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Rob 21-06-2008 11:42 PM

Should the age limit on sex be reviewed?
 
Ok this is quite a serious topic so dont let it get heated.

Lets face it most people lose their virginity before the age of 16, probably the same with alot of the TIBB members so should the age limit be abolished, as long as you are safe and use precautions then i can't see no reason why not, its a pointless law that at this moment in time is practically being ignored by teenagers everywhere.

Discuss

JohnnyBB 21-06-2008 11:44 PM

im scared to comment on this its such a touchy thing :sad:

Matt08 21-06-2008 11:45 PM

No, I don't think that under 16's should be allowed to have sex. If anything, it should be raised to 18.

Lauren 21-06-2008 11:47 PM

Abolishing it also affects laws such as statutory rape though, which is a serious issue. If it's abolished completely then it means that a 55 year old man can legally have sex with a 14 year old girl, for example.

Shaun 21-06-2008 11:47 PM

I don't think that lowering/raising the consent age for sex would be taken into consideration by the majority of teenagers. I think most people had sex not thinking "Ooh, I'm breaking the law".

However, I think it's important to have an age of consent for two important reasons. One, it gives young people the impression that sex is an important thing, and although some choose to 'be rebellious' and have sex before the age, it needs to be there as a reminder to everyone that people shouldn't have casual sex under 16.

Secondly, paedophilia, for obvious reasons.

But going deeper into that, I'm not sure what to think. Because, say, a 17 year old has sex with a 15 year old...is 2 years necessarily a big difference? Because it would be in terms of legality. And let's face it, there's some more mature 15-yos than there are 18yos.

But on the whole, I think the majority of 18yos are more mature and able to make a decision on sex than 15yos.

sol 21-06-2008 11:48 PM

Yeah, it would make the laws concerning rape very blurred especially with girls below the age of about 15.

Rob 21-06-2008 11:48 PM

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Originally posted by Matt08
No, I don't think that under 16's should be allowed to have sex. If anything, it should be raised to 18.
why though, its done no harm to me as long as you use protection of some kind then there no issue with it. Although just to clear it up im not someone thats just been sleeping around with everyone as it appears to be the stereotype for everyone that done it under age, ive been in a long term relationship since April last year and i think that if you can last that long in a relationship then why not have sex?

AngRemembered 21-06-2008 11:48 PM

Its a subject like the Euthanasia topic, and my feelings are the same, a change in the law will open up abuse, and we have to much of that already .......simple answer NO WAY.

Rob 21-06-2008 11:50 PM

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Originally posted by Lauren
Abolishing it also affects laws such as statutory rape though, which is a serious issue. If it's abolished completely then it means that a 55 year old man can legally have sex with a 14 year old girl, for example.
well theres a line between rape and having willing sex maybe they should change it so that any persons under the age of 18 can willingfully have sex with each other but for example a 55 year old can not legally have sex with a 14 year old girl

Shaun 21-06-2008 11:52 PM

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Originally posted by bb9fanatic
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Originally posted by Lauren
Abolishing it also affects laws such as statutory rape though, which is a serious issue. If it's abolished completely then it means that a 55 year old man can legally have sex with a 14 year old girl, for example.
well theres a line between rape and having willing sex maybe they should change it so that any persons under the age of 18 can willingfully have sex with each other but for example a 55 year old can not legally have sex with a 14 year old girl
Yes, but then there's the whole complication of people saying "she was willing to have sex" when 'she' wasn't. And I don't think people under the age of 14 are able to make that decision.

Lauren 21-06-2008 11:52 PM

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Originally posted by bb9fanatic
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Originally posted by Lauren
Abolishing it also affects laws such as statutory rape though, which is a serious issue. If it's abolished completely then it means that a 55 year old man can legally have sex with a 14 year old girl, for example.
well theres a line between rape and having willing sex maybe they should change it so that any persons under the age of 18 can willingfully have sex with each other but for example a 55 year old can not legally have sex with a 14 year old girl
But that counteracts your point. Just cos the law is in place doesn't mean people will follow it.

AngRemembered 21-06-2008 11:54 PM

ive been in a long term relationship since April last year and i think that if you can last that long in a relationship then why not have sex? [/quote]


dear lord I have pairs of knickers in my draw older than that, you might think your mature but wont realise how dumb you have acted now (albeit innocently) till your half way through life, at 16 you aint even quarter way there.

Just because you can open a car door dont make you Lewis Hamilton, or even a legit driver at that.

Lauren 21-06-2008 11:56 PM

I disagree with Ang - :laugh:. I think a lot of young relationships last a long, long time and aren't just young crushes.

dennissabre 21-06-2008 11:58 PM

What age you do you consider acceptable?

Rob 22-06-2008 12:00 AM

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Originally posted by AngnAndy
ive been in a long term relationship since April last year and i think that if you can last that long in a relationship then why not have sex?

dear lord I have pairs of knickers in my draw older than that, you might think your mature but wont realise how dumb you have acted now (albeit innocently) till your half way through life, at 16 you aint even quarter way there.

Just because you can open a car door dont make you Lewis Hamilton, or even a legit driver at that. [/quote]


ive not acted dumb at all thankyou very much i love my girlfriend and ive got a few ex's but she's something different and i love her and we are already saving to rent a small flat together when she turns 18 in January sound dumb to you now?

Rob 22-06-2008 12:01 AM

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Originally posted by Lauren
I disagree with Ang - :laugh:. I think a lot of young relationships last a long, long time and aren't just young crushes.
Thankyou Lauren, my relationship is more than just a crush, i know im only young but ive found the girl i want to settle down with and thats not stupid that being lucky as it take most people till around their mid 30's to do that

Lauren 22-06-2008 12:03 AM

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Originally posted by bb9fanatic
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Originally posted by Lauren
I disagree with Ang - :laugh:. I think a lot of young relationships last a long, long time and aren't just young crushes.
Thankyou Lauren, my relationship is more than just a crush, i know Im only young but ive found the girl i want to settle down with and thats not stupid that being lucky as it take most people till around their mid 30's to do that
I offer my best wishes. :hug:

My brother met his now fiance when he was 15. Moved in together by 18. He is now 25, and they have a son together and getting married in August.

AngRemembered 22-06-2008 12:05 AM

True Lauren close friendships can blossom to great romances that can last years, but most of those are based on a good foundation of respect.

Take all our current HM's, Alex 15 = baby un married god knows where the father is boy friend in prison

Jennifer 21 baby now split with husband

Stuart 25, un married one kid claim he may have more but, "dosnt really know" or seem to care.

Combined age of 61 with NO partners and another 3 (at least) babies to set the trend again, god knows where that will be when they get to 'maturity'

Basic requirements of a relaitionship are time respect honesty and planning, none can be expected or capable for someone still in school.
That's without the sex..... then there is lowering the age, I can see every paedophile in the world cracking open the champagne now.
I dont have a perfect solution I just recognise this very very bad one.

dennissabre 22-06-2008 12:08 AM

:hello: I asked what age you do you consider acceptable?

MrGaryy 22-06-2008 12:11 AM

I think it should be risen. I would make more sense to have drinking at 16 at sex at 18. Not that it really matter because at the end of the day the majority of modern day teens, it wouldn't even cross their minds that they were, in fact, breaking the law.

Rob 22-06-2008 12:13 AM

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Originally posted by Lauren
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Originally posted by bb9fanatic
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Originally posted by Lauren
I disagree with Ang - :laugh:. I think a lot of young relationships last a long, long time and aren't just young crushes.
Thankyou Lauren, my relationship is more than just a crush, i know Im only young but ive found the girl i want to settle down with and thats not stupid that being lucky as it take most people till around their mid 30's to do that
I offer my best wishes. :hug:

My brother met his now fiance when he was 15. Moved in together by 18. He is now 25, and they have a son together and getting married in August.
Awww thankyou very much Lauren that means alot to me :hug:

I think the issue that alot of young relationships have these days is that there arent mature and keep secrets or want to sleep around with others.

Thats something that me and my girlfriend dont have. We are very mature around each other we dont hold secrets we are open and honest with each other and tell each other what we think, although its got the point where we know what each other is thinking now and also we both get along with each others families very well, we are always around her house and her mum and dad are very aware that we have sex and they dont mind as they though its not a spare of the moment relationship even though i was underage when i lost my virginity to her we were in a loving trusting relationship which is not based entirely on sex , sex is just a bonus for us and its a way of showing how much we really do love each other.

Now i believe that shows the grounds of a good, strong relationship that i hope will last.

Also I do disagree with people that just sleep around with people for the sake of it, i believe sex should be part of a relationship.

MrGaryy 22-06-2008 12:14 AM

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Originally posted by AngnAndy
True Lauren close friendships can blossom to great romances that can last years, but most of those are based on a good foundation of respect.

Take all our current HM's, Alex 15 = baby un married god knows where the father is boy friend in prison

Jennifer 21 baby now split with husband

Stuart 25, un married one kid claim he may have more but, "dosnt really know" or seem to care.

Combined age of 61 with NO partners and another 3 (at least) babies to set the trend again, god knows where that will be when they get to 'maturity'

Basic requirements of a relaitionship are time respect honesty and planning, none can be expected or capable for someone still in school.
That's without the sex..... then there is lowering the age, I can see every paedophile in the world cracking open the champagne now.
I dont have a perfect solution I just recognise this very very bad one.
Too be fair I think Stu's comment about having more kids was more about bragging about his casual sex life than disregarding his possible love child(s).

Rob 22-06-2008 12:16 AM

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Originally posted by dennissabre
:hello: I asked what age you do you consider acceptable?
i dont really consider an age to be acceptable, i think its whenever you are ready some people feel ready at 14 some others feel ready at 16. As long as both people involved feel happy with what they are doing an are using contraception then i personally dont think there is any reason why they should not

AngRemembered 22-06-2008 12:21 AM

Too be fair I think Stu's comment about having more kids was more about bragging about his casual sex life than disregarding his possible love child(s). [/quote]

I tend to agree, although it was his immature attitude evan at 25 (the oldest of the 3 I mentioned) that was my point.

I guess I'm out of touch my daughters 22 has a job/career lives at home and wants to leave home when she has a foundation to be in a proper relaitionship and stability in order to bring kids into the world wanted and loved.
I guess anything other than that would seem really dumb, but as i say maybe I got this wrong too.

Kids lets lower the age to 10, lets finish school to, hell lets elect kids at 11 to make the laws.... only people gonna cheer loudest are peodophiles when it comes to youngsters having sex.

MrGaryy 22-06-2008 12:24 AM

It's an interesting topic (Thanks for bringining it up). While I don't agree with the current limit I can't find an age limit I do agree with but all I do know is that it definetly shouldn't be lowered. But with any lage there would have to be loop holes with that law. Because like Shaun said earlier, if some one who's 16 has sex with a 15 year old are they really breaking the law. Look at the situation with Jamie Lynn Spears' boyfriend (I know they're not exactly a poster child for teen sex!). He almost faced rape charges because in that state's law she was too young but he wasn't but there was only a year in the difference!

But in most situations it really depends on the people involved.

Rob 22-06-2008 12:24 AM

im not saying remove the law to encourage sexaul behaviour more im just saying that the law is not being obeyed by a high proportion of teenagers so why have it if it has no effect on what teeagers do

dennissabre 22-06-2008 12:25 AM

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Originally posted by bb9fanatic
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Originally posted by dennissabre
:hello: I asked what age you do you consider acceptable?
i dont really consider an age to be acceptable, i think its whenever you are ready some people feel ready at 14 some others feel ready at 16. As long as both people involved feel happy with what they are doing an are using contraception then i personally dont think there is any reason why they should not
The current age is 16 and young people are having sex. If you lower it,will people be having sex at an even younger age and learning about it at an even younger age?

Isn't there enough pressure to grow up as there is ?

Rob 22-06-2008 12:27 AM

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Originally posted by Gazbo
It's an interesting topic (Thanks for bringining it up). While I don't agree with the current limit I can't find an age limit I do agree with but all I do know is that it definetly shouldn't be lowered. But with any lage there would have to be loop holes with that law. Because like Shaun said earlier, if some one who's 16 has sex with a 15 year old are they really breaking the law. Look at the situation with Jamie Lynn Spears' boyfriend (I know they're not exactly a poster child for teen sex!). He almost faced rape charges because in that state's law she was too young but he wasn't but there was only a year in the difference!

But in most situations it really depends on the people involved.
well yes exactly my girlfriend was 16 the first time we done it and i was 15 so technically she was breaking the law by having sex with me but the law needs to oversee things like that considering we are in a long term relationship

MrGaryy 22-06-2008 12:28 AM

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Originally posted by bb9fanatic
Im not saying remove the law to encourage sexaul behaviour more Im just saying that the law is not being obeyed by a high proportion of teenagers so why have it if it has no effect on what teeagers do
It need to be there for all the others that it does stop. Lets not forget the risk of pregnancy. Lowering or abolishing it would raise the amount of teen pregnancy which doesn't need to be any higher than it already is.

AngRemembered 22-06-2008 12:29 AM

The current age is 16 and young people are having sex. If you lower it,will people be having sex at an even younger age and learning about it at an even younger age?
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I agree, and what can we expect then,?
I can see one benefit though kids not having time off school to look after kids, at this rate they will be in the same school only different year grades.

This world has officially gone mad...:whistle:

Rob 22-06-2008 12:29 AM

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Originally posted by dennissabre
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Originally posted by bb9fanatic
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Originally posted by dennissabre
:hello: I asked what age you do you consider acceptable?
i dont really consider an age to be acceptable, i think its whenever you are ready some people feel ready at 14 some others feel ready at 16. As long as both people involved feel happy with what they are doing an are using contraception then i personally dont think there is any reason why they should not
The current age is 16 and young people are having sex. If you lower it,will people be having sex at an even younger age and learning about it at an even younger age?

Isn't there enough pressure to grow up as there is ?

well yeh i agree with that as my 11 year old sister had a sex education lesson last week and they gave them all condoms which i think is one of the main reasons why people are having sex at such a young age, i think that the educating of sex should be held back until they are at least 14 or 15

MrGaryy 22-06-2008 12:29 AM

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Originally posted by bb9fanatic
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Originally posted by Gazbo
It's an interesting topic (Thanks for bringining it up). While I don't agree with the current limit I can't find an age limit I do agree with but all I do know is that it definetly shouldn't be lowered. But with any lage there would have to be loop holes with that law. Because like Shaun said earlier, if some one who's 16 has sex with a 15 year old are they really breaking the law. Look at the situation with Jamie Lynn Spears' boyfriend (I know they're not exactly a poster child for teen sex!). He almost faced rape charges because in that state's law she was too young but he wasn't but there was only a year in the difference!

But in most situations it really depends on the people involved.
well yes exactly my girlfriend was 16 the first time we done it and i was 15 so technically she was breaking the law by having sex with me but the law needs to oversee things like that considering we are in a long term relationship
But if the law was to overlook any example of law break then think of the criticism it would recieve for not overlooking everything. It's the age old case of people accusing the law of having deifferent rules for different people.

dennissabre 22-06-2008 12:31 AM

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Originally posted by AngnAndy
The current age is 16 and young people are having sex. If you lower it,will people be having sex at an even younger age and learning about it at an even younger age?
I agree, and what can we expect then,?
I can see one benefit though kids not having time off school to look after kids, at this rate they will be in the same school only different year grades.

This world has officially gone mad...:whistle: [/quote]
LMTO :laugh:

MrGaryy 22-06-2008 12:33 AM

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Originally posted by bb9fanatic
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Originally posted by dennissabre
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Originally posted by bb9fanatic
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Originally posted by dennissabre
:hello: I asked what age you do you consider acceptable?
i dont really consider an age to be acceptable, i think its whenever you are ready some people feel ready at 14 some others feel ready at 16. As long as both people involved feel happy with what they are doing an are using contraception then i personally dont think there is any reason why they should not
The current age is 16 and young people are having sex. If you lower it,will people be having sex at an even younger age and learning about it at an even younger age?

Isn't there enough pressure to grow up as there is ?

well yeh i agree with that as my 11 year old sister had a sex education lesson last week and they gave them all condoms which i think is one of the main reasons why people are having sex at such a young age, i think that the educating of sex should be held back until they are at least 14 or 15
Wow! I had sex ed when I was 11 too but it was extremly vague. They actually said "When two people love each other they have urges to roll around and hug and kiss each other which sometimes leads to other things"! That could possibly be down too it being a catholic schoo, I was attending at the time and it was a cartoon they used to show us! But it didn't include talk of condoms, protection or anything like that.

Rob 22-06-2008 12:33 AM

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Originally posted by Gazbo
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Originally posted by bb9fanatic
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Originally posted by Gazbo
It's an interesting topic (Thanks for bringining it up). While I don't agree with the current limit I can't find an age limit I do agree with but all I do know is that it definetly shouldn't be lowered. But with any lage there would have to be loop holes with that law. Because like Shaun said earlier, if some one who's 16 has sex with a 15 year old are they really breaking the law. Look at the situation with Jamie Lynn Spears' boyfriend (I know they're not exactly a poster child for teen sex!). He almost faced rape charges because in that state's law she was too young but he wasn't but there was only a year in the difference!

But in most situations it really depends on the people involved.
well yes exactly my girlfriend was 16 the first time we done it and i was 15 so technically she was breaking the law by having sex with me but the law needs to oversee things like that considering we are in a long term relationship
But if the law was to overlook any example of law break then think of the criticism it would recieve for not overlooking everything. It's the age old case of people accusing the law of having deifferent rules for different people.
but to be honest having under age sex is not the worst crime in, unless you physically hold someone down and have sex with them against their will then its not really a big deal

Rob 22-06-2008 12:35 AM

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Originally posted by Gazbo
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Originally posted by bb9fanatic
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Originally posted by dennissabre
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Originally posted by bb9fanatic
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Originally posted by dennissabre
:hello: I asked what age you do you consider acceptable?
i dont really consider an age to be acceptable, i think its whenever you are ready some people feel ready at 14 some others feel ready at 16. As long as both people involved feel happy with what they are doing an are using contraception then i personally dont think there is any reason why they should not
The current age is 16 and young people are having sex. If you lower it,will people be having sex at an even younger age and learning about it at an even younger age?

Isn't there enough pressure to grow up as there is ?

well yeh i agree with that as my 11 year old sister had a sex education lesson last week and they gave them all condoms which i think is one of the main reasons why people are having sex at such a young age, i think that the educating of sex should be held back until they are at least 14 or 15
Wow! I had sex ed when I was 11 too but it was extremly vague. They actually said "When two people love each other they have urges to roll around and hug and kiss each other which sometimes leads to other things"! That could possibly be down too it being a catholic schoo, I was attending at the time and it was a cartoon they used to show us! But it didn't include talk of condoms, protection or anything like that.
no she said they were taught about everything from the healthiest way to have sex to oral sex and masturbation the lot!

MrGaryy 22-06-2008 12:36 AM

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Originally posted by bb9fanatic
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Originally posted by Gazbo
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Originally posted by bb9fanatic
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Originally posted by Gazbo
It's an interesting topic (Thanks for bringining it up). While I don't agree with the current limit I can't find an age limit I do agree with but all I do know is that it definetly shouldn't be lowered. But with any lage there would have to be loop holes with that law. Because like Shaun said earlier, if some one who's 16 has sex with a 15 year old are they really breaking the law. Look at the situation with Jamie Lynn Spears' boyfriend (I know they're not exactly a poster child for teen sex!). He almost faced rape charges because in that state's law she was too young but he wasn't but there was only a year in the difference!

But in most situations it really depends on the people involved.
well yes exactly my girlfriend was 16 the first time we done it and i was 15 so technically she was breaking the law by having sex with me but the law needs to oversee things like that considering we are in a long term relationship
But if the law was to overlook any example of law break then think of the criticism it would recieve for not overlooking everything. It's the age old case of people accusing the law of having deifferent rules for different people.
but to be honest having under age sex is not the worst crime in, unless you physically hold someone down and have sex with them against their will then its not really a big deal
Well you and I both know that but as I said before a crime is a crime and the law can't say its OK to break the law this way but not this way. That would be hypocritical of them.

MrGaryy 22-06-2008 12:37 AM

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Originally posted by bb9fanatic
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Originally posted by Gazbo
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Originally posted by bb9fanatic
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Originally posted by dennissabre
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Originally posted by bb9fanatic
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Originally posted by dennissabre
:hello: I asked what age you do you consider acceptable?
i dont really consider an age to be acceptable, i think its whenever you are ready some people feel ready at 14 some others feel ready at 16. As long as both people involved feel happy with what they are doing an are using contraception then i personally dont think there is any reason why they should not
The current age is 16 and young people are having sex. If you lower it,will people be having sex at an even younger age and learning about it at an even younger age?

Isn't there enough pressure to grow up as there is ?

well yeh i agree with that as my 11 year old sister had a sex education lesson last week and they gave them all condoms which i think is one of the main reasons why people are having sex at such a young age, i think that the educating of sex should be held back until they are at least 14 or 15
Wow! I had sex ed when I was 11 too but it was extremly vague. They actually said "When two people love each other they have urges to roll around and hug and kiss each other which sometimes leads to other things"! That could possibly be down too it being a catholic schoo, I was attending at the time and it was a cartoon they used to show us! But it didn't include talk of condoms, protection or anything like that.
no she said they were taught about everything from the healthiest way to have sex to oral sex and masturbation the lot!
OMG! One kid asked about masturbation and was PUNISHED!

AngRemembered 22-06-2008 12:39 AM

some great shools in the Uk I am very impressed, did anyone learn maths and english in between all this ...lol

Rob 22-06-2008 12:42 AM

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Originally posted by AngnAndy
some great shools in the Uk I am very impressed, did anyone learn maths and english in between all this ...lol
i really hope so, i left school last year and so my sex ed lesson was 6 years ago and it went no where near as graphical as that. I think the most we did was had to draw a diagram of a Vagina and Penis and learn about the organs!


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