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vesavius 21-10-2024 12:35 AM

Not only is Ali an obnoxious control freak she is wildly inconsistent
 
First, really bored of her constantly attempting to control the speech of others.

Secondly, I hated when she used her job as a shield and pretended to not be 'sensitive'.

She clearly, in her own words, admits to Marcello that she was offended by his conversation. It wasn't about her job, it WAS about her being offended. why even lie like that? More manipulation.

This is the 'blunt honesty' some love her for? Nah.

Marcello was not 'telling her off', he was attempting to express to her that she had handled the situation badly but, as ever, queen ****ing Ali is never wrong and always perfect. In her head at least.

"I don't think that this conversation is helpful because I don't think that you are going to agree with me"... there we have it, Ali in a nutshell. It's only every 'helpful' if you bend the knee to her.

GlitterUK 21-10-2024 12:49 AM

Cannot stand the bully. Her treatment of Khaled was awful. She is a hypocritical cold bitch.

Mrluvaluva 21-10-2024 01:12 AM

Personally I wouldn't pander to her opinions. I would call her out, but then again, like you say, she's very dismissive. I agree with every word. With discussion comes clarity. She has shown many times that she states her opinion and then walks away because she thinks she is quite correct in her viewpoints.

She needs a reality check.

GlitterUK 21-10-2024 01:16 AM

She reminds me of Roxanne Palette from celeb bb in the way she goes about things. There is some real hate within her like Roxy was with that poor lad.

Mrluvaluva 21-10-2024 01:22 AM

She's made Khaled feel uncomfortable. Now Marcello. She's been **** stirring about Sarah and others. She was **** stirring to Lily on live feed on Saturday night. If it's your aim in life to do that then that's not a great attribute in a person.

GlitterUK 21-10-2024 01:29 AM

She is too busy commenting on others, she needs to look at her own actions before judging others.

Maru 21-10-2024 01:50 AM

Everything does conveniently seem to work out to be about how Ali is always right. That's always been a red flag for me for BB HMs. Nobody is 100% right all the time. And yet she's incredibly self-aware she leaves this perception because she's often prepping people with "I'll admit fault, if X" and how she's ready to concede different views, but never seems to find herself in a position to actually have to do the work to do so. It's always conveniently done when it works in her favor.

There are times we should actively take part in sharing blame with others, instead of picking it apart looking for inaccurate bits. Especially when there are relationships that could be worth salvaging or maintaining. This isn't the same as someone being angry at themselves for not getting it right. Or being sorry that another person as a result "feels bad". Or even worse, reduces another person's main complaints in a disagreement to be lesser than, more like simple clerical errors in judgement. Sometimes though people will turn around their massive errors to be more like a compliment that seemingly works against themselves :laugh:... "my virtuousness got the best of me".

People that work in that way will generally reduce others down to their level of score-keeping, so we never really get in touch with the real them. We sort of just get reminded our placement on some imaginary scoreboard. Of course, it is conveniently rigged to work out so that where they are forced to admit fault lies, it's usually something only they themselves can actually analyze using their self-made special rubric.

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Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva (Post 11538911)
Personally I wouldn't pander to her opinions. I would call her out, but then again, like you say, she's very dismissive. I agree with every word. With discussion comes clarity. She has shown many times that she states her opinion and then walks away because she thinks she is quite correct in her viewpoints.

She needs a reality check.

Yes, she does that to control the other person I feel like and enjoys the fact it makes them feel distressed that they can't resolve issues with her easily. They have to approach it in a way where it's going to put themselves in a position to feel vulnerable and for her, that makes them easier to provoke. It sometimes hard for someone being in this treated this way to admit to themselves that this person can be so methodical, because they prefer to believe there's some middle road option. People like that will see that, though, and take advantage of it.

She really does seem to interpret Khaled's willingness to be gracious towards others as as a weakness. Her problem is not that he is "fake". It's more that he clearly is imaginary, because the idea of someone having that willingness to connect to others is too foreign, or maybe even scary, because God forbid there be a person in her world who competes with her inner Therapy Goddess. It also says a lot about the depth of her character and how she interprets that as a character flaw if she were to show any signs of vulnerability and second-guessing around others.

Marcello does try to console people too and I've noticed he uses a lot of positivity-language also when dealing with others. I wonder if that's another reason he was pegged, is that he's gone too far and is contradicting her friendly doctor friend position too much. Just a guess. It's not like Marcello hasn't been shifting space and time to violate other personal boundaries, but that wasn't even her main complaint...... perhaps she feels if says the quiet part outloud, it'll make her gameplan too obvious, so she had to come up with the "Actually, my job will be in trouble" nonsense.

Just some speculations.

GlitterUK 21-10-2024 02:31 AM

If you are that concerned for your job don't come on BB. She has a superiority complex.
Like others has said she is a Poundland Sigmund Freud.

Man hater -
Put Ryan in storage on day 1 over Martha yet he was Blue team which confused us back then but makes sense now
Dislike of Khaled/seed planting
Calling Khaled out in group setting
what would she do if she was PM - give men a curfew
Lily can talk about being horny, suck toes, sit with her legs wide open and be vulgar yet nothing said.
Emma can be vulgar, Sarah also nothing said.
Rosie part of the sex chat yet doesn't get any initial flak
The general way she talks down to men
Shaming Marcello in a group setting when talking about sex stuff belittling him.

She tries to control others. For someone who is a psychologist she is judgemental, patronising, calculated and a master manipulator and not someone I would want to work with.

People use excuses like it is her ADHD etc but it is not she has a stinking attitude.

She is however an entertaining housemate and divides the audience.

bots 21-10-2024 04:28 AM

I don't think Ali deals with individual "patients" on a personal level. She doesn't appear to be a doctor, so how could she get struck off.

If she had patients, could she just leave them to someone else for 6+ weeks to go on a TV show? Is that not more of a red flag to any disciplinary board than what someone says on a TV show? This doesn't add up to me. Is she a BB mole? I'm sensing something a bit fishy

Zizu 21-10-2024 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlitterUK (Post 11538922)
She is too busy commenting on others, she needs to look at her own actions before judging others.


They are all continuously talking about other housemates - that’s because there’s nothing else to do .

You realise that , surely ?


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Beso 21-10-2024 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bots (Post 11538944)
I don't think Ali deals with individual "patients" on a personal level. She doesn't appear to be a doctor, so how could she get struck off.

If she had patients, could she just leave them to someone else for 6+ weeks to go on a TV show? Is that not more of a red flag to any disciplinary board than what someone says on a TV show? This doesn't add up to me. Is she a BB mole? I'm sensing something a bit fishy

Bb rat

bots 21-10-2024 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11539010)
Bb rat

i doubt she really is a bb plant, but her professional life isn't exactly clear, and she hasn't done anything to clarify it

Ammi 21-10-2024 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 11538880)
First, really bored of her constantly attempting to [b]control[b] the speech of others.

Secondly, I hated when she used her job as a shield and pretended to not be 'sensitive'.

She clearly, in her own words, admits to Marcello that she was offended by his conversation. It wasn't about her job, it WAS about her being offended. why even lie like that? More manipulation.

This is the 'blunt honesty' some love her for? Nah.

Marcello was not 'telling her off', he was attempting to express to her that she had handled the situation badly but, as ever, queen ****ing Ali is never wrong and always perfect. In her head at least.

"I don't think that this conversation is helpful because I don't think that you are going to agree with me"... there we have it, Ali in a nutshell. It's only every 'helpful' if you bend the knee to her.

…yeah I think ‘control’ is exactly the right word and way of it…with that conversation, I personally don’t think it was so much the content of it…(…although, she didn’t like the content…)…but I personally think that it was more that she couldn’t leave as BB had gathered them on the sofa…?…so it’s that lack of or giving up of ‘control’ and I honestly think that’s what Ali is struggling with…she tried to close down Marcello by saying that she KNEW what would get her struck off the register with her job…I mean, that’s just nonsense, it really is…to say that it’s ok with the register and employers to go into the BB house but not to be present for any content that she isn’t a part of anyway…no, it’s all nonsense and very controlling nonsense and levelled at people to close them down and say…don’t you dare question me, how in heavens would you know…!!!!!!!!…..

Ammi 21-10-2024 07:24 AM

…I wonder if BB see these characteristics in people through the interview stages and think….ooooooo, yeah…controlling would be good, that’ll bring some drama…or if they don’t see them and they just unfold once the housemates enter the house…it’s quite interesting…

bots 21-10-2024 07:26 AM

controlling personality is not a typical trait of a psychiatrist :laugh:

Ammi 21-10-2024 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by bots (Post 11539023)
controlling personality is not a typical trait of a psychiatrist :laugh:

…Ali’s a forensic psychologist, though and the skill set with different sections of psychology will also differ…as well as training obviously…but it’s not necessarily something that would display within her job role anyway, is it…it can be there as something which creates a ‘balance’ outside of work…?…like for instance and I’m just throwing this out there in a moment, I haven’t given it any thought etc…:laugh:…but so much of her job/work role could be out of her control in the things she will be made aware of in human behaviour because she deals with the criminal mind, as it were…?…so ‘controlling’ in other aspects of her life could be a coping tool that she uses, if that makes sense…obviously I’m just making all of that up and pondering what you said….

bots 21-10-2024 07:51 AM

i've never heard of the role forensic psychologist before. Forensic basically means evidenced based research to my thinking. It sounds more like a desk job. A forensic accountant for example examines figures. I'm not convinced she has any dealings with "patients", so how could she get struck off :laugh:


To me, there is more to what she is not saying rather than what she is sharing

Ammi 21-10-2024 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bots (Post 11539037)
i've never heard of the role forensic psychologist before. Forensic basically means evidenced based research to my thinking. It sounds more like a desk job. A forensic accountant for example examines figures. I'm not convinced she has any dealings with "patients", so how could she get struck off :laugh:


To me, there is more to what she is not saying rather than what she is sharing

…she may not directly be ‘face to face’ with offenders…(…but then she may be, also because some forensic psychologists will…)…but the job role I think, would involve profiling alongside police and investigation teams so pretty grim things and crimes etc …I mean, she’s obviously been drawn to that as a career so it’s obviously also something that her character ‘fits’, you know…?…

Crimson Dynamo 21-10-2024 07:58 AM

I mean pretending that

Going on Big Brother is not an issue with her job

But listening to someone talk about "sex" is

Is beyond fanciful

FromBB8 21-10-2024 08:03 AM

I'd have thought her behaviour in the house would be putting her job more at risk than listening to the housemates talk about sex.

bots 21-10-2024 08:06 AM

the other thing is, her job is likely to be more of a freelance role. I basically think she is spinning a yarn to the hm's

Ammi 21-10-2024 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bots (Post 11539043)
the other thing is, her job is likely to be more of a freelance role. I basically think she is spinning a yarn to the hm's

…I’m not sure about spinning a yarn, that’s something that would be revealed so quickly, wouldn’t it…the media would have been on that…but I think she’s manipulating and using some things as a way to control…’if you continue with the sex chat and inferences etc, then you’re putting my whole career at risk…’…that’s not a good look from her at all, is it…

thesheriff443 21-10-2024 08:18 AM

If her parents were going to be shocked and upset by that conversation how did their heads not fall of their shoulders when she told them she is now a lesbian

Maru 21-10-2024 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bots (Post 11539023)
controlling personality is not a typical trait of a psychiatrist :laugh:

She's not a psychiatrist as I think they handle medications and are more like clinicians. She'd have pilled Lily by now and sent her labs in to clamp down on the chronic screaming and nosepicking behavior.

rusticgal 21-10-2024 08:35 AM

Cannot stand her...she is one manipulative bitch who constantly spills hypocrisy.

Crimson Dynamo 21-10-2024 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11539020)
…I wonder if BB see these characteristics in people through the interview stages and think….ooooooo, yeah…controlling would be good, that’ll bring some drama…or if they don’t see them and they just unfold once the housemates enter the house…it’s quite interesting…

I doubt its that subtle


all they heard was "blah blah blah blah blah lesbian blah blah blah"

tick

AnnieK 21-10-2024 09:35 AM

She is so far out of her comfort zone, I actually feel quite concerned for her. The BB house is obviously not the right environment for her to be in.

The behaviour she is exhibiting looks like total defence mechanisms but she is not realising how bad it is making her look trying to control the narrative for everyone.

I think she will come to regret this experience dearly.

FromBB8 21-10-2024 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11539106)
She is so far out of her comfort zone, I actually feel quite concerned for her. The BB house is obviously not the right environment for her to be in.

The behaviour she is exhibiting looks like total defence mechanisms but she is not realising how bad it is making her look trying to control the narrative for everyone.

I think she will come to regret this experience dearly.

The irony being, if she could just be more friendly towards Khaled, I think he could be someone who could help her through it. From what we've heard on the live feed from Daze and Sarah, he's been very supportive towards them through tough moments.

Zizu 21-10-2024 10:21 AM

Not only is Ali an obnoxious control freak she is wildly inconsistent
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11539106)
She is so far out of her comfort zone, I actually feel quite concerned for her. The BB house is obviously not the right environment for her to be in.

The behaviour she is exhibiting looks like total defence mechanisms but she is not realising how bad it is making her look trying to control the narrative for everyone.

I think she will come to regret this experience dearly.


.. I recorded last night’s episode and was actually watching the Live Feed … as soon as I saw Khaled saying some critical things about Ali it was clear that something has / had just happened involving her.

At that moment I took the decision to stop watching this series completely - no main programs or Late & Live or Live Stream and certainly no participation in BB forum chat.

If she is going to be the centre of another row then she will hopefully WALK in the coming days as it could result in her having a meltdown ..

Clearly most of you would absolutely love seeing her falling apart but that’s on you .

We have seen what can happen to a few Love Island participants after the series



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arista 21-10-2024 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bots (Post 11539023)
controlling personality is not a typical trait of a psychiatrist :laugh:


Forensic Psychologist

FromBB8 21-10-2024 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11539140)
.. I recorded last night’s episode and was actually watching the Live Feed … as soon as I saw Khaled saying some critical things about Ali it was clear that something has / had just happened involving her.

At that moment I took the decision to stop watching this series completely - no main programs or Late & Live or Live Stream and certainly no participation in BB forum chat.

If she is going to be the centre of another row then she will hopefully WALK in the coming days as it could result in her having a meltdown ..

Clearly most of you would absolutely love seeing her falling apart but that’s on you .

We have seen what can happen to a few Love Island participants after the series

Just imagine when she is voted out and starts reading all the awful criticisms aimed at her on TwitterX … AND on THIS forum .. and then does something unthinkable !!


You will all be partly to blame ..


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Then it's up to the producers to manage the situation effectively in, and also outside of, the House, particularly in supporting Ali. Your approach seems to be that Ali should be above criticism for her behaviour in the House. That's just not feasible considering the public vote is purely based on how we perceive and judge the housemates.

AnnieK 21-10-2024 10:36 AM

:conf:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11539140)
.. I recorded last night’s episode and was actually watching the Live Feed … as soon as I saw Khaled saying some critical things about Ali it was clear that something has / had just happened involving her.

At that moment I took the decision to stop watching this series completely - no main programs or Late & Live or Live Stream and certainly no participation in BB forum chat.

If she is going to be the centre of another row then she will hopefully WALK in the coming days as it could result in her having a meltdown ..

Clearly most of you would absolutely love seeing her falling apart but that’s on you .

We have seen what can happen to a few Love Island participants after the series

Just imagine when she is voted out and starts reading all the awful criticisms aimed at her on TwitterX … AND on THIS forum .. and then does something unthinkable !!


You will all be partly to blame ..


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Is this posted at me as I have not said anything on this forum, or anywhere else, that I wouldn't feel comfortable saying to a person's face. :shrug: I would absolutely NOT love Ali or anyone falling apart in the name of entertainment,

You yourself have been critical of many reality stars over the years, I remember your dislike for Ekin-Su during her time on Love Island and you were pretty vocal then and so you cannot put blame on people for voicing an opinion on a forum for a TV show that someone has voluntarily applied for and gone on.

I appreciate you feel quite protective of Ali for various reasons but people are allowed to have other thoughts and feelings and express them.

Ammi 21-10-2024 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11539143)
Forensic Psychologist

…indeed sir, there are multiple branches of psychology and Ali isn’t in any type of social psychology so far as I know…profiling of criminal behaviours and looking at typical behaviour patterns and how to help in directing them in more healthy ways is very specific…in a house of criminals and offenders etc…she’d be very valuable, I would say…very insightful …but maybe her career makes her quite ‘suspicious and paranoid’ in observing behaviour as well and actions and reactions…/…she might over think and over study in people who she doesn’t know so well…I still find her interesting, I have to say….

Ammi 21-10-2024 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11539140)
.. I recorded last night’s episode and was actually watching the Live Feed … as soon as I saw Khaled saying some critical things about Ali it was clear that something has / had just happened involving her.

At that moment I took the decision to stop watching this series completely - no main programs or Late & Live or Live Stream and certainly no participation in BB forum chat.

If she is going to be the centre of another row then she will hopefully WALK in the coming days as it could result in her having a meltdown ..

Clearly most of you would absolutely love seeing her falling apart but that’s on you .

We have seen what can happen to a few Love Island participants after the series

Just imagine when she is voted out and starts reading all the awful criticisms aimed at her on TwitterX … AND on THIS forum .. and then does something unthinkable !!


You will all be partly to blame ..


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…no, we really and sincerely wouldn’t, Zizu…that would be pretty horrific and uncomfortable …if there are a few who feel that and want that…?….then that would be a tiny minority I would say…

vesavius 21-10-2024 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11539140)
.. I recorded last night’s episode and was actually watching the Live Feed … as soon as I saw Khaled saying some critical things about Ali it was clear that something has / had just happened involving her.

At that moment I took the decision to stop watching this series completely - no main programs or Late & Live or Live Stream and certainly no participation in BB forum chat.

If she is going to be the centre of another row then she will hopefully WALK in the coming days as it could result in her having a meltdown ..

Clearly most of you would absolutely love seeing her falling apart but that’s on you .

We have seen what can happen to a few Love Island participants after the series

Just imagine when she is voted out and starts reading all the awful criticisms aimed at her on TwitterX … AND on THIS forum .. and then does something unthinkable !!


You will all be partly to blame ..


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I make it a habit to not talk about the forum members here and ty to keep it about the HMs and show, but this is a disgusting post.

So much wrong with it that I cba to break it down.

Niamh. 21-10-2024 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bots (Post 11539037)
i've never heard of the role forensic psychologist before. Forensic basically means evidenced based research to my thinking. It sounds more like a desk job. A forensic accountant for example examines figures. I'm not convinced she has any dealings with "patients", so how could she get struck off :laugh:


To me, there is more to what she is not saying rather than what she is sharing

What does a forensic psychologist do?
A Forensic Psychologist, sometimes referred to as a Criminal Profiler, works with law enforcement agencies to develop a brief profile of criminals, based on common psychological traits. In their line of work they study the behavior of criminals and address anything from psychological theories to legal issues.

Niamh. 21-10-2024 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11539150)
:conf:

Is this posted at me as I have not said anything on this forum, or anywhere else, that I wouldn't feel comfortable saying to a person's face. :shrug: I would absolutely NOT love Ali or anyone falling apart in the name of entertainment,

You yourself have been critical of many reality stars over the years, I remember your dislike for Ekin-Su during her time on Love Island and you were pretty vocal then and so you cannot put blame on people for voicing an opinion on a forum for a TV show that someone has voluntarily applied for and gone on.

I appreciate you feel quite protective of Ali for various reasons but people are allowed to have other thoughts and feelings and express them.

Exactly. This is what BB is about. It seems very selective moral high grounding depending on which HMs he likes/dislikes.

Gusto Brunt 21-10-2024 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlitterUK (Post 11538892)
Cannot stand the bully. Her treatment of Khaled was awful. She is a hypocritical cold bitch.

I wouldn't go as far as saying I can't stand her, but she is a rather dull person who using what she does in her day job, to try and twist what the housmates say or are feeling.

She doens't have a sense of humour and I find everything she says in small talk tedious. :p

Ammi 21-10-2024 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11539157)
What does a forensic psychologist do?
A Forensic Psychologist, sometimes referred to as a Criminal Profiler, works with law enforcement agencies to develop a brief profile of criminals, based on common psychological traits. In their line of work they study the behavior of criminals and address anything from psychological theories to legal issues.

…bots is still a bit of an apprentice when it comes to true crime stuff and the criminal mind…

Niamh. 21-10-2024 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11539161)
…bots is still a bit of an apprentice when it comes to true crime stuff and the criminal mind…

:hehe:

Oh I watched that show as well Sweet Bobby, crazy


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