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vesavius 21-10-2024 12:55 AM

Dean labelling Khaled as 'problematic'
 
wtf is that about? How is Khaled 'Problematic' (god, I hate that word)

And Ali nodding along pretending to not be mean but loving it. We call that 'performative niceness', btw.

But, what has Khaled done to be close to being 'problematic'?

GoldGlitter 21-10-2024 01:03 AM

Dean right. He's petty stopping Lily becoming the head of house because she would prove him wrong. He looked so cocky after walking back after smashing the window.

GlitterUK 21-10-2024 01:05 AM

Problematic - could win it? Therefore needs to go?

FromBB8 21-10-2024 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldGlitter (Post 11538900)
Dean right. He's petty stopping Lily becoming the head of house because she would prove him wrong. He looked so cocky after walking back after smashing the window.

In that case, most of the Housemates are problematic. Most took glee in what they did. I don't think Ali could have thrown the hammer much harder at Marcello's.

GlitterUK 21-10-2024 01:09 AM

It was very Traitors esk task. Quite a few of them really went for it.

Abra 21-10-2024 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldGlitter (Post 11538900)
Dean right. He's petty stopping Lily becoming the head of house because she would prove him wrong. He looked so cocky after walking back after smashing the window.

She would prove him wrong about what?

GlitterUK 21-10-2024 01:35 AM

Being a good HOH I guess.

GoldGlitter 21-10-2024 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Abra (Post 11538924)
She would prove him wrong about what?

Khaled has been saying for ages that Lily would be bad in that position and Daze stuck up for her during the pm task.

Benjamin 21-10-2024 06:47 AM

Because most from the other side like and trust him, so he’s their biggest threat.

Ammi 21-10-2024 07:03 AM

…I didn’t understand the problematic description either but I agree with Benjamin, Khaled is a ‘popular threat’ in the house isn’t he, so they were reasoning things …there may be disconnections between housemates but tactics are at play also…

arista 21-10-2024 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 11538897)
wtf is that about? How is Khaled 'Problematic' (god, I hate that word)

And Ali nodding along pretending to not be mean but loving it. We call that 'performative niceness', btw.

But, what has Khaled done to be close to being 'problematic'?


I assume he was thinking of when
Khaled was the Prime Minister in the task last week

bots 21-10-2024 07:10 AM

He could simply be problematic because he wasn't easy to pair with an opposing housemate :laugh:

GoldGlitter 21-10-2024 07:12 AM

Ali is playing more of a game. She knew Rosie has a good chance of winning bb that's why she tried to pair her with Marcello. It was Dean was stuck up for her and put Khaled there instead.

Oliver_W 21-10-2024 07:31 AM

I suppose it depends on if he meant the word in the way people on twitter use it; or if he meant "a problem in the house", which could mean a handful of things from being hard or awkward to live with (which wouldn't necessarily be obvious in the highlights show) to being a more likely winner in their eyes.

Dean doesn't strike me as the terminally online type, so he probably wasn't using the twitter-saddo definition.

FromBB8 21-10-2024 07:38 AM

Looking back the morning after the night before I wonder whether he meant problematic as in "anti-Lily".

Maru 21-10-2024 07:39 AM

This one I could easily blame on **** editing. But I thought it was more likely he was tricky competition.

Crimson Dynamo 21-10-2024 07:49 AM

Ali is jealous that BP has taken Nathan away from her

Watch her go after him now

GoldGlitter 21-10-2024 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo (Post 11539035)
Ali is jealous that BP has taken Nathan away from her

Watch he go after her now

That was Emma.

Abra 21-10-2024 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldGlitter (Post 11538929)
Khaled has been saying for ages that Lily would be bad in that position and Daze stuck up for her during the pm task.

Well I have to agree with Khaled :laugh:

GoldHeart 21-10-2024 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 11538897)
wtf is that about? How is Khaled 'Problematic' (god, I hate that word)

And Ali nodding along pretending to not be mean but loving it. We call that 'performative niceness', btw.

But, what has Khaled done to be close to being 'problematic'?


Dean & Ali together are like a couple of mean bitches,I actually understood part of their couple choices... until they got spiteful about Khaled & Marcello. Ali pretending she feels bad ,when really she doesn't care and probably enjoys it.

And I don't understand why she agreed to put 2 of her so called friends together ( Nathan & Izaaz) ,when she knows they dislike eachother. It felt like both her & Dean wanted to b a bit vindictive there for no reason.

GoldHeart 21-10-2024 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bots (Post 11539008)
He could simply be problematic because he wasn't easy to pair with an opposing housemate :laugh:

It's jealousy aswell,they know Khaled is competition.

GoldGlitter 21-10-2024 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Abra (Post 11539292)
Well I have to agree with Khaled :laugh:

Lily has never been in that position. He's letting his ego cloud his judgement. He would want her to be the head of house to prove she's acting thick.

GoldHeart 21-10-2024 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldGlitter (Post 11539873)
Lily has never been in that position. He's letting his ego cloud his judgement. He would want her to be the head of house to prove she's acting thick.

He's right though
Lily would be a terrible HOH ,no doubt she'll probably get it at some point though :notimpressed: ....and then the screaming would be even worse .

FromBB8 21-10-2024 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldGlitter (Post 11539873)
Lily has never been in that position. He's letting his ego cloud his judgement. He would want her to be the head of house to prove she's acting thick.

How does that work when he smashed her portrait so she definitely wouldn't be Head of House?

GlitterUK 21-10-2024 11:28 PM

I think with someone like lily she will get to the final regardless of how annoying she is. Does HOH continue after this week so others have a shot?

Mystic Mock 21-10-2024 11:30 PM

I'm curious about that comment.

When did he make it?

GoldHeart 21-10-2024 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11540853)
I'm curious about that comment.

When did he make it?

In the basement ,when they were doing the nomination twist .

Mystic Mock 21-10-2024 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11540862)
In the basement ,when they were doing the nomination twist .

It's a bizarre comment though because Khaled hasn't really been "problematic" from what we've seen so far anyway.

GoldHeart 21-10-2024 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11540869)
It's a bizarre comment though because Khaled hasn't really been "problematic" from what we've seen so far anyway.

It's all based on Ali's irrational hatred for Khaled, Dean is going along with it as he has no brain of his own.

Mystic Mock 21-10-2024 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11540875)
It's all based on Ali's irrational hatred for Khaled, Dean is going along with it as he has no brain of his own.

Tbf Dean did push for Khaled to be paired with Marcello, he has somehow got away with that one.:laugh:

Dean is an odd one imo.

GlitterUK 22-10-2024 12:12 AM

I liked Dean up until he was HOH. I think he maybe wants to impress Ali? or maybe see's her as powerful.

GoldHeart 22-10-2024 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GlitterUK (Post 11540893)
I liked Dean up until he was HOH. I think he maybe wants to impress Ali? or maybe see's her as powerful.

But funny things is Ali is throwing him under the bus to save her own skin, Dean is thick as 2 planks if he trusts Ali :joker:.

Abra 22-10-2024 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldGlitter (Post 11539873)
Lily has never been in that position. He's letting his ego cloud his judgement. He would want her to be the head of house to prove she's acting thick.

How would he want her to be head of house when he smashed her portrait? Lily would be a terrible HoH, maybe somewhat entertaining to watch because of just how terrible she would be, but let's not act like Khaled is wrong for saying that... :laugh:

GlitterUK 22-10-2024 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11540894)
But funny things is Ali is throwing him under the bus to save her own skin, Dean is thick as 2 planks if he trusts Ali :joker:.

I don't think it is personal it s just desperate measures now she will throw anyone under to save herself.

Ray. 22-10-2024 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11540853)
I'm curious about that comment.

When did he make it?

Given he's made no secret of how wary he was to be interacting with straight men when he first entered the house, it wouldn't surprise me that he meant Khaled was problematic in the far-left twitterati sense, sadly.

Oliver_W 22-10-2024 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray. (Post 11541393)
Given he's made no secret of how wary he was to be interacting with straight men when he first entered the house, it wouldn't surprise me that he meant Khaled was problematic in the far-left twitterati sense, sadly.

That's one of the things which make him seem (to me) to be a bit of a relic - how can someone only a bit older than me have encountered so much homophobia from his peers? To the extent where he's actually wary of interacting with straight men? It doesn't really ring true.

vesavius 22-10-2024 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11540875)
It's all based on Ali's irrational hatred for Khaled, Dean is going along with it as he has no brain of his own.

Mostly agree. This task is really exposing Dean though. He isn't Ali's dupe, I don't think.

He was playing a good game under the radar with his 'I'm just a nice guy who isn't used to being accepted' schtick, but we are starting to see him now and Ali and the spotlight of HoH is a core part of that.

This pairing is cold as ice and the others will regret deeply not removing them from the HoH pool.

I dislike both, either would have been in my targets in that breaking glass task, but I think Dean is more of an active player than people are giving him credit for. What we have seen so far isn't what Dean is, but this task is showing him up a little.

I actually think Ali noticed how Dean let her take all the damage over the fallout alone though more than she says and won't forget that going forward.

GlitterUK 22-10-2024 02:14 PM

I think the difference is you don't have horrible guys in there, most of them are lovely nice blokes.

Mystic Mock 22-10-2024 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray. (Post 11541393)
Given he's made no secret of how wary he was to be interacting with straight men when he first entered the house, it wouldn't surprise me that he meant Khaled was problematic in the far-left twitterati sense, sadly.

Sadly, it does come across that way.

Maru 22-10-2024 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11540869)
It's a bizarre comment though because Khaled hasn't really been "problematic" from what we've seen so far anyway.

There was a bit of code going on during that exercise as it seemed like half of their mutual impressions were agreed by facial expressions more than outright saying "X is blah". Unless BB cut something substantial out. Ali led a lot with silence, imo.


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