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Niamh. 21-10-2024 09:20 PM

What's the big issue with it anyway?
 
So let's just say Ali is right and Khaled is acting nicer than he is. Why does that make her so angry anyway, what is his evil plan does she think?

Adamw92 21-10-2024 09:21 PM

She is right. He uses every opportunity to come out looking like the good guy, he might not be the absolute devil but it’s not genuine.

Niamh. 21-10-2024 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Adamw92 (Post 11540408)
She is right. He uses every opportunity to come out looking like the good guy, he might not be the absolute devil but it’s not genuine.

Like what though? What do you mean coming out the good guy? I don't actually understand what he's done that he covered up by being a good guy

DrunkerThanMoses 21-10-2024 09:23 PM

It's because ali is just a sad cow who can't accept some people are nice

Adamw92 21-10-2024 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11540416)
Like what though? What do you mean coming out the good guy? I don't actually understand what he's done that he covered up by being a good guy

One example being how he pretended that he defended Izaaz with the police task during the shopping task last week when he literally sat back and said nothing against it. He didn’t wanna look bad in that situation so he just pretended that he was such a good friend.

Benjamin 21-10-2024 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11540403)
So let's just say Ali is right and Khaled is acting nicer than he is. Why does that make her so angry anyway, what is his evil plan does she think?

It’s the same reason she hates Sarah and BP too.

Benjamin 21-10-2024 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Adamw92 (Post 11540408)
She is right. He uses every opportunity to come out looking like the good guy, he might not be the absolute devil but it’s not genuine.

Even that was true, why does she need to be so hateful about it?

Maru 21-10-2024 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11540403)
So let's just say Ali is right and Khaled is acting nicer than he is. Why does that make her so angry anyway, what is his evil plan does she think?

I think it too directly challenges her role in the house as the group's in-house therapist. If other people respond too positively to Khaled and he becomes a person people feel they can depend on, it may make her gameplan too obvious.

Same with Marcello. He's been quite conciliatory and considerate of other people in there when some were having a difficult time themselves. The only person he hasn't taken to was her, but then I think after seeing how she's been treating Khaled the way she has, I don't blame him for taking a different route and keeping his distance...

Swan 21-10-2024 09:30 PM

Some real deep seeded hatred for the only male Muslim in the house, who just tries to be "the good guy". Lily with her toddler act is fine, but Khalid just being a pretty normal well mannered guy is the crime of the century? K then.

FromBB8 21-10-2024 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Adamw92 (Post 11540424)
One example being how he pretended that he defended Izaaz with the police task during the shopping task last week when he literally sat back and said nothing against it. He didn’t wanna look bad in that situation so he just pretended that he was such a good friend.

He did raise having a third person on the task but the others convinced him otherwise. He then took the brunt on the radio show and said he was happy with the decision if not the process.

I actually think his and Izaaz's relationship started to break down after he was made Head of House, and tension with Ali started to rear it's head. The police task just exacerbated that.

FromBB8 21-10-2024 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Maru (Post 11540442)
I think it too directly challenges her role in the house as the group's in-house therapist. If other people respond too positively to Khaled and he becomes a person people feel they can depend on, it may make her gameplan too obvious.

Same with Marcello. He's been quite conciliatory and considerate of other people in there when some were having a difficult time themselves. The only person he hasn't taken to was her, but then I think after seeing how she's been treating Khaled the way she has, I don't blame him for taking a different route and keeping his distance...

On the live feed - heaven help anything positive makes the highlights show except when it relates to Lily's 'journey' or the romance - both Daze and Sarah have commented how Khaled went/goes out of his way to comfort them/raise their spirits when they have been upset.

ThomasC 21-10-2024 09:34 PM

I think they had built bridges then he brings it up not long after it happens after telling people he will discuss it with her tomorrow.

I don't think she's angry, she comes across calm
She says her points.

Adamw92 21-10-2024 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 11540432)
Even that was true, why does she need to be so hateful about it?

Because it must be really stressful living with someone who is constantly plastering on this false nice guy facade. It would be exhausting to live with.

Ithinkiloveyoutoo 21-10-2024 09:47 PM

Our therapist is delulu and needs to work on unresolved trauma

Vanessa 21-10-2024 09:50 PM

He's just a nice guy. Foreign concept to her.

bots 21-10-2024 10:10 PM

Ali is vulnerable and he keeps cornering her in front of a camera, he knows exactly what he is doing

Benjamin 21-10-2024 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Adamw92 (Post 11540483)
Because it must be really stressful living with someone who is constantly plastering on this false nice guy facade. It would be exhausting to live with.

Same can be said for Lily’s screaming (which she has no issue with) or her own OTT reactions.

Adamw92 21-10-2024 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 11540641)
Same can be said for Lily’s screaming (which she has no issue with) or her own OTT reactions.

I agree. I’m not claiming she’s right to not be annoyed about that though.

Benjamin 21-10-2024 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Adamw92 (Post 11540651)
I agree. I’m not claiming she’s right to not be annoyed about that though.

Like I totally get her issue with Marcello (he can be crass), but I don’t get why she’s so fixated on Khaled, Sarah and BP. Sarah and BP haven’t come for her at all. She just strikes me as the type of person who needs to hate people, and be vocal about it.

rusticgal 21-10-2024 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11540403)
So let's just say Ali is right and Khaled is acting nicer than he is. Why does that make her so angry anyway, what is his evil plan does she think?


I cannot see anything that he has done wrong….probably just being a nice person grates on the biggest bitch in the house.

Niamh. 21-10-2024 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bots (Post 11540634)
Ali is vulnerable and he keeps cornering her in front of a camera, he knows exactly what he is doing

The whole house is full of cameras

Adamw92 21-10-2024 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 11540656)
Like I totally get her issue with Marcello (he can be crass), but I don’t get why she’s so fixated on Khaled, Sarah and BP. Sarah and BP haven’t come for her at all. She just strikes me as the type of person who needs to hate people, and be vocal about it.

We don’t see everything so we’ll never know for sure. I don’t know what her issue is with Sarah or BP but I can see where her issue with Khaled comes from in terms of the fakeness. I know you don’t agree but that’s fine.

Crimson Dynamo 21-10-2024 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ThomasC (Post 11540466)
I think they had built bridges then he brings it up not long after it happens after telling people he will discuss it with her tomorrow.

I don't think she's angry, she comes across calm
She says her points.

She has threatened to leave and tonight burst into tears again

No one else acts like that

She is raging and she has issues

Benjamin 21-10-2024 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Adamw92 (Post 11540665)
We don’t see everything so we’ll never know for sure. I don’t know what her issue is with Sarah or BP but I can see where her issue with Khaled comes from in terms of the fakeness. I know you don’t agree but that’s fine.

Yeah, but she’s always so vocal about it. It’s like she needs others to know she hates certain people. If she hadn’t have come for Khaled last week he’d probably not be too bothered by her.

GlitterUK 21-10-2024 10:22 PM

She has man issues.

GoldGlitter 21-10-2024 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Adamw92 (Post 11540483)
Because it must be really stressful living with someone who is constantly plastering on this false nice guy facade. It would be exhausting to live with.

Agreed. Look at what he said about Lily in his first nomination. He's proven he's not a nice guy. Dean said himself he's seen it with his own eyes.

ThomasC 21-10-2024 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo (Post 11540666)
She has threatened to leave and tonight burst into tears again

No one else acts like that

She is raging and she has issues

Has she? Do you have a clip?

She comes across calm and articulate most of the time imo.

I don't want to judge as it must be a pressure cooker in there

I do feel like she has got a lot of grief and Dean hasn't

Benjamin 21-10-2024 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GlitterUK (Post 11540672)
She has man issues.

Nah, that I will say isn’t true. Again, she also has issues with Sarah and BP.

Scarlett. 21-10-2024 10:24 PM

Her gaslighting behaviour is very worrisome considering she's a psychologist

Adamw92 21-10-2024 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldGlitter (Post 11540673)
Agreed. Look at what he said about Lily in his first nomination. He's proven he's not a nice guy. Dean said himself he's seen it with his own eyes.

Exactly but according to people on here, multiple people seeing the same thing is clearly just their imagination even though they live with the guy 24/7.

Benjamin 21-10-2024 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ThomasC (Post 11540678)
Has she? Do you have a clip?

She comes across calm and articulate most of the time imo.

Articulate very much so, but not sure what your definition of calm is. :laugh:

ThomasC 21-10-2024 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo (Post 11540666)
She has threatened to leave and tonight burst into tears again

No one else acts like that

She is raging and she has issues

Who does she 'hate'?

I don't think she hates anyone, she just doesn't get on with Khaled and found Marcello remarks vulgar.

Who else does she have a big issue with?

ThomasC 21-10-2024 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 11540684)
Articulate very much so, but not sure what your definition of calm is. :laugh:

Able to put her point across and leave it.

Khaled has carried things on.

She's not swearing, kicking the walls, shouting

Benjamin 21-10-2024 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ThomasC (Post 11540687)
Able to put her point across and leave it.

Khaled has carried things on.

She's not swearing, kicking the walls, shouting

But she starts it half the time (when she’s not being calm) :laugh:

ThomasC 21-10-2024 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 11540693)
But she starts it half the time (when she’s not being calm) :laugh:

Well our definitions of calm are different

Some people perceive standing up for yourself, disliking someone or having a different opinion as not being calm

Niamh. 21-10-2024 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 11540693)
But she starts it half the time (when she’s not being calm) [emoji23]

And her "leaving it" half the time means having her say and then walking off without letting the other person have theirs

Adamw92 21-10-2024 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 11540693)
But she starts it half the time (when she’s not being calm) :laugh:

She didn’t start it this time though. He said he would leave her for the night but still went at her knowing he’d get a reaction and come off looking like the poor innocent sweet victim because he’s fake as hell and needs to be seen as the sweet guy who does nothing wrong. If he was genuinely looking for what he claims he was looking for out of that conversation he would have left it until the morning like he claimed he would.

Mystic Mock 21-10-2024 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11540403)
So let's just say Ali is right and Khaled is acting nicer than he is. Why does that make her so angry anyway, what is his evil plan does she think?

Well if she's right it is incredibly phony isn't it?

One of my big issues with the entertainment industry these days is people being fake "nice" and trying to be "positive" about everyone and everything.

So I can personally understand where Ali's coming from if she feels that way about Khaled.

It's the issues with the other guys in the house that I'm more curious about with Ali.

Benjamin 21-10-2024 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Adamw92 (Post 11540713)
She didn’t start it this time though. He said he would leave her for the night but still went at her knowing he’d get a reaction and come off looking like the poor innocent sweet victim because he’s fake as hell and needs to be seen as the sweet guy who does nothing wrong. If he was genuinely looking for what he claims he was looking for out of that conversation he would have left it until the morning like he claimed he would.

I didn’t say she started it this time. :tongue:

Adamw92 21-10-2024 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 11540720)
I didn’t say she started it this time. :tongue:

So you admit he started it then? :tongue: :joker:


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