Members of Glasgow pedo gang guilty of running "monstrous" sex ring
 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news....-ring-13008082


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Yes I think LT posted them
on the Scottish Politics thread


Lock them Up.


Evil.


They were on all the news today

media are loving splashing these pictures everywhere.

Scottish politics thread? Have you got the link please?

True

Tuesday 14 November 2023

2 years ago??

Vile beasts got sentenced today.

Hard to watch video from sky.

https://youtu.be/1JMAYoXf-PI?si=1A8TxiA0zCN0oen0

I can't say I agree with the death penalty, but I wouldn't care about this scum being shanked.

You know its coming..

Is there a woman in that picture?:shocked:

I will be careful with what I'm about to say, as I nearly said something that might've got me in trouble on here.

There were two or three women involved...

Some of the others in that picture were women?:shocked:

:joker:

There are more than just those six!

Oh.

That's horrible to think about.

I swear that Paedophiles come the closest in recent times for me to champion for the Death Penalty.

I don't actually want it back (although I did have a different opinion years ago,) but Child Molesters to be exact really push my limit.

Not to bring things back to Tommy Robbo land, but it is worth pointing out that this gang will have been much larger than these individuals, there will be many of these gangs in Glasgow, and many more all across the UK. The issue, disgustingly, is RIFE - and while yes there is an issue in some towns specifically with Pakistani grooming gangs, focussing too heavily on that part of it has the side-effect of people mistakenly believing that it's "just those immigrant blokes from other cultures" who are the problem and the focus becomes only that ... ... distracting from the fact that most of these gangs are, at the very least, made up of all sorts of people. All races, all social classes. The profile of the gang will more likely align with the population of the area more than anything else - clear example here. It's Glasgow, and the gang members are (let's just be frank here) white junkies.

Always been part of my point really - I'd never argue that asian grooming gangs aren't a problem or shouldn't have been tackled sooner, it's just that it's the tip of a massive iceberg that has nothing to do with race issues. These gangs are everywhere. There is no clear "profile". That is the scandal... the scale of it is huge.

If it's not race issues then why do the pakistani grooming gangs only target white kids?

Why do people think because there are white grooming gangs, that cancels out the Pakistani gangs? It's a deep, profound misunderstanding of what's gone on and whataboutery at it's finest. In my view they should all be put out of their misery.

I'm not saying that there aren't cultural issues within those specific gangs, I'll quote my own post from previous thread on this even;

I do understand that mechanism.

And my point also isn't that the existence of other grooming gangs "cancels out" the existence of Pakistani grooming gangs or makes that issue in itself any less important or any less in need of tackling; my point is that public chatter (and media coverage) only talking about those as examples leads a lot of people who aren't aware of the scale of the problem, to be blind to the whole problem, when 90% of grooming gangs (and 99% of sex trafficking and sexual exploitation) is not a race issue. Should every one of those grooming gangs be wiped from the face of the planet - absolutely. Would achieving that end the problem - no, it would only be a small gain in something much bigger.

We only have so much in terms of resources, so the focus CAN'T be on one specific "type" of child sexual exploitation and firing every available resource at that one problem, and reporting on it in a way that makes it sound like that's the bigger problem or the biggest "part" of the overall problem.

People at this point are very aware of things like Rotherham, but are still shocked (or simply don't believe it) when they discover that these sorts of things are happening absolutely everywhere, and because people aren't aware of that, they aren't looking out for it happening on their doorstep. "There's no Pakistani grooming gangs in my village we'd have noticed" - sure very good - would you have noticed if there's one being run by Bob next door and Ted three doors down? Because it's far less unlikely than people think. Horribly.

Do you think it could be argued that the constant mentioning of paedophillia on the news in modern times and the avenues, such as gaming etc that offer an adult contact with a child may actually draw people towards it, who wouldn't have given it a 2nd thought without these prompts?

How do you mean? Like make people who aren't paedophiles into paedophiles? No, I would seriously doubt that

Like a lot about paedophillia is the adult becoming infatuated with the child, and with ever increasing avenues for adults to have contact with children then the chances of an adult becoming infatuated with a child has increased ten fold in recent memory.

we are all kidding ourselves. These gangs have been around forever. There are so many of them that the problem will never be resolved. All that is happening is that the stupid ones, that think their untouchable have been thrown to the wolves in order to protect the other gangs that continue as usual

I would definitely doubt that anyone could be "tempted into being a rapist/paedophile" by hearing about paedophilia.

I suppose there might be some element of truth in saying that a heavy media focus on their existence could result in people seeking them out. I don't know that there's any evidence of that though (as in, I don't know if anyone ever tried to evidence that link).

I do know that there's often an assumption that if the general public isn't being informed and updated constantly about things like this, then that means "nothing is being done", when that often isn't the case and in fact too much public scrutiny can end up damaging ongoing investigations. "Everyone talking about it" doesn't end these groups, it pushes them further under-ground and makes them focus even more on covering their tracks, which makes them even harder to bust. Why anyone believes that average folks on the street being kept informed about investigations into sex trafficking would be of any benefit whatsoever to those investigations, I do not know. But really I think it's just that people firmly believe that they have a "right to be kept informed" either way, even if it's a detriment.

An adult becoming infatuated with a child hasn't "turned into" a paedophile... they were already a paedophile.

Yeah, I think the online world has made access to children easier for paedophiles for sure and I think paedophiles will always seek out ways, loopholes, careers that give them easier access to children but I don't think people are turned into paedophiles just from being around children

Just look at these people involved in this case though.

Are we to believe all these people had paedophille thoughts before they all realised they were the same..or did some only realise once surrounded by the others involved.

Birds of a feather I guess, these kinds of people tend to gravitate towards each other

But it's not really a discussion you would have though is it..

Hey. Hi. Are you a paedo? Yes, yes I am.

Ok do you mind if I hang out with you?


I mean, how on earth would you start that conversation.

I would imagine it starts out more subtlety than that

:shrug:


Anyway...thanks for the read today on many topics everyone. Very interesting viewpoints. Much appreciated.

Online/Darkweb groups mostly these days, I would think.

I do wonder how many Paedophiles are really out there in the world?

Because it feels like there's an awful lot that get caught by law enforcement, and normally the number is significantly higher for any criminal offense when you factor in the people that get away with it.

I know that I'm being hyperbolic when I say this, but it does feel like Paedophiles are everywhere in society.

I don't think that's the case.

I'm no expert on the topic, but I would imagine that Paedophiles end up becoming what they become through experiences during their childhood.

It's like how rapists and murderers sometimes team up with each other.

Some people are just sadistic, and they end up finding likeminded people.

it's like how huw edwards, pete townsend and Gary glitter did it. Townsend got caught on the dark net "doing research" on child porn sites and so it goes on.

If you have an obsession with something, you find a way of satisfying that. That will lead you to groups of similarly thinking people, because they all have the same obsession

…because of the recent story, it also makes me think of the mass rape of Gisele Pelicot and the site that the men who raped her gathered on…in the court they’d said that there was consent from the husband so for them, it hadn’t been rape…?…but it was also revealed of the ‘key words and phrases’ that led them to what they did…’without her consent’ was a phrase that was used and obviously drew them in so how could they plead an ignorance to rape…I read that there was a journalist who joined that same site as a 15yr old girl and they were flooded with sexual content messages…I would say that these sites exist because of the people who exist who are drawn to them and when one closes down, which the one used in the Pelicot case did…?…there will always be another, sadly…

Its impossible to even guess at the number unfortunately because simply put, many paedophiles will never act on it, or even look up child porn, and will likely never even tell those closest to them. And that's why any attempt to "normalise" it in society is a huge problem. The horrible reality is that if it was socially acceptable and legal there would be a lot more.

Going back to your surprise there were women involved; they probably played a similar role to Ghillin Maxwell to Epstein, Amanda Palmer to Neil Gaiman, and god knows how many cases in Hollywood.


* allegedly, allegedly, wait for court outcomes, etc etc.

That would make sense tbf.

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