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vesavius 25-10-2024 10:49 PM

Ali attempting to apply the patriarchal pyramid to the house
 
I have never heard such bullshit as she was spouting tonight.

This fever dream of a hierarchal pyramid of power within the house is based on... What? What actual power do the lads have that the others don't? She is really claiming that the house has a patriarchy running it?

As if that house is at all run by a 'patriarchy' Who are the women are the 'most attractive' who are propping this supposed 'patriarchy' up? Hanah? Good grief.

And her pretending that she is powerless and at the bottom of her imaginary pyramid... But oh so brave for calling the def evil patriarchy out despite that of course. She's an absolute freedom fighter and she needs a medal. Probably a Victoria Cross.

Seriously, it was such a stream of utter half baked pseudo intellectual nonsense that is worthy of a 13 year old Tumblr feminist from 2016.

I was embarrassed for her and I was embarrassed that Dean sat there mindlessly nodding.

It was simply all clearly a manipulative attempt to other the lads from the rest of the house and isolate them as a group. To try and set up the idea and seemingly lead the rest of the house in some kind of 'alliance of the oppressed' against them.

rusticgal 25-10-2024 10:53 PM

Embarrassing…and the gormless Dean..Martha and Lily think she is so knowledgable and falling for her tripe.

Liam- 25-10-2024 10:54 PM

She was right actually

Barry. 25-10-2024 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11547181)
She was right actually

You understood what she was saying?

jones89 25-10-2024 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 11547173)
I have never heard such bullshit as she was spouting tonight.

This fever dream of a hierarchal pyramid of power within the house is based on... What? What actual power do the lads have that the others don't? She is really claiming that the house has a patriarchy running it?

As if that house is at all run by a 'patriarchy' Who are the women are the 'most attractive' who are propping this supposed 'patriarchy' up? Hanah? Good grief.

And her pretending that she is powerless and at the bottom of her imaginary pyramid... But oh so brave for calling the def evil patriarchy out despite that of course. She's an absolute freedom fighter and she needs a medal. Probably a Victoria Cross.

Seriously, it was such a stream of utter half baked pseudo intellectual nonsense that is worthy of a 13 year old Tumblr feminist from 2016.

I was embarrassed for her and I was embarrassed that Dean sat there mindlessly nodding.

It was simply all clearly a manipulative attempt to other the lads from the rest of the house and isolate them as a group. To try and set up the idea and seemingly lead the rest of the house in some kind of 'alliance of the oppressed' against them.

Ikr! No wonder she’s so lifeless all the time, she has to be exhausted from all that over analyzing tbh.. i see it simply as people that get on with eachother hanging out with eachother and not others that they don’t get on with as well.. it really doesn’t have to be any more complicated than that.. but leave it to Ali i supose

Mystic Mock 26-10-2024 12:08 AM

Ali has spent too much time on Twitter.:laugh:

And I say that as someone that likes Twitter.

Abra 26-10-2024 01:49 AM

Yeah she talks utter bullshit :joker:

Ammi 26-10-2024 05:15 AM

https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc...gMyA/giphy.gif

Niamh. 26-10-2024 07:28 AM

It's stupid, she's really trying to push the idea that she's a victim of oppression in there. She isn't

Beso 26-10-2024 07:31 AM

I felt like nominating her for the bb contribution thread.

vesavius 26-10-2024 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11547181)
She was right actually

How so?

vesavius 26-10-2024 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11547351)
It's stupid, she's really trying to push the idea that she's a victim of oppression in there. She isn't

I saw this on Reddit after I posted this and thought that it's interesting that even other 4th wave intersectional feminist types are calling her out...

"Ali is a well educated, relatively privileged, conventionally attractive white woman who does hold a lot of power in the house simply in her ability to articulate herself. she is obviously not afraid of speaking her mind either and has gained respect from other members of the house such as Lily.

It’s actually tone deaf and quite offensive for her to disregard the impact of other aspects of intersectionality and it doesn’t make her look smart or analytical for coming up with a “hierarchy” instead it looks like she watched “barbie” and called it a day. pleaseeee."

Mystic Mock 26-10-2024 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11547351)
It's stupid, she's really trying to push the idea that she's a victim of oppression in there. She isn't

She is ginger though.

The great Eric Cartman off South Park does teach in one of his passages that "gingers have no souls."

And what he says must be true.:hehe:

vesavius 26-10-2024 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11547444)
She is ginger though.

:joker::joker:

Ammi 26-10-2024 09:04 AM

…:laugh:…’she is ginger though’….Martha is that you…?…

thesheriff443 26-10-2024 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11547351)
It's stupid, she's really trying to push the idea that she's a victim of oppression in there. She isn't

It was another attempt to get dean on board as a foot soldier
Three main targets dean then those that support the three main targets

Basically saying to dean they have no use for you

ebandit 26-10-2024 09:06 AM

and i thought......................i don't understand 'cos i'm not as bright as ali.................

Mark L

thesheriff443 26-10-2024 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11547493)
…:laugh:…’she is ginger though’….Martha is that you…?…

Ginger witch would have been funnier but Ali wants to be known as the red witch

Niamh. 26-10-2024 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 11547502)
Ginger witch would have been funnier but Ali wants to be known as the red witch

Red witch is a Game of Thrones reference though

Oliver_W 26-10-2024 09:09 AM

It was just a load of BS. I wonder how much of it she believed herself tbh.

She's almost like the "NPC" meme, and someone fed a bunch of Tumblr nonsense into an AI generator and asked it to write literal gibberish about the housemates.

AND I want to fish-slap anyone who unironically calls themselves or others "queer."

thesheriff443 26-10-2024 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11547506)
Red witch is a Game of Thrones reference though

I’ve not watched that.

vesavius 26-10-2024 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11547281)

:joker::joker:

Katmieow 26-10-2024 10:25 AM

For a psychologist she speaks utter inane psychobabble.

Zizu 26-10-2024 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Katmieow (Post 11547547)
For a psychologist she speaks utter inane psychobabble.


Welcome to the forum


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Tizmee 26-10-2024 11:34 AM

I don’t understand why none of the other HG’s have pulled Ali up on her verbal diarrhoea!

They don’t need to have an ‘ology to see how she’s trying to manipulate them into nominating (and despising) others her way!

vesavius 26-10-2024 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11547179)
Embarrassing…and the gormless Dean..Martha and Lily think she is so knowledgable and falling for her tripe.

This illusion of intelligence she has, apparently based on staying calm and having a nice accent, is a real thing.

The more that I hear her speak the more I think she is actually quite dense.

She has a sub 6th formers understanding of everything she talks about. She even openly admits that she is not aware of the actual meaning of the performative protest tee shirts that she wears. It's indeed embarrassing.

Crimson Dynamo 26-10-2024 11:38 AM

She is the typical dead-eyed goon on a pro-hamas rally holding a Socialist Worker Placard
wearing an "all illegal migrants welcome" tea shirt whilst having just paid Ł100 to renew her passport...

:skull:

Niamh. 26-10-2024 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 11547512)
I’ve not watched that.


rusticgal 26-10-2024 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 11547586)
This illusion of intelligence she has, apparently based on staying calm and having a nice accent, is a real thing.

The more that I hear her speak the more I think she is actually quite dense.

She has a sub 6th formers understanding of everything she talks about. She even openly admits that she is not aware of the actual meaning of the performative protest tee shirts that she wears. It's indeed embarrassing.


You have hit the nail on the head...she looks like she knows what she is talking about...she sounds like she is intelligent but she actually talks complete rubbish and calls out others for behaviour that she does all the time.

Dean, Martha and Lily are too thick to realise. She can only fool the foolish.

This is why she feels threatened by Khalid because he is quite astute and plays her at her own game. She was initially close to Nathan but she is wary of him because he is not afraid to call her out like he did last night.

Tizmee 26-10-2024 12:18 PM

I must’ve missed something…

How did Nathan pull Ali up last night?

rusticgal 26-10-2024 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tizmee (Post 11547620)
I must’ve missed something…

How did Nathan pull Ali up last night?


It was not major...it was when they were discussing Martha's dress sense and Nathan wasn't agreeing with Ali's opinion and told her to **** off before shutting the smoking room door.

GoldHeart 26-10-2024 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11547179)
Embarrassing…and the gormless Dean..Martha and Lily think she is so knowledgable and falling for her tripe.

This has really annoyed me,why is she making it about the " straight blokes" against " the Queer people", the fact she's putting Nathan with her group is hilarious... considering he can't stand Martha,her fellow close friend:joker:.

Dean is her lapdog, he was just nodding along,he can't think for himself.

Ali is obsessed with the game, yet keeps calling others the ' fake ones' .

rusticgal 26-10-2024 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11547729)
This has really annoyed me,why is she making it about the " straight blokes" against " the Queer people", the fact she's putting Nathan with her group is hilarious... considering he can't stand Martha,her fellow close friend:joker:.

Dean is her lapdog, he was just nodding along,he can't think for himself.

Ali is obsessed with the game, yet keeps calling others the ' fake ones' .


I mean it is a game...but she can't play her game without people like Dean, Martha and Lily who do not have a brain cell between them.
This is why she hates Khalid and Marcello...because they are actually smart and call her out.

GoldHeart 26-10-2024 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11547735)
I mean it is a game...but she can't play her game without people like Dean, Martha and Lily who do not have a brain cell between them.
This is why she hates Khalid and Marcello...because they are actually smart and call her out.

True it is a game .

I just don't like how she's using gender & sexuality as a main reason for this ' pyramid divide' , she started the issue with Khaled in the first place...and she's clashed with Marcello. None of the " straight lads" had a problem with her ... until she started her paranoia and psycho analysis BS .

It's interesting she's forgotten about Thomas, I guess she doesn't mind him too much .

rusticgal 26-10-2024 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11547738)
True it is a game .

I just don't like how she's using gender & sexuality as a main reason for this ' pyramid divide' , she started the issue with Khaled in the first place...and she's clashed with Marcello. None of the " straight lads" had a problem with her ... until she started her paranoia and psycho analysis BS .

It's interesting she's forgotten about Thomas, I guess she doesn't mind him too much .

I mean she also talks all the time as though Khalid started the whole fall out off...when she was the one who started everything by calling him fake...she is deluded and as I have always said she will twist everything to suit her agenda.
When she gets called out for it she walks off.
She is just playing the victim using the Gender and Sexuality issue...and of course Dean will see himself as a victim too...

Zizu 26-10-2024 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11547739)
I mean she also talks all the time as though Khalid started the whole fall out off...when she was the one who started everything by calling him fake...she is deluded and as I have always said she will twist everything to suit her agenda.
When she gets called out for it she walks off.
She is just playing the victim using the Gender and Sexuality issue...and of course Dean will see himself as a victim too...


Maybe she’s simply playing a game

Maybe she’s just a complex character

Either way she isn’t a BAD person


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Kazanne 26-10-2024 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11547741)
Maybe she’s simply playing a game

Maybe she’s just a complex character

Either way she isn’t a BAD person


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I doubt any of them are bad people,

vesavius 26-10-2024 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11547741)
Maybe she’s simply playing a game

Maybe she’s just a complex character

Either way she isn’t a BAD person

Well, she isn't a 'bad person' if we accept only the two possibles that you present as being the only ones.

Which isn't the case.

caprimint 26-10-2024 04:07 PM

The way it was actually accurate tho :skull:

Crimson Dynamo 26-10-2024 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 11547779)
I doubt any of them are bad people,

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