Why dont \'The United Kingdom\' (Feat. Wales, Soctland and NI) ever win at Eurovision?
 

We didnt win at The song contest nor the dance contest.


Is it a conspiracy that all the small countries such as, Serbia, ukraine etc, vote for each other as they used ot be one country?

I think it could be one big theory to not let England win anything.

What do you think?

one word
politics

Its all boring though, we never ever win!

Ireland gave us alot of points this year but we didnt return the favour:nono:

Well, i can see why...they were pants!

Bloc voting, I'm afraid. :bored:

I don't particularly mind anyway - I just love watching it for the ridiculous songs, and Terry Wogan's cynicism.

It's a political vote. Nobody votes for the songs any more.

what makes you think england are any good anyway?

In one word

Iraq

Its becuase everyone hates england unfortunatly,thanks to politics.

we never win because we have not entered a song worthy of winning for years.

Also the voting is very political these days so we would be highly unlikely to win unless we had a clear walk over winning song

We will never win whilst we have troops in Iraq or Afghanistan

I agree Sticks

We won't win with troops in Iraq or Afghanistan, I agree...mostly.
Although that doesn't vouch for the many years before we had troops over there. And that of course isn't the only reason.

Even Terry Wogan who commentates on the Eurovision every year for us is well aware that the voting is based on the countries relations to one another, it's common knowledge. Past history, politics, old alliances, countries that help eachother economically etc etc.

However, don't forget we have won with Lulu and many years later, Katrina and the Waves.
So it's more than possible =] since we have won on more than one occasion.

I think two problems are:

1. The fact we have no neighbouring countries, unless you count Ireland.

2. We have a reputation throughout the world, mainly thanks to Tony Blair, but also a reputation for being sarcastic and miserable.

:cheer2: politics, rubbish singers and rubbish songs :cheer:

Because England dont enter the Euro song contest.:wink:http://i10.tinypic.com/637sykx.gif

As France, England are rubbish at all, last Eurovision was deffo awful for both. We are better at rugby and for Big Brother. :spin2:

Even after the Argentina match?:laugh:

That was just the pressure, we should have won, I was so excited, my father was so gutted...but we drunk vodka with a cigar in order to relax lol
Oh and I will meet the All Blacks next week in Marseille as I'm the Student of the Year so...I'm so hyper !

Back to topic, England and France won't win Eurovision anymore.

Ive said why England wont win it.They dont enter it.:tongue:

they last won in 1997

In France, Eurovision is the last chance for poor singers with no money and fame hungry....so there are the results, we are always last. Last Eurovision was a disaster for both countries, one with the planes and the other one with a cat from Nothern France.
We have to accept it, we are rubbish haha :joker:

For a start, we won the war :bigsmile: everyone and their Gran mothers comes to this country yet they don't vote for us.

Exactly. Although even if we had first class singers and first class songs. These days politics would decide the winner which would not be the UK any time soon.......

how come someone like Britney spears or lily allen cant enter?

Why the hell would anyone actually want to win Eurovision ?

Its good as a comedy show - the partisan voting is stunning to behold.

But as a showcase for music ?? - comparatively - Teletubbies have it beat hands down

'And how many people watch the Eurovision - in comparison to other music/song shows?' Eurovision is very popular and watched by a huge majority. It is a fantastic show which is very entertaining and comes up with loads of new material. I watch it every year, just like many, many others. Winning is everything to the singers. Also, the winning country gets to hold the show for the next year. That makes it very interesting and exciting.

The voting is a mess - Things have really changed over the years and it is [certain countries voting for the same certain countries] - but we are faced with a cloud over the United Kingdom and Tony Blair did the damage - 'Iraq.'

I would hardly call it, 'comedy', I would call the X-Factor auditions, 'comedy', but not Eurovision. The Teletubbies was a childrens programme and the song which they brought out was a success

Well then don't hold your breath on it being held in Britain any time soon - the Bloc countries have it sown up - until they can't afford to host it, then they'll quickly do a Father Ted and scupper themselves.

and yes, I do think the whole farcical thing is pure comedy gold.
It may well be important for the singers, but as they are all vacuos wannabes I would strain to care less.

I watch it for the unintentional humour of it, and cringe when the UK entry comes on. I can marvel in the utter garbage of all the others but the UK have been especially embarrassing of late - singing trolley dolly's for g*ds sake, and they looked and sounded nothing like "Aqua" :laugh2::laugh2:

Our entrants can't even be original in their ineptitude. Then again, neither can the others, for instance Lordi were just a poor mans GWAR rip-off, but without the buckets of offal.


But lets be blunt, if the earth opened up in the middle of the show and swallowed up the whole lot of them, the world of music wouldn't mourn - it wouldn't even miss them

ENGLAND CANT WIN THE EUROVISION SONG CONTEST !!!!!! because england dosent enter it... Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland enter TOGETHER as The United Kingdom !!!!! :mad: it is so stubborn to think that england is the only country in the UK...... !!!!! :mad:

Sorry i touched a raw nerve, But when i think of england, i think of the country as a whole.

if scotland and wales were that bothered been classes as england why they still part of "the united kingdom"

And that country would be just that,England.You cant call N.Ireland,Scotland and Wales England!
4 Countries,1 Great Nation.:thumbs:

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im so confused.

I cant beleive how deep people look into things, -

Chill out! - lol

Ben

The Union we shall maintain.:thumbs2:

but seriously, im not loving this country atm just because everyone is living in fear.

When Scottish MP's vote one way for Scots and another way in Westminster for the English - when it is the English who foot the bill for Scotland - the figures stunned me when I looked them up - the Union is finished, sooner rather than later.

I just feel the need to add - Republic of Ireland is not part of the UK :bored:

It should be the Province of Northern Ireland, or Ulster

Sorry, i meant NI