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Ammi 24-05-2025 07:11 AM

Woman arrested after 17 injured in German knife attack…
 
A woman has been arrested after 17 people were injured in a knife attack in Hamburg on Friday.

A German police spokesman confirmed that officers had arrested a 39-year-old woman in connection with the attack, which happened at Hamburg Central station, and are not seeking other suspects.

Footage posted on social media showed a caucasian woman, wearing a hoodie and tracksuit bottoms, being arrested and led away from the scene by police.

According to Hamburg’s fire brigade, three people sustained life-threatening injuries and three others were seriously hurt. Six suffered minor injuries.

The attack happened during evening rush hour, at around 6.05pm local time, in between platforms 13 and 14 at the railway station.

German media reported that bloodstains could be seen on the ground and that some victims were given medical treatment on trains. Photographs showed one man being treated on the platform, while another showed a man being taken away on a stretcher.

Traffic at the station had been suspended on Friday evening, with a cordon set up around the scene of the attack.


The motivation behind the attack is currently unclear. Germany suffered a series of knife and car-ramming terror attacks in the run-up to the February federal elections.

In March, two people were killed after a man with mental illness crashed his car into a crowd of people in the western city of Mannheim. Several others were injured.

The previous month, in Munich, a rejected Afghan asylum seeker had driven his car into a trade union demonstration in central Munich the day before the annual Munich Security Conference.

Germany also suffered a serious knife attack in January in Aschaffenburg, Bavaria, where an Afghan asylum seeker stabbed a two-year-old to death in a park.

In December, a Saudi man drove his car at crowds at a Christmas market in the central city of Magdeburg, having driven through a gap in the security barriers. Six people were killed and nearly 300 injured.

Last August, in the western German city of Solingen, a Syrian asylum seeker stabbed three people to death and injured eight others during a festival celebrating diversity.

While the nationality of the suspect in Hamburg was not immediately clear, tensions have risen in Germany over the surge in attacks committed by foreigners.

The far-Right, anti-migrant Alternative for Germany party secured an unprecedented 20 per cent of the vote after February’s federal elections, making it the de facto opposition in parliament.

Ammi 24-05-2025 07:14 AM

…a woman acting alone in such an attack is something that’s much more rare …

Mystic Mock 24-05-2025 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11650755)
A woman has been arrested after 17 people were injured in a knife attack in Hamburg on Friday.

A German police spokesman confirmed that officers had arrested a 39-year-old woman in connection with the attack, which happened at Hamburg Central station, and are not seeking other suspects.

Footage posted on social media showed a caucasian woman, wearing a hoodie and tracksuit bottoms, being arrested and led away from the scene by police.

According to Hamburg’s fire brigade, three people sustained life-threatening injuries and three others were seriously hurt. Six suffered minor injuries.

The attack happened during evening rush hour, at around 6.05pm local time, in between platforms 13 and 14 at the railway station.

German media reported that bloodstains could be seen on the ground and that some victims were given medical treatment on trains. Photographs showed one man being treated on the platform, while another showed a man being taken away on a stretcher.

Traffic at the station had been suspended on Friday evening, with a cordon set up around the scene of the attack.


The motivation behind the attack is currently unclear. Germany suffered a series of knife and car-ramming terror attacks in the run-up to the February federal elections.

In March, two people were killed after a man with mental illness crashed his car into a crowd of people in the western city of Mannheim. Several others were injured.

The previous month, in Munich, a rejected Afghan asylum seeker had driven his car into a trade union demonstration in central Munich the day before the annual Munich Security Conference.

Germany also suffered a serious knife attack in January in Aschaffenburg, Bavaria, where an Afghan asylum seeker stabbed a two-year-old to death in a park.

In December, a Saudi man drove his car at crowds at a Christmas market in the central city of Magdeburg, having driven through a gap in the security barriers. Six people were killed and nearly 300 injured.

Last August, in the western German city of Solingen, a Syrian asylum seeker stabbed three people to death and injured eight others during a festival celebrating diversity.

While the nationality of the suspect in Hamburg was not immediately clear, tensions have risen in Germany over the surge in attacks committed by foreigners.

The far-Right, anti-migrant Alternative for Germany party secured an unprecedented 20 per cent of the vote after February’s federal elections, making it the de facto opposition in parliament.

No, Germany.:nono:

We all know what happened the last time you went Far Right.

Mystic Mock 24-05-2025 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11650756)
…a woman acting alone in such an attack is something that’s much more rare …

Rare doesn't mean impossible though.

Cherie 24-05-2025 09:29 AM

She hurt alot of people before she was detained,

Ammi 24-05-2025 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11650819)
Rare doesn't mean impossible though.

…yeah for sure, Mock…much more rare means much more rare…

Livia 24-05-2025 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11650818)
No, Germany.:nono:

We all know what happened the last time you went Far Right.

Angela Merkel let in a million refugees in a single year. My German friends say their local towns have changed beyond recognition, crime has risen and their daughters are not allowed out alone. If they say anything, they're racist. A woman stabs multiple people in Hamburg and no description of her is released, remember the problems that caused in Southport? Of course people are going to turn to the far right, they're the only parties listening to people while their countries, their cultures and their taxes are given away.

Liam- 24-05-2025 10:22 AM

A violent woman? It won’t be long before it’s somehow a man’s fault

Mystic Mock 24-05-2025 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11650831)
…yeah for sure, Mock…much more rare means much more rare…

It does indeed.

Mystic Mock 24-05-2025 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11650855)
Angela Merkel let in a million refugees in a single year. My German friends say their local towns have changed beyond recognition, crime has risen and their daughters are not allowed out alone. If they say anything, they're racist. A woman stabs multiple people in Hamburg and no description of her is released, remember the problems that caused in Southport? Of course people are going to turn to the far right, they're the only parties listening to people while their countries, their cultures and their taxes are given away.

I just don't think that the best way to respond to Far Left ideology is to go Far Right.

But I get that I'm in the minority with that opinion.

Ninastar 25-05-2025 12:03 AM

I wonder if she was on drugs. For a woman to be able to fight and stab that many people and no one was able to take her down?

Livia 25-05-2025 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11651072)
I just don't think that the best way to respond to Far Left ideology is to go Far Right.

But I get that I'm in the minority with that opinion.

What do you think is the best way? For decades, people with concerns about the amount of immigrants landing here have been silenced. No one's been able to have a sensible conversation for fear of being labelled a racist. I come from Newham, the first borough in the country to consist of more immigrants than indigenous people. It was always multicultural because of the docks, but the numbers just went up and up.... no one could say anything so white people who could afford to, left. The same will happen to the country as a whole unless something happens to stop it and the only ones listening are on the Right.

Zizu 25-05-2025 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninastar (Post 11651095)
I wonder if she was on drugs. For a woman to be able to fight and stab that many people and no one was able to take her down?


In my world she would never see the light of day .. if I was feeling generous


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Cherie 25-05-2025 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11650861)
A violent woman? It won’t be long before it’s somehow a man’s fault

When has that ever been said, perhaps you can point out the many posts blaming men for female violence that has led you down this path

Mystic Mock 25-05-2025 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11651219)
What do you think is the best way? For decades, people with concerns about the amount of immigrants landing here have been silenced. No one's been able to have a sensible conversation for fear of being labelled a racist. I come from Newham, the first borough in the country to consist of more immigrants than indigenous people. It was always multicultural because of the docks, but the numbers just went up and up.... no one could say anything so white people who could afford to, left. The same will happen to the country as a whole unless something happens to stop it and the only ones listening are on the Right.

I think that there's nothing wrong with going a more moderate Right.

I do worry when I see parties like Reform growing in popularity though, because they do seem (to me) to want to bring a more American Right to the table.

joeysteele 25-05-2025 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11650818)
No, Germany.:nono:

We all know what happened the last time you went Far Right.

Wise thinking there in my view from you.
We do indeed know, or we should, plus it seems it may happen again and elsewhere too, even here

As to this horrific incident however, it needs to have more information revealed as to the madness of this act.
Or from what thinking it may have originated from.

It is all just going crazy.
Whether politically, or individually with the growing lack of tolerance, reasoning and respect between AND FOR other human beings.

Livia 25-05-2025 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11651254)
I think that there's nothing wrong with going a more moderate Right.

I do worry when I see parties like Reform growing in popularity though, because they do seem (to me) to want to bring a more American Right to the table.

I don't see it like that. We need to protect our own borders and care for the British people, and by that I mean everyone who is a British subject, wherever they originated. I don't see that as far right nor American Republican. Labour and the Tories have nothing but contempt for this country.

Livia 25-05-2025 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11651261)
Wise thinking there in my view from you.
We do indeed know, or we should, plus it seems it may happen again and elsewhere too, even here

As to this horrific incident however, it needs to have more information revealed as to the madness of this act.
Or from what thinking it may have originated from.

It is all just going crazy.
Whether politically, or individually with the growing lack of tolerance, reasoning and respect between AND FOR other human beings.

I have respect for other human beings. That doesn't mean we should accept a million of them every year to come and live here, and certainly not those who arrive illegally.

Barry. 25-05-2025 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11650756)
…a woman acting alone in such an attack is something that’s much more rare …

Thought that too. It usually male.

Nicky91 25-05-2025 04:27 PM

i reckon this woman is among those deluded mentally unwell idiots in the country who support Israel too


also quite rare indeed seeing one woman pulling off a knife attack like this




sad this to be happening in Hamburg right now either, like that city needs to party regarding them being in the top level of domestic league football not have vile attacks like these :sad:

joeysteele 25-05-2025 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11651254)
I think that there's nothing wrong with going a more moderate Right.

I do worry when I see parties like Reform growing in popularity though, because they do seem (to me) to want to bring a more American Right to the table.

I see Reform much as you do Mock.

Although in my conversations with some of the Reform supporters I've come,(unfortunately for me), across I see them even more concerning than what you fear.

Nicky91 25-05-2025 04:31 PM

and yes Merkel brought in too many migrants, that is true


but what can you do now, you cannot sent them back, its not that simple anymore for many who have german passports, learned the language, gotten kids who are german born citizens, to deport them back is disrespectful

also very racist tbh, not like there aren't criminals among german people, and that goes for every country their indigenous people (although USA has no right to talk along with this, considering their native people are the indians, whom the british also kinda drove away but they all simply forgot that)

arista 25-05-2025 04:58 PM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/05...8025782188.jpg


They arrested her

I would have pulled her Hood off


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...d-Hamburg.html

Mystic Mock 25-05-2025 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11651263)
I don't see it like that. We need to protect our own borders and care for the British people, and by that I mean everyone who is a British subject, wherever they originated. I don't see that as far right nor American Republican. Labour and the Tories have nothing but contempt for this country.

They want to insure the NHS.

I know that they're publicly backing away for now due to how unpopular the view was.

But it still doesn't change the fact that there are people within the Reform party that would love to change what the NHS stands for in this country.

Mystic Mock 25-05-2025 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11651261)
Wise thinking there in my view from you.
We do indeed know, or we should, plus it seems it may happen again and elsewhere too, even here

As to this horrific incident however, it needs to have more information revealed as to the madness of this act.
Or from what thinking it may have originated from.

It is all just going crazy.
Whether politically, or individually with the growing lack of tolerance, reasoning and respect between AND FOR other human beings.

I 100% agree with you Joey.

Especially with people's growing intolerance towards other people's personal beliefs.

I feel like society is regressing with each day.

To go off-topic for a minute, I've read an article that was talking about adults having a Nappy kink, and loving to piss and **** in the Nappy.:umm2:

My point being that even stuff like that I personally see as a sign of society dropping it's standards for what should be deemed acceptable.

And just to clarify I have an issue with the Nappy kink, not anyone that wears them because of medical reasons.

Mystic Mock 25-05-2025 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11651264)
I have respect for other human beings. That doesn't mean we should accept a million of them every year to come and live here, and certainly not those who arrive illegally.

That's a fair point.

And tbf, you don't seem to be the type of person that would take it to a violent level anyway.

Mystic Mock 25-05-2025 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11651285)
I see Reform much as you do Mock.

Although in my conversations with some of the Reform supporters I've come,(unfortunately for me), across I see them even more concerning than what you fear.

I think tbf to a lot of Reform voters, I think that they're scared because the country is in a really bad way (due to Brexit, COVID etc,) and our two major parties being a shadow of their former selves going from one disaster to the next.

I mean I can't believe these two parties historically have Clement Atlee and Winston Churchill in their parties, and now it's Starmer and Badenoch, who have debates about what they eat for lunch.:umm2:

Unfortunately like with any bad thing that comes to the forefront, we have to blame Labour and Tories as to why people are looking towards Reform, and therefore getting more politically extreme because of it.

I get that there are bad apples within the supporter base (like you've mentioned Joey) but even they have probably become that way due to years of disappointment from our two main parties.

joeysteele 25-05-2025 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11651326)
I think tbf to a lot of Reform voters, I think that they're scared because the country is in a really bad way (due to Brexit, COVID etc,) and our two major parties being a shadow of their former selves going from one disaster to the next.

I mean I can't believe these two parties historically have Clement Atlee and Winston Churchill in their parties, and now it's Starmer and Badenoch, who have debates about what they eat for lunch.:umm2:

Unfortunately like with any bad thing that comes to the forefront, we have to blame Labour and Tories as to why people are looking towards Reform, and therefore getting more politically extreme because of it.

I get that there are bad apples within the supporter base (like you've mentioned Joey) but even they have probably become that way due to years of disappointment from our two main parties.

I agree, the failures of ALL Parties that's been in government because I put the LibDems in there too, for the really bad things they supported during their 5 shared power coalition years in government.

However instead of both Conservative and Labour not standing up to Reform via at present, Labour not having a clue how to play it.
Badenoch with the Conservatives is more just running up Farage's and Reform's backside.

Plus too, there's how to deal with a deranged and unhinged more like lunatic in the USA at present.

However we've had in the last 80 years mainly capitalist, right wing government for nearly 50 of those years.
If right wing policies are the best for the UK, that doesn't show that.
So for me, to even look at a more far right Party like Reform doesn't seem in any shape or form to be a wise choice.
Not that I could myself ever choose Reform, I've had Reform supporters, dead seriously to mine and others faces, tell me, '' the more who drown crossing the channel the better''.
That's sick.
However then, to a challenge that they are human beings too, the next response is, from those Reform supporters that '' they don't see immigrants as PEOPLE, they're just numbers needing to be got rid of''.

Not a chance I myself would ever want to be associated with people like that .
No way at all.
Plus too, I've never liked or trusted Farage.
His misleading in the EU referendum was more than enough to see his faults.

So unless there is a great improvement over the years by this government, or the Conservatives can get a better leader and move back to a more moderate position as to policies with less ugly rhetoric and not just follow Reform.
I haven't a clue where I could now settle politically.

Certainly not the cranky Greens with 2 leaders and policies they never really spell out.
Some of their ideas sound like madness.
Plus the LibDems more seem to just clown around.

Your last paragraph makes depressing reading because it's very valid, insightful and explains a fair bit.
I just cannot see where there's any answers from Farage's Reform.
He blamed the EU, scapegoating the free movement of people from the EU for the UKs ills.
Now we've left and that was stopped.
He cannot blame that any more, so now he's scapegoating not only those in the dinghy's coming over, however other migrants too of those from other Countries and cultures.
His and Reform's more prejudical rhetoric is awful in my view.
It's really sad that voters in the UK feel there's anything much of decency about Farage's Reform.
I just cannot ever and neither would I want to, subscribe to not wanting to more protect and respect other human beings.
I wouldn't want to also scapegoat them and try to whip up distrust and even hate against them divisively just because they're another culture or from other Countries.

I find it very sinister and unnecessarily so too.
That's my view anyway.

Mystic Mock 25-05-2025 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11651345)
I agree, the failures of ALL Parties that's been in government because I put the LibDems in there too, for the really bad things they supported during their 5 shared power coalition years in government.

However instead of both Conservative and Labour not standing up to Reform via at present, Labour not having a clue how to play it.
Badenoch with the Conservatives is more just running up Farage's and Reform's backside.

Plus too, there's how to deal with a deranged and unhinged more like lunatic in the USA at present.

However we've had in the last 80 years mainly capitalist, right wing government for nearly 50 of those years.
If right wing policies are the best for the UK, that doesn't show that.
So for me, to even look at a more far right Party like Reform doesn't seem in any shape or form to be a wise choice.
Not that I could myself ever choose Reform, I've had Reform supporters, dead seriously to mine and others faces, tell me, '' the more who drown crossing the channel the better''.
That's sick.
However then, to a challenge that they are human beings too, the next response is, from those Reform supporters that '' they don't see immigrants as PEOPLE, they're just numbers needing to be got rid of''.

Not a chance I myself would ever want to be associated with people like that .
No way at all.
Plus too, I've never liked or trusted Farage.
His misleading in the EU referendum was more than enough to see his faults.

So unless there is a great improvement over the years by this government, or the Conservatives can get a better leader and move back to a more moderate position as to policies with less ugly rhetoric and not just follow Reform.
I haven't a clue where I could now settle politically.

Certainly not the cranky Greens with 2 leaders and policies they never really spell out.
Some of their ideas sound like madness.
Plus the LibDems more seem to just clown around.

Your last paragraph makes depressing reading because it's very valid, insightful and explains a fair bit.
I just cannot see where there's any answers from Farage's Reform.
He blamed the EU, scapegoating the free movement of people from the EU for the UKs ills.
Now we've left and that was stopped.
He cannot blame that any more, so now he's scapegoating not only those in the dinghy's coming over, however other migrants too of those from other Countries and cultures.
His and Reform's more prejudical rhetoric is awful in my view.
It's really sad that voters in the UK feel there's anything much of decency about Farage's Reform.
I just cannot ever and neither would I want to, subscribe to not wanting to more protect and respect other human beings.
I wouldn't want to also scapegoat them and try to whip up distrust and even hate against them divisively just because they're another culture or from other Countries.

I find it very sinister and unnecessarily so too.
That's my view anyway.

I 100% agree with you on the Lib Dems as they got the ball rolling in our declining years of the country in that coalition with the Tories.

And I personally don't like Farage either, he is manipulating scared people into thinking that he is going to bring the UK back to it's best, but when the one thing he helped contribute to the country (i.e Brexit) has slowly killed our economy over the last decade, it doesn't scream someone that knows how to run this country.

And those particular Reform supporters sound horrible.:umm2:

Ammi 26-05-2025 05:27 AM

…in regards to the original story…I don’t know anything about this source and how reliable and I won’t post the whole article but I’ll give a link to it…I’ll just pick out some of what’s been reported as an update about the attacker….


The 39-year-old woman, who hails from the northern state of Lower Saxony, was released from a psychiatric hospital only the day before the stabbing.

On Sunday a spokeswoman for prosecutors told dpa, the suspect admitted to the act in front of a magistrate.

According to the Lower Saxony ministry, police initiated criminal proceedings against the woman in several cases last year.

"She appeared at police stations several times, showing clear signs of mental illness," a spokesman for the Health Ministry in the state of Lower Saxony said.

Following an incident at the beginning of May this year, a court ordered her to be placed in the Cuxhaven psychiatric hospital, where she received treatment for three weeks.

According to the clinic, the woman was released because there were no medical findings at the time of her discharge to justify further treatment.

Authorities did not comment on the nature of her illness, citing privacy concerns and medical confidentiality. However, before patients are released from a psychiatric ward, doctors have to consider whether they could pose a danger to themselves or others.

Authorities in Lower Saxony say there was no indication that the suspect may have used a knife in previous incidents, nor does she have a firearms licence.

She is accused of 15 cases of attempted manslaughter combined with grievous bodily harm. The charges relate to the people who were directly injured with the knife and suffered cuts or stab wounds of varying severity, according to police.



…attempted manslaughter/not attempted murder…?…so she carried out the attacks the day after she was released from a mental facility and deemed to be not a danger to the public…?..

…full article…

https://www.dw.com/en/hamburg-knife-...ice/a-72665609

Oliver_W 26-05-2025 06:04 AM

How can someone attempt manslaughter? I thought it meant unintended, or at least incidental or consequential, killing?

Mystic Mock 26-05-2025 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11651419)
How can someone attempt manslaughter? I thought it meant unintended, or at least incidental or consequential, killing?

I'm confused as well.

Ammi 26-05-2025 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11651419)
How can someone attempt manslaughter? I thought it meant unintended, or at least incidental or consequential, killing?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11651420)
I'm confused as well.

…I’ve been reading about it and how it’s defined…and (…I think…)…it’s because she’s deemed as mentally unstable therefore ‘clear intent’ can’t be established…I’m guessing that’s what it is in this case anyway…

Mystic Mock 26-05-2025 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11651424)
…I’ve been reading about it and how it’s defined…and (…I think…)…it’s because she’s deemed as mentally unstable therefore ‘clear intent’ can’t be established…I’m guessing that’s what it is in this case anyway…

That makes sense tbf.

Thanks for finding out for us.

Oliver_W 26-05-2025 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11651424)
…I’ve been reading about it and how it’s defined…and (…I think…)…it’s because she’s deemed as mentally unstable therefore ‘clear intent’ can’t be established…I’m guessing that’s what it is in this case anyway…

Surely that just begs a "not guilty by reason of mental disorder" or something?

joeysteele 26-05-2025 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11651424)
…I’ve been reading about it and how it’s defined…and (…I think…)…it’s because she’s deemed as mentally unstable therefore ‘clear intent’ can’t be established…I’m guessing that’s what it is in this case anyway…

That post you presented on her past was incredibly informative.
Devastating though too.

You are right, in the UK, mental conditions can be taken into consideration of charges in such crimes.
It would generally fall under something like:- manslaughter, with the defence of diminished responsibility.

Livia 26-05-2025 12:16 PM

Why are dangerously deranged people walking around free to murder? I see Germany's 'care in the community' scheme is on the same level as ours.

Zizu 26-05-2025 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11651454)
Why are dangerously deranged people walking around free to murder? I see Germany's 'care in the community' scheme is on the same level as ours.


I heard on the grapevine that there are loads of dangerous European criminals( including gang bosses ) safely hiding in Gtr Manchester housing estates !!


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