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Redway 31-10-2024 02:38 AM

What exactly is Nathan trying to say when he says he’s right-wing?
 
Should we be worried?

blisstheassassin 31-10-2024 03:35 AM

This thread brought me out of lurk mode.

Firstly I think that it's important to remember that not everybody who votes the same way, thinks the same way. For example I did vote Labour at the last election but I certainly didn't agree with all Daze's view points.

Also Nathan seems pretty well liked in the house so far and even people who obviously don't agree with him politically ie. Ali, Emma and Khalid seem quite fond of him. Even Daze and him didn't nominate each other in the first week despite their many debates ( I think they secretly enjoyed them).

To make a long story short I think it's wrong to assume the worst in someone.

Mystic Mock 31-10-2024 04:15 AM

I think with Nathan I'm going to guess that he probably wants more controlled immigration to be a priority in the country, and he is a big royalist (which the royals are incredibly popular with the right) plus he probably believes that the Tories will do better with the Economy and law & order.

Because I don't believe that Nathan is a racist.

vesavius 31-10-2024 06:04 AM

I am just going to say here though that having right wing views does not make you racist or immoral. I meet more left wingers obsessed with race than the vast majority of right wingers are, tbh.

Right wing simply means low taxes, personal agency, private ownership, free speech, small government, and traditional values such as the value of the family and respect for cultural history. I personally like all these things.

I have no problems with anyone center right or center left... It's the authoritarian nut job extremists of either end that bother me.

Nathan has shown zero signs of being at all racist, and I say this not really liking him and thinking he is a bit of a twat.

Ammi 31-10-2024 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 11553034)
I am just going to say here though that having right wing views does not make you racist or immoral. I meet more left wingers obsessed with race than the vast majority of right wingers are, tbh.

Right wing simply means low taxes, personal agency, private ownership, free speech, small government, and traditional values such as the value of the family and respect for cultural history. I personally like all these things.

I have no problems with anyone center right or center left... It's the authoritarian nut job extremists of either end that bother me.

Nathan has shown zero signs of being at all racist, and I say this not really liking him and thinking he is a bit of a twat.


…this so much for me, also…no political side is good when it’s an extreme side…I’m not sure but I think Nathan’s eyebrow raised a bit when others said they were Labour supporters…I hope that he also has that stance of not judging on politics …I have to say that I’m glad there haven’t been too many politics chats also as it’s good to get away from that type of overload as well…

joeysteele 31-10-2024 06:22 AM

I voted the second option.

I feel he may be another who has more easily fallen for the spouting of Farage.
Because that's who he claims he admired in politics.

No, Nathan's not racist.
I'd like to hear more of his deeper thinking, not on BB though, I don't think BB viewers want too much of politics on BB.
However I found how he debated with Daze interesting because he seemed open to at least some of what she was saying.

There's nothing wrong with being right wing or left wing.
So his identifying as being right wing doesn't indicate anything really negative about him at all

Ray. 31-10-2024 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 11553034)
I am just going to say here though that having right wing views does not make you racist or immoral. I meet more left wingers obsessed with race than the vast majority of right wingers are, tbh.

Right wing simply means low taxes, personal agency, private ownership, free speech, small government, and traditional values such as the value of the family and respect for cultural history. I personally like all these things.

I have no problems with anyone center right or center left... It's the authoritarian nut job extremists of either end that bother me.

Nathan has shown zero signs of being at all racist, and I say this not really liking him and thinking he is a bit of a twat.

This

Vega 31-10-2024 07:32 AM

Nathan when they asked him to justify the royal privilege he had nothing

Crimson Dynamo 31-10-2024 07:35 AM

rather silly and derisory options so i never voted

and a silly question as being right wing or left wing is not a complex issue to understand

UserSince2005 31-10-2024 07:47 AM

Hes trying to say hes better than the rest of em, which he is.

Vicky. 31-10-2024 08:30 AM

I have seen absolutely nothing to suggest he may be racist

Cherie 31-10-2024 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 11553034)
I am just going to say here though that having right wing views does not make you racist or immoral. I meet more left wingers obsessed with race than the vast majority of right wingers are, tbh.

Right wing simply means low taxes, personal agency, private ownership, free speech, small government, and traditional values such as the value of the family and respect for cultural history. I personally like all these things.

I have no problems with anyone center right or center left... It's the authoritarian nut job extremists of either end that bother me.

Nathan has shown zero signs of being at all racist, and I say this not really liking him and thinking he is a bit of a twat.

.

Kazanne 31-10-2024 09:02 AM

People trying to label Nathan,maybe just because he is a Tory, He has not shown any signs of racism at all, he seems to me to mix with them all and is enjoying his experience without any malice going on.I might be the only one but I like him.

smudgie 31-10-2024 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 11553034)
I am just going to say here though that having right wing views does not make you racist or immoral. I meet more left wingers obsessed with race than the vast majority of right wingers are, tbh.

Right wing simply means low taxes, personal agency, private ownership, free speech, small government, and traditional values such as the value of the family and respect for cultural history. I personally like all these things.

I have no problems with anyone center right or center left... It's the authoritarian nut job extremists of either end that bother me.

Nathan has shown zero signs of being at all racist, and I say this not really liking him and thinking he is a bit of a twat.

Well said.
Mind I have no clue what he goes on about half the time,in general not his politics.

Niamh. 31-10-2024 09:51 AM

Very provocative wording there. It makes your Polls hard to vote in

Oliver_W 31-10-2024 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redway (Post 11552989)
Should we be worried?

Worried about what? That someone we'll never meet might believe in smaller state and lower taxes?

The horror!


(I'm ignoring the poll because the options you give are always the "worst take" view of any opinion)

jones89 31-10-2024 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 11553034)
I am just going to say here though that having right wing views does not make you racist or immoral. I meet more left wingers obsessed with race than the vast majority of right wingers are, tbh.

Right wing simply means low taxes, personal agency, private ownership, free speech, small government, and traditional values such as the value of the family and respect for cultural history. I personally like all these things.

I have no problems with anyone center right or center left... It's the authoritarian nut job extremists of either end that bother me.

Nathan has shown zero signs of being at all racist, and I say this not really liking him and thinking he is a bit of a twat.

Yeah. Homophobic would have probably been thrown in there too if it wasn’t Nathan :bored:

bots 31-10-2024 10:34 AM

if we are referring to the same conversation, it could be said that those voicing support for corbyn are the ones with a problem given he was an ex leader who was thrown out of the party for antisemitism

BBXX 31-10-2024 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 11553034)
I am just going to say here though that having right wing views does not make you racist or immoral. I meet more left wingers obsessed with race than the vast majority of right wingers are, tbh.

Right wing simply means low taxes, personal agency, private ownership, free speech, small government, and traditional values such as the value of the family and respect for cultural history. I personally like all these things.

I have no problems with anyone center right or center left... It's the authoritarian nut job extremists of either end that bother me.

Nathan has shown zero signs of being at all racist, and I say this not really liking him and thinking he is a bit of a twat.

:clap1: I agree with this. In the past I have voted Tories and identified as centre-right mainly due to my economic stances, I do like small government and private ownership etc... socially, I would say I'm more centre-left and so each election I just feel politically homeless :laugh:

Nathan is the kind of right-wing that most people who are right wing are. I firmly believe 90% of the population sit between centre-right and centre-left and most live along one another harmoniously because there is often very little difference between the two, in the grand scheme of things.

Niamh. 31-10-2024 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBXX (Post 11553248)
:clap1: I agree with this. In the past I have voted Tories and identified as centre-right mainly due to my economic stances, I do like small government and private ownership etc... socially, I would say I'm more centre-left and so each election I just feel politically homeless :laugh:

Nathan is the kind of right-wing that most people who are right wing are. I firmly believe 90% of the population sit between centre-right and centre-left and most live along one another harmoniously because there is often very little difference between the two, in the grand scheme of things.

Absolutely

GoldHeart 31-10-2024 12:35 PM

As usual the poll doesn't have the right description,so I will not vote .

But I will say I think Nathan is a bit classist , he deffo pre judges people . I don't particularly think he's a nice guy if I'm honest. He's got a smugness to him, and a air of know it all syndrome.

He's a massive royalist,he probably thinks the sun shines out their backside.... he's also bias in that respect as he worked for Charles.

He has an ideology where he thinks the Tories will save Britain ,and get us all out the sh1tter , I personally think he's mistaken.

He slags down labour, whilst ignoring all the faults in the conservatives. We've had 15 years of huge embarrassing moments whilst in a Tory government,and Nathan brushes over that.

He arrogantly thinks his party is the right one . When in reality .... like Hanah was pointing out it's about the type of leader they appoint.

I don't think Nathan is racist , but he probably will believe any misinformation he's fed ...if he likes that particular leader or MP.

Nathan's main views seem to be economy, Royals & immigration control.

Garfie 31-10-2024 02:04 PM

He’s said he is Conservative. He believes in the main stance of a certain political party, but might not necessarily agree with every single policy. To me, it says no more than that, unless we choose to read more into it. We have to judge him for what he says and what he does, not according to which political party he supports, as that gives just an indication of what he thinks and who he is. It isn’t the full picture.

vesavius 31-10-2024 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBXX (Post 11553248)
:clap1: I agree with this. In the past I have voted Tories and identified as centre-right mainly due to my economic stances, I do like small government and private ownership etc... socially, I would say I'm more centre-left and so each election I just feel politically homeless :laugh:

Nathan is the kind of right-wing that most people who are right wing are. I firmly believe 90% of the population sit between centre-right and centre-left and most live along one another harmoniously because there is often very little difference between the two, in the grand scheme of things.

Agreed, and I feel the same regarding being politically homeless.

Antinous 31-10-2024 04:39 PM

Get Nathan out the disgusting little creep. First he targets Martha and now Dean.

Crimson Dynamo 31-10-2024 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antinous (Post 11553575)
Get Nathan out the disgusting little creep. First he targets Martha and now Dean.

Dean is a weasel and I'm afraid its not really up for debate


:shrug:

Pinkwaves 31-10-2024 05:20 PM

Nathan's speech about the Tories sorting themselves out was stupid. They were in power for 14 years and destroyed this country.

GoldHeart 31-10-2024 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinkwaves (Post 11553629)
Nathan's speech about the Tories sorting themselves out was stupid. They were in power for 14 years and destroyed this country.

Exactly,but he glosses over it .

GoldHeart 31-10-2024 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 11553455)
Agreed, and I feel the same regarding being politically homeless.

Oh I don't trust any of them , hence why I didn't vote just like Hanah :laugh: .

Redway 01-11-2024 06:35 AM

I mean, after last night, who knows? Who knows?

GoldHeart 01-11-2024 01:30 PM

Last night confirms exactly what I said, he's a jumped up lanky insensitive turd . With a ugly superiority complex. He's not interested in anything Khaled has to say .

He should have just stuck to the " vain looking at camera's" , reason for choosing Khaled's name. Going on about Khaled's political views about something that's very personal, involving his own family. Was just crossing a line. But Nathan is like Dean....both are unpleasant twat bags.

Redway 02-11-2024 02:18 AM

Seriously, that comment about Palestine was below the belt. No wonder Khaled’s a bit pissed.

GoldHeart 02-11-2024 02:25 AM

We're never going to see the old BP , she has no personality , she just sits makign silly facial expressions glued to Nathan. As he grabs her head .

Beso 02-11-2024 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11556078)
We're never going to see the old BP , she has no personality , she just sits makign silly facial expressions glued to Nathan. As he grabs her head .


Tbf thats all she did before hooking up.

GoldHeart 02-11-2024 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11556081)
Tbf thats all she did before hooking up.


Yeah but I think she acts alot more dense, silly and boring with Nathan, when she's around Sarah... like in the secret mission (granted it was a terrible mission), i think it did her good to be around someone else for a bit .

Her OTT facial expressions and goofy voice and Nathan is grabbing her for a kiss, is what she's memorable for now. and it's all a bit cringe.

Redway 02-11-2024 04:41 AM

Reddit seems to have the right measure of this privileged idiot.

Mystic Mock 02-11-2024 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redway (Post 11556070)
Seriously, that comment about Palestine was below the belt. No wonder Khaled’s a bit pissed.

I can't blame Khaled for feeling that way either tbh.

Redway 02-11-2024 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11556131)
I can't blame Khaled for feeling that way either tbh.

Very privileged, very naively ignorant, very disrespectful it was. If my thread was clutching at vague political straws when I first made it, it definitely isn’t now. Nathan’s a class-A twat half the time anyway.

Redway 02-11-2024 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11553181)
Worried about what? That someone we'll never meet might believe in smaller state and lower taxes?

The horror!


(I'm ignoring the poll because the options you give are always the "worst take" view of any opinion)

This comment sure aged well.

Like I implied, I knew I was onto something. That Palenstine stuff was beyond out-of-pocket ignorance.

Mystic Mock 02-11-2024 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redway (Post 11556132)
Very privileged, very naively ignorant, very disrespectful it was. If my thread was clutching at vague political straws when I first made it, it definitely isn’t now. Nathan’s a class-A twat half the time anyway.

I think that Nathan is an interesting Housemate personally.

But I do think that he is unpleasant sometimes.

Oliver_W 02-11-2024 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redway (Post 11556134)
This comment sure aged well.

Like I implied, I knew I was onto something. That Palenstine stuff was beyond out-of-pocket ignorance.

He did make himself look a twat, to be fair.

BUT - you can be left wing and think he doesn't go on about Palestine enough :shrug: that particular twattery didn't have anything to do with being right wing.


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