piercing babies
 

came across this (warning the pic may upset)
http://news.bmezine.com/2008/10/19/cry-baby/#comments

personally i am against piercing babies and children there is no need for it its only as a fashion statement by the parents imo
i get upset taking my daughter for her injections which are needed and cause her pain so i couldnt personally phantom inflicting pain on her like this
and dont even get me started about the use of piercing guns which are so unhygenic and unsafe compared to needles
i wont allow my daughter to have ears til at 10 years old (older hopefully) and i will be taking her to a proper piercer who uses needles rather than a gun

What kind of weirdo gives a baby a peircing?

i have seen it myself a baby no older than about 3 months screaming claires accessories down while almost being pinned down by the parents

Every Teen mum in Belfast.

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I had my year pierced when I was about 4... I don't know if that's still a 'baby'. I don't see the problem with it being a ear? Aslong as it's nowhere else.

The kids crying at being held down more than the pain... we was going to get my niece's ears pierced when she was younger but now we are going to wait till she is older... you either get it done early and save the pain because the baby seriously never minds. Or get it when they are older, because then they understand.

I personally don't see the problem myself... I have seen 12 year olds scream more than the babies do... they will get over it. Its just like a baby grazing its knee, it cries and cries but stick a lollipop in its face and it forgets. Its easier to do it when they are younger.

I have had my ears pierced since I was 2...
I don't find it wrong..

But I rebelled... LOL
I let them close when I was in Primary School.. you can still see the holes but there is no chance I will put an ear-ring in them.

I personlly think it looks tacky when young kids have a peircing..but thats just me lol

Dobermans have their tails chopped off when they are born, same argument really.

If it is legal to do so, then I don't see a problem.

John Lydon.

I think it's wrong because it's not the poor baby's choice to have it done (obviously)like when i had my ears piericed i was 11/12 and i decided that i wanted it doing..even though i knew it would hurt or whatever.. if i have kids, il probably wait and let them decided if and when they want piercings.

It looks really chavvy and tacky.

Let them make their own minds up when they're older!!

Babies don't have a choice about anything in their little lives. They are totally dependant on their parents. So your excuse doesn't fit.

Erm ... yes they do have control. Not a lot but they do to an extent.

The baby doesn't choose to have their ears pierced, does s/he? Honestly, why not just go the whole hog and cover them with tattoos as well:rolleyes: (disclaimer - I actually really like tattoos - not for babies obviously)!

Holding a baby down and stabbing them with something - however quick it is and however harmless it is - is tantamount to assault.

How?

The fact is, they are totally dependant on others.

But WHY do it? Because their parents think it looks nice?:rolleyes:

if someone said to you, "I'm just going to hold this child down and stab a needle into them," wouldn't you think there was something odd about it?

I'm surprised by how many people on here actually don't see a problem with it.

They have a choice about when to be born right? :hugesmile:
anyway yeah i understand that they're totally dependant on their parents but i mean whywould the parents want to in-flict pain up on their child when it isn't necessary?

same i am both pierced and tattooed

Piercing the ears of a baby is no more painful than a doctor sticking a needle in. If a baby needed attention by a doctor then pain would be what the baby receives for a second or so.

Yes and the doctor is more than likely giving the baby a needle for its own good, ear piercing is not compulsory nor necessary.

You guys are making a mountain out of a molehill... seriously.

The baby forgets about it within minutes!

i dont agree with it i think the child should be at an age where they can make the decision for themselves.Myself,I was 9 when i had mine piereced and then got my belly button piereced at 17.I would never get my childs ears pierced without there say so and id make them wait til they were at least 8

yes but its mostly done with a gun which do hurt more are more unsafe and way more unhygenic
and like i said it breaks my heart when i have to take my daughter (i did just this last week) for her injections which are needed so she is protected against stuff piercing a baby or childs ears is not needed and no need to put a child through unneeded pain imo

I can't answer the question, "WHY do it?", simply because I wouldn't do it myself and I wouldn't advise a parent to do it either. But as it is legal to do so and if a parent wishes to do it to their baby, then I don't see a problem with the procedure. As long as it's carried out by a professional who is licensed and insured, as a mistake could be costly, quite costly.

thats just it though its mostly done by saturday girls in claires or similar who many dont have proper training (i know someone who as a teen worked there and did them and her training was to use the gun on a orange before going onto paying customers)

They make decisions. If a parent tries to give them something or do something they don't like, the parent does something else or gives them something else.

Wrong!

The pain would be short. A matter of a second or more.

Regarding whether piercing is necessary. Well it is never necessary to pierce a baby or even yourself, it is a matter of choice. The argument I see here is that a baby is not given the choice, well a baby is too young to have that privilege. That is upto the parent and if the parent/s choose to have their baby pierced, then you must accept that, as it is legal. Even if it may not seem moral to do so. That is subject to criticism.

I never said it was compulsary or necessary. I only said that I don't see a problem if it is performed on the baby by a professional and the parent/s make that legal decision. I brought the doctor's needle into the argument as a comparitive to the pain which the baby will receive, which would be minor.

Dont you hate it when you get ignored...

LOL

ILY :lovedup:

+ yes the pain of the piercing may only be a ''second or more'' but for the few days after the piercing, every time you lay on it, that hurts plus everytime you have to twist the back to ensure it doesn't go scabby or whatever that isn't very comfortable either, speaking from experience here.

at the end of the day; if i ever have children i will probably wait until they are at the age (10?) where they can decide whether to have a piercing or not.

also im not saying that parents who choose to pierce their babys ears are bad parents or whatever, yes it's legal do what you like it's just not something i would do..

The reason for inventing the gun, was to make piercing a quicker procedure. Your ear/lip/nose/nipple/penis/etc, would be pierced in a split second and that has to be good!

I know that as a good parent, "as I'm sure you are". I am glad to hear that you are doing your child good by having innoculations against polio, diptheria, measles, etc, which is necessary and productive, but not all parents feel that is enough. A minority may wish to exercise their legal right to body pierce their baby and so they do.

How do you know? It hurts for a few weeks until you get used to it

the gun is for ears only the only other place it could be used is nose but if you do it can seriously damage that area

If I heard that a procedure like that was being carried out on a baby or even older, I'd be quite happy to report them to the appropriate authority and have them closed down. It is criminal. Like I said earlier, it MUST be performed by someone who is a professional and every care and attention MUST be taken. We are talking about a baby.

Any parent will tell you that babies can be quite awkward at times. You can give them baby food and they can end up spitting it in your face or throwing it on your lovely carpet. This is why the parent has to take charge, not the baby.

"You have raised a good point there."

I would hope that the professional, "I shall re-emphasize that word", professional should take that into account before carrying out the procedure and inform the parent/s quite clearly of what the baby will go through during and after the piercing/s are carried out. Then and only then should it be performed. But like you point out Gemmer-x, it would trouble me.

That would be a more sensible option and one I would certainly follow, "If I had children, which I don't yet". But I am afraid that some parents decide to exercise their legal right and if it's done properly, then let the piercing begin.

I do think that "Ears" is acceptable, but nose, cheeks and "God forbid" anything more adventurous should be left alone until later in life.

I only know about the guns existance in that field, not the exact areas of the body to which it is used. Thanks for telling me.