UK Elections 16-year-olds permitted to Vote
 

Labour trying to stay in power.


https://news.sky.com/story/16-and-17...ction-13397859


https://www.theguardian.com/politics...rthern-ireland

No, they’re trying to give an age range that should have a say in their future the right to have that say, if anything, this would just get more votes for the actual left wing parties so it’s not really beneficial to Labour at all

LoL.... Just remembering how stupid I was at 16, how stupid most people are at 16! A desperate ploy by Starmer.

[The voting age will be lowered to 16 in England
and Northern Ireland by the next general election
in a major change of the democratic system.

The government said it was a reform
to bring in more fairness for 16- and 17-year-olds,
many of whom already work
and are able to serve in the military.
It brings the whole of the UK voting age to 16,
as Scotland and Wales have already
made the change.]


Yes, now the whole of the UK
in the next General Election.

Helping Labour stay in power

Maybe don’t judge everyone by your standards?

ridiculous

desperate by Labour

Its the only way they can hang on to power, given they have alienated anyone who works and is over 30

This is great - if you're old enough to serve in the military you're old enough to vote.

Got to agree with this

16 year olds, while being able to serve in the military, are not allowed on active service until they are 18.

I don't see that as relevant. They're contributing to the running of the British Army and are committing to training.

lol

16 year olds need parental consent to join


will they need to ask their mum to vote labour too?

:laugh:

Oh, we're not letting facts get in the way today lol....

You're right, but I still don't see the relevance, personally. They still can join and work and earn tax. Why shouldn't they have a say in the future? They have far more at stake than a 90 year old who won't be around to see the changes their vote might inflict.

Is there really such a huge difference between a 16 and 18 year old when it comes to political knowledge? I would hazard a guess the way most people will vote at 18 will be the same as 16.

The stats show 73% of of 18-24 year olds intend to vote Labour, Lib Dem or Green. Most 16 year olds will vote in line with the above, and therefore their maturity, or political education, or whatever it is you're pretending is an issue won't make much of a difference to their voting, whether they vote at 16 or at 24.

I would guess it's not the maturity of 16 year olds that bothers you, it's the additional numbers it will add to the above three parties.

LOL... "The stats show..." .

I recall people bending over backwards to defend BB Trish when she was hauled over the coals for comments made in her early 20s......your brain doesn't develop fully until 25 they screeched :laugh:

Given all these 16 years old are apparently going to be thinking about their future its a shame more 18 years olds didnt think of their futures when the Brexit referendum was called :pipe: we might not be where we are now

Yeah, I remember the Brexit outrage on here from people who didn't bother to vote.

Yes looks that way.

Mocking the phrase 'the stats show' without researching the stats first... :skull:

i do think that ages need to be equalised like working, getting married and voting.

In the past i would have said its to favour labour, but I don't think that applies anymore, so it wont have the impact that labour were expecting when they first planned it

Using the term "the stats show" without showing the stats.

Using the term "the stats show" in an attempt to reinforce your point, then expecting others to provide those stats to prove your point.

who will they vote for (if at all)

the batsh1t greens or crazy extreme lib dems?

:umm2:

Not voting is not the same as voting. I would have thought when I refer to how 16 year olds are likely to vote I'm talking about the 16 year olds who are voting, not the ones who don't...

I personally didn't defend Trish, but I think there is a difference between acknowledging someone young ****ed up and suggesting young people should have the right to vote.

Older people **** up too. There are plenty of uneducated idiotic people in every age bracket. Voting isn't based on intelligence level or emotional maturity, really. I personally don't care how 16 years intend to vote, I just think they should be able to.

if Corbyn's party is around, they may vote for it, they may also vote for reform. A lot of young people voted for Trump in the USA

If 16 years is now the age of an adult capable of voting, looking forward to 16 year olds being tried as adults, given no anonymity and sent to big boy prison.

Nigel speaks:

https://x.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1945837816727908842

At 16, you won't be paying taxes, you can't die for your country, or marry without parental consent, so why should you get to vote?

God forbid young people have a say in the future they’re expected to live in, especially when we’ve got boomers voting based on whatever GB News fearmongered about that morning.

But sure, keep pretending 16-year-olds aren’t mature enough

16 year olds who leave school to do apprenticeships or paid-for training will be paying tax and so there will be 16 and 17 year olds who do pay tax who currently cannot vote.

I am curious, if not paying tax or not dying for your country is a reason to not be able to vote, do you extend that to all ages? I personally don't agree.

Also not sure what marriage has to do with it.

Age doesn't define someones ability to choose wisely when voting and going by recent polls less than 50% of 16-17 year olds are interested in voting, so there is that too. Lowering the age doesn't necessarily lead to engagement

Let’s not pretend older voters are the gold standard of wisdom and political engagement.

I don't think labour have begun to think of the knock on effects. Old enough to vote, old enough to buy booze. Old enough to drive, old enough to stand as an MP and as Livia pointed out, being treated as an adult in the courts

you are an older voter

100% of 16 year olds would view you as a pensioner nearing death

:joker:

You’re far older than I am so you’d be worm food.

they see us both the same sunshine

:douf:

Age doesn’t automatically grant wisdom, if it did, we wouldn’t have boomers proudly voting for parties that want to torch public services and then complain about the NHS being understaffed.

So yeah, I trust some 16-year-olds more than I trust a Facebook uncle with a Union Jack profile pic and a love for conspiracy theories.

This I agree with :laugh: I keep seeing videos of even 20 year olds saying anyone born in the 90s they consider old. :angel:

Nope, they don't pay enough to reach the tax threshold.

Was mostly sarcasm, as people tend to reel off a list of things that 16 year olds "can" do in order to justify giving them the vote.

Alex Phillips @ThatAlexWoman

Dear Labour

16 year olds don't want to vote

They just want a country to grow up in to. One they can call their own.

Perhaps try leaving them that instead? Before using them as pawns to keep your Britain-destroying wrecking ball of a sh*t show government in power.

They are too young to know how toxic you are. But when they are 40 and standing in a dumpster fire of a land where they have become the minority, they will wish you had never existed.

Love,

Britain

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