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Ammi 28-04-2025 12:24 PM

Spain and Portugal experiencing major unexplained electricity blackout…
 
Huge swathes of Spain and Portugal have reportedly been hit with power outages that have seen airports and metro systems shut down, mobile phone signal fail, and electricity out.

There has been no explanation as yet for the power outages - which have affected Barcelona, Madrid, Valencia and Seville in Spain, as well as Lisbon in Portugal. Spanish media also reported the issue affecting areas in France.

Spain's powergrid company Red Electrica said it is working to solve the problem, but there has been no indication of what caused the widespread blackout.

In Valencia, the metro suspended its services, while parts of the underground in Madrid were evacuated following the blackout. The power cuts have apparently also seen traffic chaos across the country, with traffic lights no longer working.

The live blog can be followed…

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/live/spain...113612434.html

Nicky91 28-04-2025 12:57 PM

in Spain they are reporting it gradually is being restored as we speak



they can't rule out a cyber attack, but they can't also confirm it being a cyber attack, so a thorough investigation will be required



one of my province's radio DJ's Maarten Kortlever is currently on holiday in Barcelona, he managed to keep us informed with a mobile cellphone with him over the phone with Omroep Brabant live on the radio

Cherie 28-04-2025 01:17 PM

and this is why you should always have a battery radio as old fashioned as it might sound, as the mobile signals was not working for many ...and some bottled water as there was no water coming from the taps

its defo a cyber attack, this could roll out across Europe

arista 28-04-2025 01:22 PM

"its defo a cyber attack,"

Yes, the reason
No one is saying why?

Nicky91 28-04-2025 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11640290)
and this is why you should always have a battery radio as old fashioned as it might sound, as the mobile signals was not working for many ...and some bottled water as there was no water coming from the taps

its defo a cyber attack, this could roll out across Europe

no fearmongering pls :nono:


spontaneous outages can occur, even without cyber attacks


here where i live, we not too long ago, last month



our power company Enexis says this can also happen more often due to our changing climate, more extremes in the weather in terms of warm weather or stormy weather

arista 28-04-2025 01:25 PM

Affected the Live Tennis
as No Cameras had power.

SkyNewsHD showed
Public in a Railway tunnel

That looked terrible

arista 28-04-2025 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 11640299)
no fearmongering pls :nono:


spontaneous outages can occur, even without cyber attacks


here where i live, we not too long ago, last month



our power company Enexis says this can also happen more often due to our changing climate, more extremes in the weather in terms of warm weather or stormy weather


Nicky, it is a Valid Comment
from Wise Cherie

As by now they would say why it has gone on

Nicky91 28-04-2025 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11640301)
Nicky, it is a Valid Comment
from Wise Cherie

As by now they would say why it has gone on

no?

since they are working hard to also fix this problem, while also investigating, they haven't got the time to inform us then

arista 28-04-2025 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 11640303)
no?

since they are working hard to also fix this problem, while also investigating, they haven't got the time to inform us then



I do hope you update us
It is more close to your flat nation

Nicky91 28-04-2025 01:45 PM

could be because Spain, Portugal and southern France use each other's power


so if there is a problem, all these might be affected, like now





my nation Netherlands for example distributes and uses power also from Belgium and Germany



and it is commonly known Spain, Portugal, parts of France (mostly southern france) work together in terms of power, which is cheaper that way

Jessica. 28-04-2025 01:51 PM

It's an extremely hot day too, we just did the big food shop on Saturday, I'm worried about it all being wasted. Also don't know how I'll sort the baby's dinner.

Nicky91 28-04-2025 01:51 PM

problems in France have been restored to normal


and the french have offered Spain for assistance in restoring their power to normal as well

Nicky91 28-04-2025 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jessica. (Post 11640312)
It's an extremely hot day too, we just did the big food shop on Saturday, I'm worried about it all being wasted. Also don't know how I'll sort the baby's dinner.

as long as you kept the fridge and freezer closed it should remain cool inside for quite some time though?

the more you open them, the more it can get warmer in there

arista 28-04-2025 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jessica. (Post 11640312)
It's an extremely hot day too, we just did the big food shop on Saturday, I'm worried about it all being wasted. Also don't know how I'll sort the baby's dinner.


Yes great post
from there.

I hate Power Cuts
Have radios ready for those times

Jessica. 28-04-2025 01:59 PM

People are rushing to supermarkets buying all the water and canned foods

People are fighting at gas pumps to fill their car before anyone else

I have put three ice packs in my fridge because I had to open it anyway.

arista 28-04-2025 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jessica. (Post 11640317)
People are rushing to supermarkets buying all the water and canned foods

People are fighting at gas pumps to fill their car before anyone else

I have put three ice packs in my fridge because I had to open it anyway.


Yes, I would be there
if I was in your nation


I feel sorry
for those in the underground railway tunnel

Jessica. 28-04-2025 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11640319)
Yes, I would be there
if I was in your nation


I feel sorry
for those in the underground railway tunnel

We already have 24 litres of bottled water but I don't think panicking is a good idea. My internet is getting spotty.

Crimson Dynamo 28-04-2025 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jessica. (Post 11640312)
It's an extremely hot day too, we just did the big food shop on Saturday, I'm worried about it all being wasted. Also don't know how I'll sort the baby's dinner.

27C today but much cooler 17 C tomorrow

Ammi 28-04-2025 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jessica. (Post 11640317)
People are rushing to supermarkets buying all the water and canned foods

People are fighting at gas pumps to fill their car before anyone else

I have put three ice packs in my fridge because I had to open it anyway.

…:hug:…it’s now being reported to be a 'Rare atmospheric phenomenon' that’s causing the outages…Portugal’s PM Luis Montenegro has said they will try to restore the situation in the next hours, and expect a resolution today…

Jessica. 28-04-2025 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11640342)
…:hug:…it’s now being reported to be a 'Rare atmospheric phenomenon' that’s causing the outages…Portugal’s PM Luis Montenegro has said they will try to restore the situation in the next hours, and expect a resolution today…

I really hope so!

Beso 28-04-2025 03:28 PM

Aliens or AI.

Cherie 28-04-2025 03:31 PM

A rare atmospheric problem that affected 3 countries, I am not normally a conspiracy theorist but we were also told the LA Fire were due to climate change until they weren't .....sure as hell not going to tell us its a cyber attack, coming hot on the heels of the fire that put Heathrow out of action a few months back I have my doubts


and yes Jess unfortunately people will panic buy and do stupid stuff

bots 28-04-2025 03:39 PM

being without power in a hot country is a nightmare. On top of the usual stuff, you have no aircon or fans either, making life extremely uncomfortable. It's very unusual for an entire country to suffer a power failure, let alone 2 or 3 so i would definitely say it was a malicious attack

Nicky91 28-04-2025 04:10 PM

like i said, Portugal and Southern France are also on the same power grid as Spain


what is unusual though is that France has their power restored, although maybe they can also use power from the french based energy suppliers :think:



i think i believe the atmospherical phenomenon more than a possible cyber attack, and good on Portugal's energy provider REN that they did their own investigation, considering this also concerns them very much

Nicky91 28-04-2025 04:13 PM

of course you are not a conspiracy theorist @Cherie

and i understand why this is very suspicious


Quote:

due to "temperature variations in Spain"
.

Cherie 28-04-2025 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 11640377)
of course you are not a conspiracy theorist @Cherie

and i understand why this is very suspicious



.

Thank you Nicky :laugh:

arista 28-04-2025 04:15 PM

Yes
Some were stranded on a train
in the middle, no place near them.


Simon Calder told LBC news

arista 28-04-2025 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11640354)
Aliens or AI.


No
Overground cables - Again


["Anomalous Oscillations" in extremely high-voltage lines.]


Oscillating Electric Friction

arista 28-04-2025 04:19 PM

This is why the UK should Learn to do
underground Electric Cables
safer

Nicky91 28-04-2025 04:22 PM

one good thing, the people will be compensated most likely, as it cannot take longer than 4 hours without power, longer than that you receive compensations, at least that is how it goes in my nation with similar crisisses like these

Cherie 28-04-2025 04:55 PM

Some towns in Ireland were without power for a week after Storm Eoghan dont think they got any compo

The Spanish PM says he does not know what has caused this?

Cherie 28-04-2025 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11640383)
This is why the UK should Learn to do
underground Electric Cables
safer

Yes if they are going with the weather causing this, this give campaigners something to fight on

arista 28-04-2025 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11640407)
Yes if they are going with the weather causing this, this give campaigners something to fight on


Yes in the UK loads are fighting
Even in Wales
all would prefer, underground, safer
Electricity Supply.

arista 28-04-2025 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11640405)
Some towns in Ireland were without power for a week after Storm Eoghan dont think they got any compo

The Spanish PM says he does not know what has caused this?


I think by now, he does

Benjamin 28-04-2025 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jessica. (Post 11640317)
People are rushing to supermarkets buying all the water and canned foods

People are fighting at gas pumps to fill their car before anyone else

I have put three ice packs in my fridge because I had to open it anyway.

People clearly learnt nothing from Covid times.

Crimson Dynamo 28-04-2025 05:28 PM

REN said that as a result of extreme temperature variations in Spain, there were
"anomalous oscillations" in extremely high-voltage lines. REN said this is known as
"induced atmospheric variation," which in turn can lead to oscillations. This caused
synchronization failures between systems, leading to successive disturbances across the
European network, which is interconnected.

-----------

Temperature variation in Spain today 10 C from hottest to coolest

this sounds like BS

(and why you would always keep actual cash handy)

Cherie 28-04-2025 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11640414)
I think by now, he does

He is holding an emergency meeting and still saying he doesn't know what caused it

bots 28-04-2025 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo (Post 11640426)
REN said that as a result of extreme temperature variations in Spain, there were
"anomalous oscillations" in extremely high-voltage lines. REN said this is known as
"induced atmospheric variation," which in turn can lead to oscillations. This caused
synchronization failures between systems, leading to successive disturbances across the
European network, which is interconnected.

-----------

Temperature variation in Spain today 10 C from hottest to coolest

this sounds like BS

(and why you would always keep actual cash handy)

it is BS, there is no way they could conclude an investigation on a power failure that affected the whole country on the same day it happened. Particularly when they are spouting bollocks about temperature gradients. Go to the beach on the costas and compare against Barcelona or any mountainous region and there are always large temperature gradients. Spain is a massive country

arista 28-04-2025 06:25 PM

From Ch4HDnews Live

Extreme Heat
It caused the Overhead Cables to Bounce
and because of that extreme danger
it shut down all power.

(California Fires had something like that)


This is why the UK is Crazy doing it Up High

Vanessa 28-04-2025 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11640480)
From Ch4HDnews Live

Extreme Heat
It caused the Overhead Cables to Bounce
and because of that extreme danger
it shut down all power.

(California Fires had something like that)


This is why the UK is Crazy doing it Up High

But we don't have extreme heat here in the UK.


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