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Matt10k 23-08-2008 04:37 PM

Downloading illegally...
 
Not sure if anyone here did before, but if you did- have you stopped downloading music/ films online?

I heard there's a 3 strike rule now and that ISP's are monitoring what you download?

Apparently, repeat offenders get a letter warning them to stop or their internet connection will be cut off.

:bawling:

Novo 23-08-2008 04:38 PM

i still do it :bigsmile:

i never knew about the strike rule

MR.K! 23-08-2008 04:40 PM

i guess its a good idea, afterall i would be quite annoyed if i was famous and people basicly stole off of me rather than buy it, Although i used to download in the past *cough

Callum 23-08-2008 04:40 PM

I still do it, in my opinion there's worse stuff going on in the world that should be tackled before this.

Scarlett. 23-08-2008 04:42 PM

Dont really download much anyway

Annie 23-08-2008 04:44 PM

I only download the odd song anyway.. I wont download albums or movies or that but i wouldnt worry about this strike thing. how many people download?! haha i wish them the best of luck

Tom 23-08-2008 04:45 PM

They aren't monitoring what you download, they're monitoring how much you download which is where its gets ridiculous. How can they distinguish between downloading an album illegally and watching a programme on BBC iPlayer perfectly legally?

Sam 23-08-2008 04:48 PM

I never download illegally, i don't see what's wrong with paying?

Scarlett. 23-08-2008 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom
They aren't monitoring what you download, they're monitoring how much you download which is where its gets ridiculous. How can they distinguish between downloading an album illegally and watching a programme on BBC iPlayer perfectly legally?
Because the probs aint even monitoring us, just using scare tactics

Rory 23-08-2008 04:50 PM

No comment. :bigsmile:

Tom4784 23-08-2008 04:50 PM

I don't download much at all, just the odd instrumental and stuff for Media. I much prefer having the discs in my hands and stuff. I like the real deal.

Dizzy 23-08-2008 04:52 PM

I download a few songs now and then, but I can't download films or anything. My brother has a safe way of downloading albums and films, he's tried explaining it all to me but I don't understand most of it... he has all these special programmes on his PC, he's a sneaky sod when it comes to downloading illegally.

Firewire 23-08-2008 05:03 PM

I download songs of of LW. But nt albums or movies.

Conor 23-08-2008 05:08 PM

adobephotoshopfireworkspremireprodreamweaversoundb ooth&aftereffects all copied *cough*

Does ripping music of youtube count too? lol

Sarah. 23-08-2008 05:15 PM

I download a lot of the time. I'll only stop if I get a warning... maybe....

Very_Nayce 23-08-2008 05:42 PM

I consider myself loyal to 4-5 artists and thus will buy their music. I have no problem torrenting the hell out of everything else though. Those guys have more money than me. Bottom line.

Shaun 23-08-2008 05:45 PM

IMO There's no difference between downloading songs and just watching them on YouTube whenever you want to. Same availability, yet the notion of illegality?

And I'm not stopping any time soon.

Spike 23-08-2008 05:53 PM

When I get a warning letter I will stop
There are bigger things in the world to worry about than me downloading a few tracks and when the tree is moved from outside my house so I can get Sky I will stop downloading TV shows too

Big_Brutta 23-08-2008 05:54 PM

I'm still not stopping lol. Unless of course my parents force me to.

Matt10k 23-08-2008 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dizzy
I download a few songs now and then, but I can't download films or anything. My brother has a safe way of downloading albums and films, he's tried explaining it all to me but I don't understand most of it... he has all these special programmes on his PC, he's a sneaky sod when it comes to downloading illegally.
That's what I've been trying to do, shh! Can't figure it out though- not computer literate enough!

Every time I download through limewire, my net seems to slow down or repeatedly cut off for a day or two.

I haven't downloaded any songs or films for weeks now :sad:

Suprised no one else seems to be getting the so called letters. They said they'd send one out after downloading only 3 songs illegally. Seems it just isn't happening.

Locke. 24-08-2008 02:15 AM

I used to download all my music through Limewire but I can't cope with it any more, it freezes and does all kinds of weird **** and I'd end up smashing my laptop, so I just listen to music on youtube now. I still usually watch films illegally online though.

Princess 24-08-2008 02:16 AM

Most people do it,I prefer to buy albums but if its just one song than I will download it off Limewire. I downloaded the majority of Grey's Anatomy S3
of LimeWire because I couldn't find it online.

MrGaryy 24-08-2008 02:22 AM

Does downloading torrents count?

SamR 24-08-2008 02:40 AM

Im never going to stop, the singers who songs i illegaly downlaod are loaded anyway so why give them more money

noahman 24-08-2008 02:44 AM

I only download stuff i cant get commericially (like tv shows that wont ever be releasesd on dvd)

xDramatick 24-08-2008 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sam
I never download illegally, i don't see what's wrong with paying?
Some people can't?
I certainly can't.

A week or so ago, I wrote a list of albums I want, and there's about 63 I want. No exaggeration.
I like a WIDE range of music, all styles, some chart, most not.
There's NO way I can afford to buy them all.
I/My parents probably can't afford to even get half of them before Xmas.
Bearing in mind also, some of the albums are JPop, and a lot are American, so that'd be an extra cost for paying for the shipping/order.
A lot of the bands/artists I like I never see in HMV, or most music stores.

I can't get an itunes account because my parents refuse to put their details anywhere on the net, and they wouldn't buy me vouchers either to get round this.

What am I meant to do?
If I can afford the CD, and it's one that I'd put priority, then I'd more than likely get it, but I don't get CDs that often because I need other things more.
I do prefer to have the CD as I like having the case+stuff.
But then again, it clutters up my rather small bedroom.

Therefore the only alternative I have is to download online, free.
I always delete the tracks from my computer after they've been put on my ipod, but that's mainly because of memory issues on my computer.
Limewire's always a last resort. I hate the thing.
I'll do a google blog search for the song/album first, then check SIN [A music download forum], ask my mates, and if I then can't find a torrent for it, I'll go for Limewire.
If I'm honest, most of my music has come from mediafire/zshare/blogs, which is obviously not anymore legal but I do try to avoid Limewire, even for torrents.

I even swap music with my mates. You should see the size of some of my sharing folders. It's practically a music library. That's our way of obtaining music without having to pay full prices. We'll buy CDs then trade them on MSN.
I'll continue to use blogs, hosts, SIN, friends, and the occasional torrent until I'm sent a warning letter.

&that is what's wrong with paying.

Firewire 24-08-2008 10:31 AM

lol Darenn

melanie 24-08-2008 10:31 AM

In Canada, you can't rip CD's into your iPod. The iTunes store is very limited, no movies and most of the songs I like aren't there. I always download. I think theres too many people doing it to get everyone. In my country, uploaders are the main target.

Oh yeah, Limewire is loaded with viruses. :yuk:

Firewire 24-08-2008 10:35 AM

I never get viruses with Limewire.

I have Limewire PRO.

bigbr0ther 24-08-2008 10:57 AM

You guys, it's not just a case of "If we get caught, stop, if not keep going." Would you murder someone if you knew you wouldn't get caught? What about rape? I know these are far more serious crimes but the fact of the matter is that stealing is unethical, whether there's a "three strikes" rule or not.

I am proud to say that I have never stolen a single song.

melanie 24-08-2008 07:29 PM

Downloading and watching videos on youtube are pretty much the same.

Conor 24-08-2008 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Firewire
I never get viruses with Limewire.

I have Limewire PRO.
I downloaded Limewire pro of Limewire lol

But I never bother with it much any more. Its easier and quicker to rip the music of Youtube.

bigbr0ther 25-08-2008 11:58 AM

So then, you walk into a music store, and you notice something - no security cameras, no security guards, no sensors, and the cashier is reading a magazine! You go behind one shelf and no one can see you. You have total privacy. You see a CD that should be $15 but at $30 it's way overpriced. So, that justifies stealing it, right?

This is essentially what you are saying when you say it's okay to steal music because "there's no way they'd be able to catch you" or "it costs too much anyway."

Xander 25-08-2008 12:11 PM

I will never stop, I will continue to do so until I get a warning.
I can't afford the amount of music I downloaded at all. Therefore I have to use Torrents, Limewire etc..
I do have a itunes account and if there are songs which I can't find anywhere to downloaded and are on itunes I will use Itunes to but the song, but thats only rarely.

MarkWaldorf 25-08-2008 12:22 PM

The only time I download a movie is if I've seen it in the cinema - so therefore I feel as if I've payed for that movie. I would never download a newly released film that I haven't watched/feel as if I've payed for.

I download music too but not on Limewire. And I download TV episodes because I'm not waiting 6 months for the UK to get a grip and start airing new episodes of shows I could have easily have accessed all those months ago. If they have a problem with people downloading TV shows - then maybe they should listen in and start airing shows sooner rather than later. I've noticed BBC2 is doing it now with Heroes.

bigbr0ther 26-08-2008 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Xander
I will never stop, I will continue to do so until I get a warning.
I can't afford the amount of music I downloaded at all. Therefore I have to use Torrents, Limewire etc..
I do have a itunes account and if there are songs which I can't find anywhere to downloaded and are on itunes I will use Itunes to but the song, but thats only rarely.
Erm, if you CAN'T AFFORD something, DON'T BUY IT. If you couldn't afford the clothes at Neiman Marcus, that wouldn't justify going in and stealing them.

If you can't afford the amount of music you download, you shouldn't be downloading that much music.

MrGaryy 26-08-2008 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bigbr0ther
You guys, it's not just a case of "If we get caught, stop, if not keep going." Would you murder someone if you knew you wouldn't get caught? What about rape? I know these are far more serious crimes but the fact of the matter is that stealing is unethical, whether there's a "three strikes" rule or not.

I am proud to say that I have never stolen a single song.
How can you compare rape and murder to using Limewire?

I rarely download music, not cos I'm against it, I just preder and get the CD, I'm not often strapped for cash anyway so I'm lucky in that respect. I do download TV shows because I hate having to wait months for the UK to get it. Although if I can, I just use STC instead.

Hugo 26-08-2008 07:13 PM

I mainly use iTunes but if there is a song, I want before it's released or I have bought loads of songs recently then I will download it.

ss00 26-08-2008 07:13 PM

i download music all time using Torrentz... but when I'm satisfied with the album i'll buy the CD of it...
but yeah i also download Tv shows coz i don't want to wait till they got showed here in UK.
but in the case of movies I always watch them on cinemas or buy dvds.

Conor 26-08-2008 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bigbr0ther
So then, you walk into a music store, and you notice something - no security cameras, no security guards, no sensors, and the cashier is reading a magazine! You go behind one shelf and no one can see you. You have total privacy. You see a CD that should be $15 but at $30 it's way overpriced. So, that justifies stealing it, right?

This is essentially what you are saying when you say it's okay to steal music because "there's no way they'd be able to catch you" or "it costs too much anyway."
There two totally different scenarios. The only similarity is both times music has been stolen. Nothing more.


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