8w3py0.jpg

Cherie 06-07-2024 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11473598)
So the harassment is shouting loudly? Sorry, but in no world is that harassment.

It's two politicians lying and trying desperately to make themselves the victims to boost their own support imo. The caveat here, is if there is real and actual evidenced harassment against them, then of course that's a real issue.

The fact one of them is Muslim doesn't alter that fact.

Ahh yes, the old, police don't want to appear racist canard. Police are well known to be too reverential of minority groups, but you keep telling on yourself.

well you need to take that up with the Equality commission

Check if what happened is harassment under the Equality Act
The harassment you experienced was discrimination under the Equality Act if both the following apply:

you didn’t want it to happen

you were scared, humiliated or offended - or the person was trying to make you feel that way

as a white male I doubt you have ever been harrassed,


with regard to the Police they have a long record of not taking women seriously hence the large number of women who report stalking and harrassment who are murdered, 60 since 2015

https://www.vice.com/en/article/9kmy...rted-police-uk

Cherie 06-07-2024 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11473594)
“We will continue to fight. Until death, inshallah!”

This is Blackburn on Election night, angry aggressive ranting

Shocking video here: https://x.com/darrengrimes_/status/1809377497508913525

Can you imagine if Nigel Farage did this in Clacton?

:skull:

That gathering looks extremely diverse :laugh:

Will this guy be working for his constituents on local issues or will he just be focussing on Gaza, they will soon get fed up when their local services goes to ****...because this guy cares more about a country in the Middle East (allegedly)

The Slim Reaper 06-07-2024 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11473716)
well you need to take that up with the Equality commission

Check if what happened is harassment under the Equality Act
The harassment you experienced was discrimination under the Equality Act if both the following apply:

you didn’t want it to happen

you were scared, humiliated or offended - or the person was trying to make you feel that way

as a white male I doubt you have ever been harrassed,


with regard to the Police they have a long record of not taking women seriously hence the large number of women who report stalking and harrassment who are murdered, 60 since 2015

https://www.vice.com/en/article/9kmy...rted-police-uk

Thanks for posting that link. When I've pointed out repeatedly in the past that women are in far more danger from men they know than any perceived threat from trans people, I don't remember you agreeing with me :think:

it's all a bit opportunistic.

I also agree there has been an issue with police , either not taking women seriously, or not doing enough to prosecute after the fact, but this is a political campaign.

However those 2 facts do not under any circumstances, mean that a political candidate cannot be shouted at or protested against, because I watched 4 years of Corbyn getting far worse than this on a daily basis.

The Slim Reaper 06-07-2024 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11473720)
That gathering looks extremely diverse :laugh:

Will this guy be working for his constituents on local issues or will he just be focussing on Gaza, they will soon get fed up when their local services goes to ****...because this guy cares more about a country in the Middle East (allegedly)

I agree with the last bit, but it's the same issue Nigel will face. Until they do their jobs, no one knows how they will get on. I hope you've made this point regarding reform MP's, too.

Crimson Dynamo 06-07-2024 05:51 PM

Nigel can't travel on public transport due to violent leftists and Islamists

I doubt any will new Cabinet member can do either due to violent Islamists

And it's only going to get worse as the more emboldened they get following this election

Very worrying times


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