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arista 13-07-2024 02:20 PM

USA : Black Man changes his name to get a job
 
[Michigan man who was offered job
interview after changing his name
on his resumé sues for discrimination]

[He applied with the alias John Jebrowski,
keeping all of his work history and skills
the same, he says he received an interview
call from the management.]

A Lawyer on CNN HD USA on UK TV
said this is now very common.



https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07...0671970264.jpg
[Dwight Jackson, 27, has sued the owners
of Shinola Hotel claiming that they kept
rejecting his resume because he was black]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ola-Hotel.html

Crimson Dynamo 13-07-2024 02:52 PM

Guy sounds like a jerk

Liam- 13-07-2024 03:09 PM

It’s a real, proven thing that companies avoid giving interviews to people with non-white sounding names, hopefully they get sued for a lot of money as punishment for their clear racism

Crimson Dynamo 13-07-2024 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11476689)
It’s a real, proven thing that companies avoid giving interviews to people with non-white sounding names, hopefully they get sued for a lot of money as punishment for their clear racism

Proven by who?

Crimson Dynamo 13-07-2024 03:29 PM

The race and Hispanic origin distribution of the people with the name DWIGHT
is 77.9% White, 2.2% Hispanic origin, 16.3% Black, 1.3% Asian or Pacific
Islander, 1.5% Two or More Races, and 0.7% American Indian or Alaskan
Native.


The race and Hispanic origin distribution of the people with the name JACKSON
is 72.8% White, 3.8% Hispanic origin, 15.1% Black, 5.9% Asian or Pacific
Islander, 1.6% Two or More Races, and 0.7% American Indian or Alaskan
Native.

https://www.mynamestats.com/First-Na...GHT/index.html

Oliver_W 13-07-2024 03:34 PM

Some high profile jobs or even (in the media such as the BBC) low level jobs all but say "straight white men need not apply", neither situation is okay.

Alf 13-07-2024 05:12 PM

Everytime I didn't make it to the interview stage for a job was definitely because I is White.

Oliver_W 13-07-2024 06:52 PM

Not being funny but ... it's only a job in a hotel. Why does he care so much?

Crimson Dynamo 13-07-2024 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11476730)
Not being funny but ... it's only a job in a hotel. Why does he care so much?

he doesn't, he thinks he can sue and make money by not working hard in life, but does not have the intelligence to see why he cant

sad

Ray. 13-07-2024 07:19 PM

Sue, or make money on the college talk/podcast circuit by parading himself as a fake political martyr of some sort.

Oliver_W 13-07-2024 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11476731)
he doesn't, he thinks he can sue and make money by not working hard in life, but does not have the intelligence to see why he cant

sad

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChalkOutlineMan (Post 11476736)
Sue, or make money on the college talk/podcast circuit by parading himself as a fake political martyr of some sort.

There are worse grifts out there tbh.

GiRTh 13-07-2024 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11476692)
The race and Hispanic origin distribution of the people with the name DWIGHT
is 77.9% White, 2.2% Hispanic origin, 16.3% Black, 1.3% Asian or Pacific
Islander, 1.5% Two or More Races, and 0.7% American Indian or Alaskan
Native.


The race and Hispanic origin distribution of the people with the name JACKSON
is 72.8% White, 3.8% Hispanic origin, 15.1% Black, 5.9% Asian or Pacific
Islander, 1.6% Two or More Races, and 0.7% American Indian or Alaskan
Native.

https://www.mynamestats.com/First-Na...GHT/index.html

Using your source, the name Jackson is 53% likely to be black. You're not changing the results to suit you are you?

Quote:

On this basis, the people with the name JACKSON have a higher likelyhood of being Black and a lower likelyhood of being Hispanic origin, White.

https://www.mynamestats.com/Last-Nam...SON/index.html

This happens all the time and even though LT wants proof its not so easy to come by. Using LT's source the name Jackson suggest a black person 53% of the time so LT has confirmed the theory. :thumbs:

GiRTh 13-07-2024 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChalkOutlineMan (Post 11476736)
Sue, or make money on the college talk/podcast circuit by parading himself as a fake political martyr of some sort.

How is he a political martyr. Are you just chatting crap to chat crap? :shrug:

GiRTh 13-07-2024 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11476685)
Guy sounds like a jerk

You seem to make quite negative assumptions. Why?

GiRTh 13-07-2024 08:07 PM

LT used Jackson as a first name and that why the stats were wrong. Very sloppy.

If I were to go thru more of LT's posts would I find further 'inaccuracies'. :shrug:

Beso 13-07-2024 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11476685)
Guy sounds like a jerk

He should have called himself dwight jackoffski.

Crimson Dynamo 13-07-2024 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11476749)
He should have called himself dwight jackoffski.

No wonder noone wants to give him a job!

AnnieK 13-07-2024 08:16 PM

There have been lots of studies on this here un the UK. Making your name sound more Anglo saxons usually get you and interview in less time than you do if you have a foreign sounding name....


https://www.beapplied.com/post/whats...ore%20foreign.
From the article:

UK government, 2012 – an all parliamentary group study found that women from ethnic minorities who “whitened” their names or changed them to sound more Anglo-Saxon had to apply for half as many jobs to receive an interview invitation as those whose names sounded more foreign.

· BBC’s Inside Out London, 2017 – even with a small sample size of two candidates and 100 job opportunities, this study reflected the same pattern of discrimination. While both candidates were equally qualified, “Adam” received 12 interview offers while “Mohamed” was only offered four.

Beso 13-07-2024 08:18 PM

Sorry, but it's how it should be..

Britains first.

GiRTh 13-07-2024 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11476753)
Sorry, but it's how it should be..

Britains first.

:laugh::laugh:

Problem is that its in the USA

GiRTh 13-07-2024 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11476751)
There have been lots of studies on this here un the UK. Making your name sound more Anglo saxons usually get you and interview in less time than you do if you have a foreign sounding name....


https://www.beapplied.com/post/whats...ore%20foreign.
From the article:

UK government, 2012 – an all parliamentary group study found that women from ethnic minorities who “whitened” their names or changed them to sound more Anglo-Saxon had to apply for half as many jobs to receive an interview invitation as those whose names sounded more foreign.

· BBC’s Inside Out London, 2017 – even with a small sample size of two candidates and 100 job opportunities, this study reflected the same pattern of discrimination. While both candidates were equally qualified, “Adam” received 12 interview offers while “Mohamed” was only offered four.

Unfortunately, your sources aren't great and we know how some forum members like to discredit any source that contradicts them. I like that LT's source actually backs up the arguments.

Beso 13-07-2024 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 11476754)
:laugh::laugh:

Problem is that its in the USA

Oh!


Good luck dwight, you are gonna need it.

Crimson Dynamo 13-07-2024 09:01 PM

Yeah itust be the white people at fault. I mean in black or Asian countries I bet white names never get discrimination

:laugh2:

GiRTh 13-07-2024 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11476763)
Yeah itust be the white people at fault. I mean in black or Asian countries I bet white names never get discrimination

:laugh2:

Very defensive.

Are white people being denied opportunities in black and Asian countries? Possibly, probably, who knows. Give us all the proof you have. :thumbs:

Beso 13-07-2024 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 11476765)
Very defensive.

Are white people being denied opportunities in black and Asian countries? Possibly, probably, who knows. Give us all the proof you have. :thumbs:

I've never seen danny Dyer in a Bollywood movie.:smug:

GiRTh 13-07-2024 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11476766)
I've never seen danny Dyer in a Bollywood movie.:smug:

True. :laugh:

Crimson Dynamo 13-07-2024 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 11476765)
Very defensive.

Are white people being denied opportunities in black and Asian countries? Possibly, probably, who knows. Give us all the proof you have. :thumbs:

I'll find some no mark fake suing some company for parity

:joker:

Oliver_W 13-07-2024 09:41 PM

Tbh the name "Dwight" suggests a toothless yokel who lives in a tunnel. Maybe that was the problem?

Mystic Mock 14-07-2024 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11476685)
Guy sounds like a jerk

Tbf, the business in question does appear to be quite racist here.

Mystic Mock 14-07-2024 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11476689)
It’s a real, proven thing that companies avoid giving interviews to people with non-white sounding names, hopefully they get sued for a lot of money as punishment for their clear racism

It's the opposite issue to the DEI/positive discrimination companies.

Will any company just hire on merit?:laugh:

Redway 15-07-2024 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11476685)
Guy sounds like a jerk

Guy sounds like someone who’s experienced institutional racism, something you’ll never understand in this lifetime.

Redway 15-07-2024 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 11476765)
Very defensive.

Are white people being denied opportunities in black and Asian countries? Possibly, probably, who knows. Give us all the proof you have. :thumbs:

Don’t mind this clown.

Redway 15-07-2024 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11476730)
Not being funny but ... it's only a job in a hotel. Why does he care so much?

Why does institutional racism, no matter the context or title of job, hurt so much? Do you people actually hear yourselves?

Oliver_W 15-07-2024 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redway (Post 11477636)
Why does institutional racism, no matter the context or title of job, hurt so much? Do you people actually hear yourselves?

It's never actually okay, be it the BBC excluding white people, or a hotel excluding a black person.

The point I was questioning is ... it's a hotel. Why apply multiple times, including under a fake name?

Mystic Mock 15-07-2024 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redway (Post 11477633)
Guy sounds like someone who’s experienced institutional racism, something you’ll never understand in this lifetime.

You should see this video Redway, the racism is off the chart.


Redway 15-07-2024 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11477656)
It's never actually okay, be it the BBC excluding white people, or a hotel excluding a black person.

The point I was questioning is ... it's a hotel. Why apply multiple times, including under a fake name?

You have this kind of privilege that loves perpetual debate, even when it’s not appropriate. I don’t even know what to say to you to be honest.

Oliver_W 15-07-2024 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redway (Post 11477768)
You have this kind of privilege that loves perpetual debate, even when it’s not appropriate. I don’t even know what to say to you to be honest.

How'd you mean? I was agreeing that all forms of racism are wrong.

Redway 15-07-2024 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11477772)
How'd you mean? I was agreeing that all forms of racism are wrong.

You’re implying that a black man was desperate to get a job because he stuck with the hotel, like that matters at all in the grand scheme of things. I’m sure you have a basic level of “racism is wrong” awareness but your mode of privilege makes you dismiss the extent of other people’s suffering, experiences and determination to prove racial discrimination that they have every right to prove. You might not see it yourself in yourself but it’s very obvious to anyone who’s more aware of the complexities of racism.

Too much assurance in white male privilege, conscious or unconscious, can block you from seeing the full truth and that’s a fact. You’re nowhere near as bad as LT (who deliberately baits and puts a racist narrative on everything involving people of colour) but you do make blunders. You might not be able to see it but that’s kinda the point. Always naively looking for a debate, at whatever cost, no-matter who you subconsciously trample on in the process. It’s very bad.

Crimson Dynamo 15-07-2024 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redway (Post 11477775)
You’re implying that a black man was desperate to get a job because he stuck with the hotel, like that matters at all in the grand scheme of things. I’m sure you have a basic level of “racism is wrong” awareness but your mode of privilege makes you dismiss the extent of other people’s suffering, experiences and determination to prove racial discrimination that they have every right to prove. You might not see it yourself in yourself but it’s very obvious to anyone who’s more aware of the complexities of racism.

Too much assurance in white male privilege, conscious or unconscious, can block you from seeing the full truth and that’s a fact. You’re nowhere near as bad as LT (who deliberately baits and puts a racist narrative on everything involving people of colour) but you do make blunders. You might not be able to see it but that’s kinda the point. Always naively looking for a debate, at whatever cost, no-matter who you subconsciously trample on in the process. It’s very bad.



this whole thread is about a guy putting a racist narrative into the fact he is crap at interviews

:facepalm:

Ammi 15-07-2024 10:05 AM

…this is t at all about interview performance…it’s about a name change that was implemented to a ‘more white sounding name’ which then gave him an interview opportunity with all other details exactly the same as his original application…/hence the discrimination lawsuit that he’s planning or has filed…


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