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Benjamin 07-11-2024 09:15 PM

Sarah’s “Stop the Gloats” comment
 
So Sarah said it about Ali, Dean, Segun, Khaled and Thomas during the vampire task.

I understand there was no racial intention there and just not thinking about the word play, but some are calling her racist and Hanah felt she was referring to her group who are POC (even though Sarah wasn’t). Thoughts?

Vanessa 07-11-2024 09:17 PM

She's not racist. She just didn't think about the negative connection to that word.

Niamh. 07-11-2024 09:17 PM

Stop the gloats? How is that racial?

Jordan. 07-11-2024 09:18 PM

It was still a play on a racist comment whoever it was aimed it.

Swan 07-11-2024 09:18 PM

Her life will be made hell now, of course, naturally :bored:

Love winning, as per.

Benjamin 07-11-2024 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11562773)
Stop the gloats? How is that racial?

It was a play on words for the slogan stop the boats. But some (including Hanah) who thought she was saying it about her group (which Hanah referenced as people of colour)

bots 07-11-2024 09:18 PM

stop the boats is not a form of racism, its stopping illegal immigration

Vanessa 07-11-2024 09:19 PM

It was about Hannah gloatng during the vampire task. Badly worded.

Niamh. 07-11-2024 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 11562778)
It was a play on words for the slogan stop the boats. But some (including Hanah) who thought she was saying it about her group (which Hanah referenced as people of colour)

I never heard that slogan before which is why that would mean nothing to.me

Benjamin 07-11-2024 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11562783)
It was about Hannah gloatng during the vampire task. Badly worded.

She was on the same team as Hanah, it was about the vampires as they were gloating.

GoldHeart 07-11-2024 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11562783)
It was about Hannah gloatng during the vampire task. Badly worded.

See this is the confusion, i don't think it was the vampire task.

I think it was when Marcello got HOH, I remember Sarah talking to Emma in the kitchen.... saying she thought Hanah etc was " gloaty" . Emma was agreeing aswell.


Sarah was also a villager so it makes zero sense it being about the vampire task :facepalm: :conf: .

Sarah has foot in mouth disease,and is either lying or has got confused.

It was definitely about when Hanah's group went upstairs to celebrate Marcello as HOH. We never saw Sarah mention a boat joke,so no idea why she dug that hole for herself.

Saph 07-11-2024 09:28 PM

I don’t think Sarah meant it with racial connotations

Just a poor choice of words

BBXX 07-11-2024 09:29 PM

I think BB has been really irresponsible here by not clarifying with Hanah that the gloat remark in the task is separate to the “stop the gloats” comment because one was aimed at her group - a group largely made up of POC and the other was aimed at Vampires, which consisted of mainly white people.

It’s still poorly worded but I think the misunderstanding on who the comment was aimed at should be clarified because it removes the idea it was said towards a group of POC which puts a whole different stance on it.

GoldHeart 07-11-2024 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 11562789)
She was on the same team as Hanah, it was about the vampires as they were gloating.

Still doesn't make sense , as the comment was specifically about Hanah. If you watch it back.... you'll see . Hence why it has to be the HOH / Marcello thing :shrug: .

Sarah has basically got herself into trouble ,when I don't even think she said anything about boats to Nathan. Very weird :conf:.

thesheriff443 07-11-2024 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 11562789)
She was on the same team as Hanah, it was about the vampires as they were gloating.

I know Hanah was a migrant and I think Segun was one two so I think that’s why they have got offended

BBXX 07-11-2024 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11562806)
See this is the confusion, i don't think it was the vampire task.

I think it was when Marcello got HOH, I remember Sarah talking to Emma in the kitchen.... saying she thought Hanah etc was " gloaty" . Emma was agreeing aswell.


Sarah was also a villager so it makes zero sense it being about the vampire task :facepalm: :conf: .

Sarah has foot in mouth disease,and is either lying or has got confused.

It was definitely about when Hanah's group went upstairs to celebrate Marcello as HOH. We never saw Sarah mention a boat joke,so no idea why she dug that hole for herself.

The “gloaty” comment mentioned in the task was said about Hanah’s group.

The stop the gloats was said about the Vampires. I think Sarah assumed that is what they were referring to.

Benjamin 07-11-2024 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11562812)
Still doesn't make sense , as the comment was specifically about Hanah. If you watch it back.... you'll see . Hence why it has to be the HOH / Marcello thing :shrug: .

Sarah has basically got herself into trouble ,when I don't even think she said anything about boats to Nathan. Very weird :conf:.

No Sarah got confused. She did call Hannah gloaty. But she also said stop the gloats during the vampire task and seems to think that’s what they were referring to. Ajay explained it on L&L.

Saph 07-11-2024 09:30 PM

Remember when Caroline called Adam a gorilla

MTVN 07-11-2024 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Saph (Post 11562817)
Remember when Caroline called Adam a gorilla

:skull:

Ray. 07-11-2024 09:32 PM

I wasn't able to watch the show tonight, so maybe I'm a little premature in saying this, but just on the face of it, it seems rather reaching to call it racial at all. Especially if the context is that the other participants, who are majority white, were gloating.

To my mind, you'd have to be thinking about the migrant crisis 24/7 to make the connection between her comment and the stop the boats slogan.

Niamh. 07-11-2024 09:32 PM

How did that even come up now if it happened ages ago? (Sorry not watch l&l)

thesheriff443 07-11-2024 09:32 PM

What was the girls name that got removed for using the n word

Niamh. 07-11-2024 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 11562821)
What was the gil
Rls name that got removed for using the n word

Emily

Benjamin 07-11-2024 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11562820)
How did that even come up now if it happened ages ago? (Sorry not watch l&l)

Sarah got confused and she inadvertently made herself look racist when she wasn’t as there were two separate convos now mixed up into one.

thesheriff443 07-11-2024 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11562822)
Emily

That her got woken up to be removed

GoldHeart 07-11-2024 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 11562816)
No Sarah got confused. She did call Hannah gloaty. But she also said stop the gloats during the vampire task and seems to think that’s what they were referring to. Ajay explained it on L&L.

AHH I see
Oh what a mess of misunderstandings , Sarah shouldn't have mentioned the word play thing.

Ray. 07-11-2024 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 11562823)
Sarah got confused and she inadvertently made herself look racist when she wasn’t as there were two separate convos now mixed up into one.

Oh so she herself made the connection between the comment and the slogan? :hehe: Yikes that's bad for her. Still, the fact that she mistakenly voiced the connection aloud with no provocation shows to any right thinking person that it wasn't racial in its intent. Sadly, most people don't think sensibly or logically when even a sniff of racial subject matter enters the convo...

rusticgal 07-11-2024 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray. (Post 11562847)
Oh so she herself made the connection between the comment and the slogan? :hehe: Yikes that's bad for her. Still, the fact that she mistakenly voiced the connection aloud with no provocation shows to any right thinking person that it wasn't racial in its intent. Sadly, most people don't think sensibly or logically when even a sniff of racial subject matter enters the convo...


I couldn’t have said that better..

Ammi 07-11-2024 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray. (Post 11562847)
Oh so she herself made the connection between the comment and the slogan? :hehe: Yikes that's bad for her. Still, the fact that she mistakenly voiced the connection aloud with no provocation shows to any right thinking person that it wasn't racial in its intent. Sadly, most people don't think sensibly or logically when even a sniff of racial subject matter enters the convo...

…yeah I think she did link it to Hanah and said that she’d made the pun based on stop the boats in calling Hanah gloaty…I mean the fact that she kind of pressed that explanation of it would surely indicate in itself the lack of intent…

Niamh. 07-11-2024 09:55 PM

Oh OK just seen that part now. It did sound bad tbf I can see why Hanah was upset

Swan 07-11-2024 09:56 PM

She also "body shammed a 20 year old girl" :bored:

Time for me to put twitter down for the evening

Ammi 07-11-2024 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11562861)
Oh OK just seen that part now. It did sound bad tbf I can see why Hanah was upset

…I thought that Hanah handled it all ok, actually…(…it felt as if…)…she and maybe Segun had not confronted or anything but might have gone to the DR to chat with BB…and they called in Sarah…

GoldHeart 07-11-2024 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11562861)
Oh OK just seen that part now. It did sound bad tbf I can see why Hanah was upset

Yeah tbh I found it weird & a little cringe how her verbal diarrhoea let her down, if she's instantly linking " stop the boats / gloats " joke with Hanah .. it's not good. Even if she didn't mean it that way.

But like I said she was mixing up the comment with an entirely different situation. It wasn't even about the vampire task ...but she assumed it was :rolleyes: .

Mystic Mock 07-11-2024 10:00 PM

She meant it as a joke.

BB are being ridiculous.

GoldHeart 07-11-2024 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swan (Post 11562862)
She also "body shammed a 20 year old girl" :bored:

Time for me to put twitter down for the evening

I can't wait for Lily to go tomorrow,if she is saved after tonight's HL ...I think I'll actually feel physically sick . she's pushed it far too much now ,with the constant selfish behaviour & loud unhinged screaming and childish act .

No way I could live with someone that grotesque and obnoxious.

Mystic Mock 07-11-2024 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 11562775)
It was still a play on a racist comment whoever it was aimed it.

Which legally is allowed.

Jokes are not meant to be policed in the UK.

Swan 07-11-2024 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11562876)
I can't wait for Lily to go tomorrow,if she is saved after tonight's HL ...I think I'll actually feel physically sick . she's pushed it far too much now ,with the constant selfish behaviour & loud unhinged screaming and childish act .

No way I could live with someone that grotesque and obnoxious.

I 100% agree with you. She actually makes my blood boil, its unhealthy :joker:

Mystic Mock 07-11-2024 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saph (Post 11562817)
Remember when Caroline called Adam a gorilla

That really was racist.

GoldHeart 07-11-2024 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11562877)
Which legally is allowed.

Jokes are not meant to be policed in the UK.

Mock she dug herself a hole ,the comment was the wrong comment and situation .. that's the problem aswell. She thought it was about the vampire task ,but it was about Hanah and her group after Marcello won HOH, both herself and Emma called Hanah's group " gloaty" . But it looks as if she's aiming it at Hanah, which is why she probably shouldn't have mentioned the boat comment / joke.

Huge misunderstanding,and foot in mouth disease. funny thing is ...I don't even remember her saying " stop the gloats" in the vampire task. I think she's ended up getting herself in trouble for a joke she probably never said, I think she was trying to do a Nathan joke .

Benjamin 07-11-2024 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 11562775)
It was still a play on a racist comment whoever it was aimed it.

Stop the boats isn’t racist.

Her word play at best was in bad taste.

The reason it’s blown up is because Hanah thought Sarah was saying it about her core group (which she wasn’t).


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