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arista 27-08-2024 10:11 AM

Darts to bring back the walk on Women Assistants
 
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/other...-wsdt-33541921


Like on Boxing.


Great more Ladies can get work.


It was halted, back in 2019

user104658 27-08-2024 10:19 AM

What happened? Did they discover that not many people want to watch fat bastards drinking beer and throwing darts on telly if its not sugared up with some objectification?

arista 27-08-2024 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Quantum Boy (Post 11499025)
What happened? Did they discover that not many people want to watch fat bastards drinking beer and throwing darts on telly if its not sugared up with some objectification?


It needs the Sparkle back.


This is great, for women to return to their jobs

Beso 27-08-2024 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Quantum Boy (Post 11499025)
What happened? Did they discover that not many people want to watch fat bastards drinking beer and throwing darts on telly if its not sugared up with some objectification?

You're stuck in the 80s

Cherie 27-08-2024 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Quantum Boy (Post 11499025)
What happened? Did they discover that not many people want to watch fat bastards drinking beer and throwing darts on telly if its not sugared up with some objectification?

Darts is not like that any more, its a very highly paid sport :laugh: Surprised at the fat shaming QB :nono:

Nicky91 27-08-2024 12:27 PM

yes pls, bring back walk on queen Hazel O'Sullivan :flutter:

arista 27-08-2024 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 11499040)
yes pls, bring back walk on queen Hazel O'Sullivan :flutter:


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FGAed5fX...jpg&name=small

MTVN 27-08-2024 12:43 PM

Bit of an odd decision really given that darts popularity has only increased in recent years so it's not like cancelling the walk on girls did that any harm

This is only for the seniors tour though it seems, not for any of the main tournaments

user104658 27-08-2024 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11499028)
You're stuck in the 80s

I'm not.

Apparently Darts is, though, or they wouldn't be bringing back "ogling 20 year olds" as an integral part of the sport, would they.

user104658 27-08-2024 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11499042)
This is only for the seniors tour though it seems

:skull: :skull: :skull:

Of COURSE it's for the seniors. FFS :joker: you couldn't make it up. Genuinely repulsive.

user104658 27-08-2024 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11499033)
Darts is not like that any more, its a very highly paid sport :laugh: Surprised at the fat shaming QB :nono:

Where did I say it's not highly paid?

It can be highly popular and very well funded, whilst still being aimed at sad gammons who want to see some boobies before they watch other highly-paid gammons playing a pub sport over the top of their beer tin.

These things are not mutually exclusive.

Alf 27-08-2024 04:39 PM

I'll get me socks ready.

Beso 27-08-2024 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Quantum Boy (Post 11499111)
I'm not.

Apparently Darts is, though, or they wouldn't be bringing back "ogling 20 year olds" as an integral part of the sport, would they.

Oh you are so.

Cherie 27-08-2024 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Quantum Boy (Post 11499113)
Where did I say it's not highly paid?

It can be highly popular and very well funded, whilst still being aimed at sad gammons who want to see some boobies before they watch other highly-paid gammons playing a pub sport over the top of their beer tin.

These things are not mutually exclusive.

Have you always been a snob? :laugh: Enjoying a beer is not the end of the world you know, the Darts crowd seem more into dressing up than drinking though

Alf 27-08-2024 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11499128)
Oh you are so.

Is "gay" the word you're looking for?

Mystic Mock 27-08-2024 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Quantum Boy (Post 11499025)
What happened? Did they discover that not many people want to watch fat bastards drinking beer and throwing darts on telly if its not sugared up with some objectification?

Tbf Luke Littler has made the Sport be more mainstream than ever before.

I don't know what's caused the decision to be reversed tbh.

Mystic Mock 27-08-2024 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Quantum Boy (Post 11499113)
Where did I say it's not highly paid?

It can be highly popular and very well funded, whilst still being aimed at sad gammons who want to see some boobies before they watch other highly-paid gammons playing a pub sport over the top of their beer tin.

These things are not mutually exclusive.

Not all Darts players are Gammons.:joker:

You're being really bad for stereotyping.

thesheriff443 28-08-2024 03:36 AM

As a straight man I have absolutely no problem in saying I find women of all ages attractive

Cherie 28-08-2024 11:33 AM

Apparently the darts ladies are delighted to get their jobs back, they say they bring glamour and fun to the walk on....who am I to argue, if they dont care and they are getting well paid for it, go for it, its a free choice, its not like they are being pimped out

Cherie 28-08-2024 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11499195)
Not all Darts players are Gammons.:joker:

You're being really bad for stereotyping.

QB is one of the worst, but only stereotypes white men, given he is one himself its all rather odd self sabotage

Mystic Mock 28-08-2024 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11499307)
QB is one of the worst, but only stereotypes white men, given he is one himself its all rather odd self sabotage

Tbf to QB, negative stereotypes do exist for a reason, and it's normally because of stuff that's happened in the past within certain communities.

However I do think it's best to avoid such stereotypes in a serious discussion, especially considering we're only talking about women choosing to work in a position where they have to dress in a way that's deemed sexy.

If women don't want the role, they can avoid it.

@Quantum Boy

user104658 29-08-2024 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11499597)
Tbf to QB, negative stereotypes do exist for a reason, and it's normally because of stuff that's happened in the past within certain communities.

However I do think it's best to avoid such stereotypes in a serious discussion, especially considering we're only talking about women choosing to work in a position where they have to dress in a way that's deemed sexy.

If women don't want the role, they can avoid it.

@Quantum Boy

The objectification of women (and if you do want to extend it to Hollywood, men as well) is insidious and damaging and saying that "the ones who don't want to do it can avoid it" is reductive, lacks insight and ultimately IMO comes purely from a place of defensiveness.

I'm stereotyping Darts because instead of leaning into being seen as a more professional/respectable sport, they're choosing to go back to the old ways of trotting half-naked ladies out to "pretty up" their events. Is the sport not engaging enough to stand on its own merits? People are arguing hard that it is. Without then questioning why they're doing this :idc:.

And then it transpired that it's only for the seniors :joker: :skull:. Slimey as ****, I have literally no issue at all with saying that 50+ year old men who want 20 year olds with their boobs out to make the dart more entertaining to them are gross, perving trogs. Straight in the bin. The ones who say "Err we don't need that in our sport thanks, gross" can stay. Where's the stereotyping?

user104658 29-08-2024 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11499307)
QB is one of the worst, but only stereotypes white men, given he is one himself its all rather odd self sabotage

See above Cherie - it's not "stereotyping" to point out that the people who want and are OK with this are slimy old bastards who should be on a leash at all times around women and children. It's not about "everyone".

If Darts doesn't want to be seen as a sport for letching nonces, they probably shouldn't use "young women's boobies" as an advertising boon for their seniors tournaments. JFC.

user104658 29-08-2024 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11499132)
Is "gay" the word you're looking for?

I think it's only you and Parmy on this forum who still think "being gay" is some sort of insult Alf. I'll reiterate as I always do; I'm not gay, I've very happily been in a long-term heterosexual relationship for decades, but I don't find "getting called gay :hehe: " offensive. You're like a wee boy in shorts in the school playground 30 years ago with these insults. And apparently it's me stuck in the 80's :joker:.

Beso 29-08-2024 10:50 AM

@Quantum Boy

Shall we stop the glamorous assistants as well, like rachel or carol from countdown. Shall we stop the glamorous weather girls also? Cause you can class it as girls with their boobs out all you want but that's not what it is at all.. its 2 glamorous ladies, dressed in nice dresses, walking in front of the darts player to lead them onto the stage. They will have a sponsors banner draped over their shoulders. No tits on show, no twerking, and no fanny thrusts either...you shouldnt have a problem with this, you see more on the streets during pride or notting hill where all the gays and black perverts can ogle away without criticism from prudish men.

Cherie 29-08-2024 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Quantum Boy (Post 11499686)
See above Cherie - it's not "stereotyping" to point out that the people who want and are OK with this are slimy old bastards who should be on a leash at all times around women and children. It's not about "everyone".

If Darts doesn't want to be seen as a sport for letching nonces, they probably shouldn't use "young women's boobies" as an advertising boon for their seniors tournaments. JFC.

If you ever watched Darts the walk on girls are dressed very modestly, if women want to do it, not sure what your issue is tbh?

user104658 29-08-2024 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11499696)
@Quantum Boy

Shall we stop the glamorous assistants as well, like rachel or carol from countdown. Shall we stop the glamorous weather girls also? Cause you can class it as girls with their boobs out all you want but that's not what it is at all.. its 2 glamorous ladies, dressed in nice dresses, walking in front of the darts player to lead them onto the stage. They will have a sponsors banner draped over their shoulders. No tits on show, no twerking, and no fanny thrusts either...you shouldnt have a problem with this, you see more on the streets during pride or notting hill where all the gays and black perverts can ogle away without criticism from prudish men.

Buuuullshiiitttt :joker:

Also where on earth have you got the idea that I'm "OK with" the dicks-on-parade nonsense that's completely taken over (and ruined) Pride events?

user104658 29-08-2024 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11499702)
If you ever watched Darts the walk on girls are dressed very modestly, if women want to do it, not sure what your issue is tbh?

Why are they there, Cherie? What is the reason for having them there. Why are they always female. Why are they always young. What does it achieve. Who is it for. If you can answer in any way that isn't "objectification of women, for the eyes of men" I'm all ears. I've seen no reasoning for it being anything but that, and "aww it's not that bad let them do what they want they actually enjoy it and make money!" is not a reasonable substitute as a justification.

Beso 29-08-2024 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Quantum Boy (Post 11499703)
Buuuullshiiitttt :joker:



Also where on earth have you got the idea that I'm "OK with" the dicks-on-parade nonsense that's completely taken over (and ruined) Pride events?

Bet you insist your mrs wears a full burkha when she goes out, cause there is nothing wrong with this look.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...3dd77ecf7e.jpg

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user104658 29-08-2024 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11499707)
Bet you insist your mrs wears a full burkha when she goes out, cause there is nothing wrong with this look.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...3dd77ecf7e.jpg

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There' nothing wrong with the dresses. There's something fundamentally wrong with needlessly exhibiting young women in a sport aimed at middle-aged men. This should not be a hard concept to grasp but I won't pretend why some people "don't get it". Too busy with their hand in their pants watching women young enough to be their daughters drag out the old Darts Farts for literally no reason whatsoever that anyone can give other than that "they're nice for men to look at".

https://i.imgur.com/YovCH3f.jpeg

Can we please stop pretending to not know what we're looking at here? Come on now :joker:. Don't be so f'ing silly.

Niamh. 29-08-2024 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Quantum Boy (Post 11499709)
There' nothing wrong with the dresses. There's something fundamentally wrong with needlessly exhibiting young women in a sport aimed at middle-aged men. This should not be a hard concept to grasp but I won't pretend why some people "don't get it". Too busy with their hand in their pants watching women young enough to be their daughters drag out the old Darts Farts for literally no reason whatsoever that anyone can give other than that "they're nice for men to look at".

https://i.imgur.com/YovCH3f.jpeg

Can we please stop pretending to not know what we're looking at here? Come on now :joker:. Don't be so f'ing silly.

My issue with it in sports in particular is women in sport are already fighting to be taken seriously in sport as it is so i think having women as decorations around the men in a sport makes it even harder for the female competitors to be taken seriously. I'm not going to stop watching the sports because of it (not talking specifically about Darts here as I rarely watch Darts but I suppose UFC/MMA ring girls comes to mind) but I don't love it.

Beso 29-08-2024 11:15 AM

Not everyone sees the world via perverted eyes...its only you who instantly thinks perverted thoughts when you see these ladies.

And to describe it as a middle aged mans sport is ridiculous considering luke littler isnt even 20 yet. Infact I doubt more than 1 of the top ten is over 35.

You are talking about a sport you know sod all about, its love audience will have an average age of 25.

Niamh. 29-08-2024 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11499718)
Not everyone sees the world via perverted eyes...its only you who instantly thinks perverted thoughts when you see these ladies.

And to describe it as a middle aged mans sport is ridiculous considering luke littler isnt even 20 yet. Infact I doubt more than 1 of the top ten is over 35.

You are talking about a sport you know sod all about, its love audience will have an average age of 25.

That's not true

Adult darts fans tend to be older: just 18% are aged 18-34 compared to 27% of the general sports-watching population, while 45% (vs. 40% of sports fans) are over 55

https://business.yougov.com/content/...essional-darts

Beso 29-08-2024 11:24 AM

Over 55s have more time to watch telly than the 20 somethings. The live audience at the events will be predominantly under the age of being middle aged.

user104658 29-08-2024 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11499718)
Not everyone sees the world via perverted eyes...its only you who instantly thinks perverted thoughts when you see these ladies.

I'll just ask what I asked above;

1) Why are they there?

2) Who is it for?

If you can reasonably answer those two things in a way that is at all reaslistic, and doesn't boil down to "to be nice to look at", "for men" then that's the start of a conversation. Until then you're just shouting "no you're wrong!". If I'm wrong give me an alternative, realistic, explanation.

Niamh. 29-08-2024 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11499725)
Over 55s have more time to watch telly than the 20 somethings. The live audience at the events will be predominantly under the age of being middle aged.

How do you know that, is there some stats for that?

Also the stats I posted compared it to other sports so "having more time to watch telly" doesn't explain it away

user104658 29-08-2024 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11499725)
Over 55s have more time to watch telly than the 20 somethings. The live audience at the events will be predominantly under the age of being middle aged.



You can't just "say stuff" and have it magically be true Parmy. Evidence exists. We're already on the internet. It's right there, just one tab away.

Cherie 29-08-2024 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11499721)
That's not true

Adult darts fans tend to be older: just 18% are aged 18-34 compared to 27% of the general sports-watching population, while 45% (vs. 40% of sports fans) are over 55

https://business.yougov.com/content/...essional-darts

Not sure about that maybe sitting at home, but the audience are generally young men and women

user104658 29-08-2024 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11499729)
Not sure about that maybe sitting at home, but the audience are generally young men and women

Peek at the spoiler above Cherie and tell me the picture is lying.

Cherie 29-08-2024 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Quantum Boy (Post 11499726)
I'll just ask what I asked above;

1) Why are they there?

2) Who is it for?

If you can reasonably answer those two things in a way that is at all reaslistic, and doesn't boil down to "to be nice to look at", "for men" then that's the start of a conversation. Until then you're just shouting "no you're wrong!". If I'm wrong give me an alternative, realistic, explanation.

Actually since they were binned in 2018 the sport has been growing, so no one knows why they have suddenly decided to do this, someone somewhere thought it was a good idea 6 years later


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