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NettoSuperstar! 22-09-2008 02:43 PM

America should vote Barack Obama!
 
for the sake of world stability Obama has to be the next president! The world in the hands of Sarah Palin and Mcain just doesnt bare thinking about! this moose hunting redneck wouldnt hesitate to go to war with Russia! Please America for the love of humanity do not let these pople run the country

JeanP! 22-09-2008 10:28 PM

America should vote John McCain!!!

Corkie 22-09-2008 10:30 PM

Please god let Obama get elected for all hope of mankind :bouncy:

Blink_Me 22-09-2008 10:35 PM

Obama will win.... then we will have the new Antichrist.

Ruth 23-09-2008 07:30 AM

I live in fear of John McCain being elected. I've been watching the election very closely (I'll be in the states on election day), and John McCain is a scary prospect. But even more scary is Sarah Palin. The amount of lies she has told....she is a vile, vile woman.

NettoSuperstar! 23-09-2008 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JeanP!
America should vote John McCain!!!
And errrr why should they vote for war mongering, end of times bible bashing muppets!?

Ruth 23-09-2008 10:23 AM

http://filthyrag.com/blog/2008/09/th...ter-long-read/

Sarah Palin - doesn't believe in abortion. Says her daughter has made a choice to have her baby - fair enough....except that she wants to deny others that choice.

Was happy for rape victims to be charged for their rape testing kits.

Tried to get her brother in law fired from his job as state trooper, over a personal disagreement.

Was apparently overheard saying, "So Sambo beat the bitch," upon hearing that Obama beat Hillary Clinton for the democratic presidential nominee.

Refers to Eskimos as "Arctic Arabs".

Was asked if she agreed with the Bush doctrine - she wasn't able to say what that doctrine was.

Said that prior to accepting the job as VP candidate, she talked the decision over with her daughters. It has since been proven that she accepted the job before even telling her daughters.

When she became Mayor of Wasilla, the town had NO debt. By the time she left that post, the town was $22 million in debt.

Has been alleged dodgy expense claims.

Talks about a "Palin-McCain administration" (someone needs to remind her, she is VP candidate, not presidential candidate) and referred to McCain as her running mate. (The VP candidate is always referred to as the running mate, not the other way around - frankly if John McCain does get in, he needs to watch his back...she doesn't want to be VP, she wants the top job).

Said that if her daughter got pregnant as a result of rape, she would not allow her to have an abortion.

Is willing to wage war on Russia (thanks, but I've already lived through the threat of one Cold War - I don't fancy going through it again).

Has far less experience than Obama, despite the fact that McCain attacked Obama relentlessly for his lack of experience.

Belongs to a Church which prays to make gay people straight.

Is against same-sex marriage.

Ruth 23-09-2008 10:27 AM

Obama up in the polls.

Obama/Biden 202
164 Solid 38 Leaning
McCain/Palin 189
163 Solid 26 Leaning
Toss Up 147
147 Toss Up

More details:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...obama-225.html

Spike 23-09-2008 10:29 AM

I am supporting McCain and Palin

Obama is someone who promises little and wont deliver on those few promises He isn't going to be able to combat things such as terrorism as well as McCain.
McCain will make big decisions for the best even if its against the majority, he isn't afraid to stand up and say what he believes in same goes for Palin
Now what does Obama believe in, not much he doesn't state his policies instead gives people false hope.
Atleas voting McCain we know what we will get and that will be a better America and a better world

Ruth 23-09-2008 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Spike
I am supporting McCain and Palin

Obama is someone who promises little and wont deliver on those few promises He isn't going to be able to combat things such as terrorism as well as McCain.
McCain will make big decisions for the best even if its against the majority, he isn't afraid to stand up and say what he believes in same goes for Palin
Now what does Obama believe in, not much he doesn't state his policies instead gives people false hope.
Atleas voting McCain we know what we will get and that will be a better America and a better world
How can you say that Obama is giving false hope?

How can you say that he won't deliver?

I'd love one of those crystal balls you've got.

So far in this campaign, McCain has told 63 lies which can be proven to be lies. Even his fellow POWs don't want him to win.

And as for Palin The Evil.....if she becomes VP we can all look forward to revisiting the days of the Cold War.

As for Palin - she may say what she believes in...so did Hitler. Some of the things she believes in are very very questionable.

NettoSuperstar! 23-09-2008 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Spike
I am supporting McCain and Palin

Obama is someone who promises little and wont deliver on those few promises He isn't going to be able to combat things such as terrorism as well as McCain.
McCain will make big decisions for the best even if its against the majority, he isn't afraid to stand up and say what he believes in same goes for Palin
Now what does Obama believe in, not much he doesn't state his policies instead gives people false hope.
Atleas voting McCain we know what we will get and that will be a better America and a better world
yes but what do they believe in??? uttter crap (as Ruth so kindly found the time to write down), theyre a danger to the world!

NettoSuperstar! 23-09-2008 11:21 AM

you'll get a better America for those who have money and a even bigger $hite hole for those that dont

Spike 23-09-2008 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ruth
Quote:

Originally posted by Spike
I am supporting McCain and Palin

Obama is someone who promises little and wont deliver on those few promises He isn't going to be able to combat things such as terrorism as well as McCain.
McCain will make big decisions for the best even if its against the majority, he isn't afraid to stand up and say what he believes in same goes for Palin
Now what does Obama believe in, not much he doesn't state his policies instead gives people false hope.
Atleas voting McCain we know what we will get and that will be a better America and a better world
How can you say that Obama is giving false hope?

How can you say that he won't deliver?

I'd love one of those crystal balls you've got.

So far in this campaign, McCain has told 63 lies which can be proven to be lies. Even his fellow POWs don't want him to win.

And as for Palin The Evil.....if she becomes VP we can all look forward to revisiting the days of the Cold War.

As for Palin - she may say what she believes in...so did Hitler. Some of the things she believes in are very very questionable.
Obama wont deliver on any of the big issues, he doesn't have the strength which a good leader should have to make those big decisions even if its against the majority so he is giving false hope to Americans of change.
Everyone lies, its just shows how much McCain wants to be president and how much he loves his country
and Palin isn't evil and its good to know what someone stands for if we like it or not. The Hitler point is stupid, you can't compare the two. Maybe if we are going to compare Hitler to anyone it is Obama, it seems both didn't tell the public their full ideas before an election.

NettoSuperstar! 23-09-2008 11:32 AM

Sarah Palin believes in the end of times and probably wants to fufil the prophecy!

Obama=hope
McCain/Palin=despair

Ruth 23-09-2008 11:32 AM

Spike -

Well.....first of all, I asked HOW YOU KNEW that Obama wouldn't live up to his promises. You have spectacularly failed to answer that.

As for justifying McCain lying - well, you are really clutching at straws there. So, basically it's okay to lie if you really, really want something. Hmmm.....I'll remember that then.

I wasn't actually comparing Palin to Hitler. I was making the point that simply standing up for what you believe in is no good if what you believe in is utter rubbish. Do a bit of research. Learn about some of the lies that Palin has told. Learn what she knows about the Bush doctrine (hint - she didn't even know what it was).

And as for comparing Obama to Hitler - well, that would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.

And again - I'd love one of those crystal balls you've got. HOW can you predict what Obama will or won't do? HOW do you know that he is keeping secrets?

NettoSuperstar! 23-09-2008 11:39 AM

...and lets face it anyone with half a brain cell could do better than Bush!

NettoSuperstar! 23-09-2008 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bbE
Quote:

Originally posted by Spike
I am supporting McCain and Palin

Obama is someone who promises little and wont deliver on those few promises He isn't going to be able to combat things such as terrorism as well as McCain.
McCain will make big decisions for the best even if its against the majority, he isn't afraid to stand up and say what he believes in same goes for Palin
Now what does Obama believe in, not much he doesn't state his policies instead gives people false hope.
Atleas voting McCain we know what we will get and that will be a better America and a better world
yes but what do they believe in??? uttter c**p (as Ruth so kindly found the time to write down), theyre a danger to the world!
Well Im sure he'll have a more sensible approach than bombing the F%*K out of everywhere

Markymark 23-09-2008 01:28 PM

These nutters really put our politicians into perspective. I favour the Conservatives in the UK at the moment but McCain and Palin will make America and the world a worse place. I just hope we don't get dragged into their battles if they're elected.

Ruth 23-09-2008 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Spike


Obama wont deliver on any of the big issues, he doesn't have the strength which a good leader should have to make those big decisions even if its against the majority so he is giving false hope to Americans of change.
Everyone lies, its just shows how much McCain wants to be president and how much he loves his country
and Palin isn't evil and its good to know what someone stands for if we like it or not. The Hitler point is stupid, you can't compare the two. Maybe if we are going to compare Hitler to anyone it is Obama, it seems both didn't tell the public their full ideas before an election.
I honestly think the highlighted part of that post is the funniest and most ridiculous thing I have ever read on here.

Basically saying that John McCain would make a good president because he's a proven liar. Hilarious!!
:laugh3::laugh3:
So honesty and integrity makes for a bad presidency then???

I needed a good laugh today, and that has definitely given me one!!

ange7 23-09-2008 01:51 PM

doesn't Palin believe in "intelligent design". A crazy nutj ob like that a heart beat away from the top job. That's scary!.
We don't need McCalin to be the "tough guy" and sort out Iran , North Korea and Russia. That rubbish didn't work for Bush or Bush W so why people think we need someone "tougher" make no sense.

NettoSuperstar! 23-09-2008 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ange7
doesn't Palin believe in "intelligent design". A crazy nutj ob like that a heart beat away from the top job. That's scary!.
We don't need McCalin to be the "tough guy" and sort out Iran , North Korea and Russia. That rubbish didn't work for Bush or Bush W so why people think we need someone "tougher" make no sense.
yeah she wants it taught in schools!

NettoSuperstar! 23-09-2008 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ruth
Quote:

Originally posted by Spike


Obama wont deliver on any of the big issues, he doesn't have the strength which a good leader should have to make those big decisions even if its against the majority so he is giving false hope to Americans of change.
Everyone lies, its just shows how much McCain wants to be president and how much he loves his country
and Palin isn't evil and its good to know what someone stands for if we like it or not. The Hitler point is stupid, you can't compare the two. Maybe if we are going to compare Hitler to anyone it is Obama, it seems both didn't tell the public their full ideas before an election.
I honestly think the highlighted part of that post is the funniest and most ridiculous thing I have ever read on here.

Basically saying that John McCain would make a good president because he's a proven liar. Hilarious!!
:laugh3::laugh3:
So honesty and integrity makes for a bad presidency then???

I needed a good laugh today, and that has definitely given me one!!
I know great argument! crazy as they are!

NettoSuperstar! 23-09-2008 02:20 PM

And creationism she wants that taught in schools alonside evolutionary theory! And shes an end time believer, theyre the most dangerous!

Corkie 23-09-2008 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ruth
http://filthyrag.com/blog/2008/09/th...ter-long-read/

Sarah Palin - doesn't believe in abortion. Says her daughter has made a choice to have her baby - fair enough....except that she wants to deny others that choice.

Was happy for rape victims to be charged for their rape testing kits.

Tried to get her brother in law fired from his job as state trooper, over a personal disagreement.

Was apparently overheard saying, "So Sambo beat the bitch," upon hearing that Obama beat Hillary Clinton for the democratic presidential nominee.

Refers to Eskimos as "Arctic Arabs".

Was asked if she agreed with the Bush doctrine - she wasn't able to say what that doctrine was.

Said that prior to accepting the job as VP candidate, she talked the decision over with her daughters. It has since been proven that she accepted the job before even telling her daughters.

When she became Mayor of Wasilla, the town had NO debt. By the time she left that post, the town was $22 million in debt.

Has been alleged dodgy expense claims.

Talks about a "Palin-McCain administration" (someone needs to remind her, she is VP candidate, not presidential candidate) and referred to McCain as her running mate. (The VP candidate is always referred to as the running mate, not the other way around - frankly if John McCain does get in, he needs to watch his back...she doesn't want to be VP, she wants the top job).

Said that if her daughter got pregnant as a result of rape, she would not allow her to have an abortion.

Is willing to wage war on Russia (thanks, but I've already lived through the threat of one Cold War - I don't fancy going through it again).

Has far less experience than Obama, despite the fact that McCain attacked Obama relentlessly for his lack of experience.

Belongs to a Church which prays to make gay people straight.

Is against same-sex marriage.
WOW! Thanks for that prooves she is just a wierd human being I think theres something not right with her.

Also I fear she'll become the president as John McCain is 72 which is pretty old for such a stressful job. Also what has John McCain got to offer over then being a prisoner of war. America doesn't need a figure like him.

America needs Obama.

Ruth 23-09-2008 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Corkie
WOW! Thanks for that prooves she is just a wierd human being I think theres something not right with her.

Also I fear she'll become the president as John McCain is 72 which is pretty old for such a stressful job. Also what has John McCain got to offer over then being a prisoner of war. America doesn't need a figure like him.

America needs Obama.
I agree with you. And new allegations have surfaced that during his time as a POW, he was collaborating with the enemy. Many of his fellow POWs have said that they do not want him to win the election.

Sarah Palin's own mother-in-law has also said that she will be voting for Barack Obama!!

Ruth 23-09-2008 06:19 PM

Spike - I would suggest that next time you go for a job interview, tell the interviewer that you really really deserve the job because you tell lots of lies. See how far that gets you.

If McCain was the right man for the job, maybe he wouldn't need to tell so many lies.

Spike 23-09-2008 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ruth
Spike - I would suggest that next time you go for a job interview, tell the interviewer that you really really deserve the job because you tell lots of lies. See how far that gets you.
Well Lee kinda did that on The Apprentice and he got the job so I might give it ago
McCain isn't getting the job from an interviewer he is getting it from the American people and if telling lies is the best way about getting it then so be it, his lies have done him well so far

Ruth 23-09-2008 06:38 PM

OMG!!!! I cannot believe you are serious about this!

Has it not occurred to you that if he was the right man for the job, he wouldn't need to lie?

John McCain - is the man who publicly made a joke about women being raped.

John McCain - is the man who joked that Muslims should be given cigarettes so that they would get cancer.

John McCain - is the man who openly chanted 'Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran', and when people protested, he told them to 'get a life'.

John McCain - is behind Obama in the polls, and Sarah Palin's popularity has dropped massively (yeah, she was fine when she was looking pretty and spouting someone else's words, but once she has to think on her own, people realised that she actually was pretty crap).

Would you be happy to have a proven liar running your country? If so, I think you have missed a fundamental point about what politics is about. And if you condone his telling lies to win the presidency, it shows a definite lack of morals/responsibility.

And are you seriously comparing John McCain to Lee McQueen? You are absolutely hilarious!!!! I didn't think you could top your last post for ridiculousness, but congratulations, you have done it!!

Being as your sole argument for McCain making a good president seems to be that he tells a lot of lies, I really don't think I can be bothered discussing this with you any more. I love to listen to people who think differently to me - that's how you learn, after all - but not when they spout the nonsense you've been coming out with.

So....I'll see you around (maybe).

Corkie 23-09-2008 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Spike
Quote:

Originally posted by Ruth
Spike - I would suggest that next time you go for a job interview, tell the interviewer that you really really deserve the job because you tell lots of lies. See how far that gets you.
Well Lee kinda did that on The Apprentice and he got the job so I might give it ago

But the fact of the matter is this isn't a thing on the telly for our entertainment the people of America are voting for the president of America which is important business through out the world.

Spike 23-09-2008 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ruth
OMG!!!! I cannot believe you are serious about this!

Has it not occurred to you that if he was the right man for the job, he wouldn't need to lie?

John McCain - is the man who publicly made a joke about women being raped.

John McCain - is the man who joked that Muslims should be given cigarettes so that they would get cancer.

John McCain - is the man who openly chanted 'Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran', and when people protested, he told them to 'get a life'.

John McCain - is behind Obama in the polls, and Sarah Palin's popularity has dropped massively (yeah, she was fine when she was looking pretty and spouting someone else's words, but once she has to think on her own, people realised that she actually was pretty c**p).

Would you be happy to have a proven liar running your country? If so, I think you have missed a fundamental point about what politics is about. And if you condone his telling lies to win the presidency, it shows a definite lack of morals/responsibility.

And are you seriously comparing John McCain to Lee McQueen? You are absolutely hilarious!!!! I didn't think you could top your last post for ridiculousness, but congratulations, you have done it!!

Being as your sole argument for McCain making a good president seems to be that he tells a lot of lies, I really don't think I can be bothered discussing this with you any more. I love to listen to people who think differently to me - that's how you learn, after all - but not when they spout the nonsense you've been coming out with.

So....I'll see you around (maybe).
they are jokes so why bring that into it, I joke about alot of thing that doesn't mean I mean it and as for the bomb Iran I agree with that.
I would rather have a proven liar running my country rather that someone who has lied but we don't know what about yet. All politicians lie but in this case John McCain has been found out, so i'm not really bothered about the lies because if the truth is known then probably McCain and Obama have told alot more lies than we know of.
You was the one who compare McCain lieing to a job interview so I gave an example of it therefore you made the ridiculous post to begin with

Z 24-09-2008 12:13 AM

The soccer mom vote is up for grabs, seeing as Hilary isn't in the running anymore, hence why Sarah Palin was brought to the forefront. Barack Obama should be mopping up the majority of those soccer mom votes though, I think he might just get into power - plus you have to consider a lot of low income African Americans will actually vote in this election, typically there's a poor turn out amongst the African American community in the USA for elections. Obama for president! Celebritician!

Ruth 24-09-2008 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Spike
Quote:

Originally posted by Ruth
OMG!!!! I cannot believe you are serious about this!

Has it not occurred to you that if he was the right man for the job, he wouldn't need to lie?

John McCain - is the man who publicly made a joke about women being raped.

John McCain - is the man who joked that Muslims should be given cigarettes so that they would get cancer.

John McCain - is the man who openly chanted 'Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran', and when people protested, he told them to 'get a life'.

John McCain - is behind Obama in the polls, and Sarah Palin's popularity has dropped massively (yeah, she was fine when she was looking pretty and spouting someone else's words, but once she has to think on her own, people realised that she actually was pretty c**p).

Would you be happy to have a proven liar running your country? If so, I think you have missed a fundamental point about what politics is about. And if you condone his telling lies to win the presidency, it shows a definite lack of morals/responsibility.

And are you seriously comparing John McCain to Lee McQueen? You are absolutely hilarious!!!! I didn't think you could top your last post for ridiculousness, but congratulations, you have done it!!

Being as your sole argument for McCain making a good president seems to be that he tells a lot of lies, I really don't think I can be bothered discussing this with you any more. I love to listen to people who think differently to me - that's how you learn, after all - but not when they spout the nonsense you've been coming out with.

So....I'll see you around (maybe).
they are jokes so why bring that into it, I joke about alot of thing that doesn't mean I mean it and as for the bomb Iran I agree with that.
I would rather have a proven liar running my country rather that someone who has lied but we don't know what about yet. All politicians lie but in this case John McCain has been found out, so i'm not really bothered about the lies because if the truth is known then probably McCain and Obama have told alot more lies than we know of.
You was the one who compare McCain lieing to a job interview so I gave an example of it therefore you made the ridiculous post to begin with
Well....if you think there's nothing wrong with making jokes about women being raped, or making jokes about giving Muslims cancer, then you can't have many morals of your own. Your attitude is just disgusting. Your attitude to Iran is also disgraceful, and I can't talk with someone who feels the way you do.

And you are saying you would rather have a proven liar as the most powerful man in the world, rather than a man who does not appear to have told any lies whatsoever, but you just happen not to like the second man. That just shows what a loose grip on reality you have. I don't like falling out with people, but I have never read such a disturbing, misguided, and frankly pathetic post on here as those you have posted. Your morals make me sick, and I don't want to talk to someone who has no idea of what they are talking about.

Sorry to the mods - you can do what you have to do, but Spike's posts are just so idiotic and pathetic.

Spike 24-09-2008 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ruth

Well....if you think there's nothing wrong with making jokes about women being raped, or making jokes about giving Muslims cancer, then you can't have many morals of your own. Your attitude is just disgusting. Your attitude to Iran is also disgraceful, and I can't talk with someone who feels the way you do.

And you are saying you would rather have a proven liar as the most powerful man in the world, rather than a man who does not appear to have told any lies whatsoever, but you just happen not to like the second man. That just shows what a loose grip on reality you have. I don't like falling out with people, but I have never read such a disturbing, misguided, and frankly pathetic post on here as those you have posted. Your morals make me sick, and I don't want to talk to someone who has no idea of what they are talking about.

Sorry to the mods - you can do what you have to do, but Spike's posts are just so idiotic and pathetic.
So what if my morals aren't the same as yours, I don't really care
He told jokes, all jokes are offensive in some way and by telling a joke he is of course going to upset a few people but not intentionally, get a sense of humour instead of trying to work all these things against McCain
Get over the whole lies things, i'm sure McCain and Obama have told as many lies as each other but they are running for president and they are doing everything they can. Atleast we know what McCain has told lies about unlike Obama who I just do not trust for all the power to be in his hands.

Fom 24-09-2008 08:36 AM

Im hoping Obama wins the elections, McCain is literally a Bush clone. We have seen the mess bush has made we dont need that carrying on. I havent been following it too well but I think Obama could bring a lot to the country, and change it for the better. From what I have seen from McCain he is everything I dislike in a candidate. When he was on Ellen, when asked about gay marriage he completely ignored it and moved on and he has made so many stupid slip ups about the iraq war.
With Obama it is all about change, about getting troops out of war, about promoting gay marriage as much as the different states will let him. If I was in America I would vote Obama, unless you want George Bush 2.

Fom 24-09-2008 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Spike
I am supporting McCain and Palin

Obama is someone who promises little and wont deliver on those few promises He isn't going to be able to combat things such as terrorism as well as McCain.
McCain will make big decisions for the best even if its against the majority, he isn't afraid to stand up and say what he believes in same goes for Palin
Now what does Obama believe in, not much he doesn't state his policies instead gives people false hope.
Atleas voting McCain we know what we will get and that will be a better America and a better world
Yes but America doesnt need a man who is going to stand up against the nation and make decisions HE thinks is best for them. The American citizens arent babies, they should be the people making the decisions and if the president ignores that then its no good. George bush did it all the time, people complained about the war but he did it anyway.
Atleast Barack Obama will listen to his people, take everything into consideration and discuss it with them.

Ruth 24-09-2008 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Spike
Quote:

Originally posted by Ruth

Well....if you think there's nothing wrong with making jokes about women being raped, or making jokes about giving Muslims cancer, then you can't have many morals of your own. Your attitude is just disgusting. Your attitude to Iran is also disgraceful, and I can't talk with someone who feels the way you do.

And you are saying you would rather have a proven liar as the most powerful man in the world, rather than a man who does not appear to have told any lies whatsoever, but you just happen not to like the second man. That just shows what a loose grip on reality you have. I don't like falling out with people, but I have never read such a disturbing, misguided, and frankly pathetic post on here as those you have posted. Your morals make me sick, and I don't want to talk to someone who has no idea of what they are talking about.

Sorry to the mods - you can do what you have to do, but Spike's posts are just so idiotic and pathetic.
So what if my morals aren't the same as yours, I don't really care
He told jokes, all jokes are offensive in some way and by telling a joke he is of course going to upset a few people but not intentionally, get a sense of humour instead of trying to work all these things against McCain
Get over the whole lies things, i'm sure McCain and Obama have told as many lies as each other but they are running for president and they are doing everything they can. Atleast we know what McCain has told lies about unlike Obama who I just do not trust for all the power to be in his hands.
Good grief - just when I think you have reached the utmost level of stupidity, you go and top it!

I have asked you numerous times, but you completely failed to answer:

HOW DO YOU KNOW that Obama is telling lies? Answer - you don't. You can't.

Try telling a victim of rape or cancer that his jokes are funny. I have a terrific sense of humour (at least I think I do)! but certain things are just not funny.

As for the whole lies thing - sorry I can't respond to your opinion on that, as you have no idea what you are talking about.

I'm not trying to work out all these things against McCain. I have simply done my research and come up with facts. If you could come up with ONE single reason why McCain would be better than Obama (by which I don't mean, you announcing that Obama is telling lies, with no evidence whatsoever), I would be prepared to listen to you. But seeing as your opinion is centred around the fact that a prolific liar is a better choice for president than an honest man, your opinion is worthless.

NettoSuperstar! 24-09-2008 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Spike
Quote:

Originally posted by Ruth
OMG!!!! I cannot believe you are serious about this!

Has it not occurred to you that if he was the right man for the job, he wouldn't need to lie?

John McCain - is the man who publicly made a joke about women being raped.

John McCain - is the man who joked that Muslims should be given cigarettes so that they would get cancer.

John McCain - is the man who openly chanted 'Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran', and when people protested, he told them to 'get a life'.

John McCain - is behind Obama in the polls, and Sarah Palin's popularity has dropped massively (yeah, she was fine when she was looking pretty and spouting someone else's words, but once she has to think on her own, people realised that she actually was pretty c**p).

Would you be happy to have a proven liar running your country? If so, I think you have missed a fundamental point about what politics is about. And if you condone his telling lies to win the presidency, it shows a definite lack of morals/responsibility.

And are you seriously comparing John McCain to Lee McQueen? You are absolutely hilarious!!!! I didn't think you could top your last post for ridiculousness, but congratulations, you have done it!!

Being as your sole argument for McCain making a good president seems to be that he tells a lot of lies, I really don't think I can be bothered discussing this with you any more. I love to listen to people who think differently to me - that's how you learn, after all - but not when they spout the nonsense you've been coming out with.

So....I'll see you around (maybe).
they are jokes so why bring that into it, I joke about alot of thing that doesn't mean I mean it and as for the bomb Iran I agree with that.
I would rather have a proven liar running my country rather that someone who has lied but we don't know what about yet. All politicians lie but in this case John McCain has been found out, so i'm not really bothered about the lies because if the truth is known then probably McCain and Obama have told alot more lies than we know of.
You was the one who compare McCain lieing to a job interview so I gave an example of it therefore you made the ridiculous post to begin with
Mcain- proven Liar
Obama- NO evidence of lying

LargeAndInCharge 24-09-2008 09:40 AM

obama barrack should be the new president!!

NettoSuperstar! 24-09-2008 09:41 AM

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Well....if you think there's nothing wrong with making jokes about women being raped, or making jokes about giving Muslims cancer, then you can't have many morals of your own. Your attitude is just disgusting. Your attitude to Iran is also disgraceful, and I can't talk with someone who feels the way you do.

And you are saying you would rather have a proven liar as the most powerful man in the world, rather than a man who does not appear to have told any lies whatsoever, but you just happen not to like the second man. That just shows what a loose grip on reality you have. I don't like falling out with people, but I have never read such a disturbing, misguided, and frankly pathetic post on here as those you have posted. Your morals make me sick, and I don't want to talk to someone who has no idea of what they are talking about.

Sorry to the mods - you can do what you have to do, but Spike's posts are just so idiotic and pathetic.
So what if my morals aren't the same as yours, I don't really care
He told jokes, all jokes are offensive in some way and by telling a joke he is of course going to upset a few people but not intentionally, get a sense of humour instead of trying to work all these things against McCain
Get over the whole lies things, i'm sure McCain and Obama have told as many lies as each other but they are running for president and they are doing everything they can. Atleast we know what McCain has told lies about unlike Obama who I just do not trust for all the power to be in his hands.
Your morals belong in the gutter! I suppose you think Bernard Manning and Jim Davidson are funny eh! There is point where jokes can cross the line into offensive remarks, and those I think most people with any shred of decency would agree, cross the line

LargeAndInCharge 24-09-2008 09:50 AM

ok stop the handbags people

man up!!


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