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Tom 13-12-2008 11:24 PM

Jeff Buckley = overrated
 
Probably an unpopular opinion but I think that version is overrated and Alexandra's is better

Wildcat! 13-12-2008 11:25 PM

WooW!!!!!! A bit laughable there.

Billy 13-12-2008 11:25 PM

lmao =|

no way is it better.
it's a good version but seriously?

Wildcat! 13-12-2008 11:28 PM

Just because Alex sang it powerfully, doesnt mean its better. Its supposed to be a soft song anyways, if you go by the lyrics, and by the original.

KKBL 13-12-2008 11:31 PM

well there's 3 opinions on this;
1.Alexandras is better
2.Jeff's is better
3.the usual Musical Snob "nothings better then the original" crap(despite the fact most people who say it have'nt actualy ever heard the origina)

think ill go with 2.

Tom 13-12-2008 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Just because Alex sang it powerfully, doesnt mean its better. Its supposed to be a soft song anyways, if you go by the lyrics, and by the original.
Who said it was supposed to be soft? Just because the original is doesn't mean it has to be. Loads of people prefer Leona's Run over Snow Patrol's and Leona sings it in a completely unintended way. Its about putting your own stamp on a song, not singing it in a way just because thats how the original is.

MrGaryy 13-12-2008 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KKBL
well there's 3 opinions on this;
1.Alexandra's is better
2.Jeff's is better
3.the usual Musical Snob "nothings better then the original" c**p(despite the fact most people who say it haven't actually ever heard the original)

think ill go with 2.
I agree, most people think the Jeff Buckley version is the original.

Personally, I adore the Buckley version and hate Alex's. She completely over sings it. I do love Diana's rendition of it though.

I also am not fond of the original (Leonard Cohen).

Wildcat! 13-12-2008 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom
Quote:

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Just because Alex sang it powerfully, doesnt mean its better. Its supposed to be a soft song anyways, if you go by the lyrics, and by the original.
Who said it was supposed to be soft? Just because the original is doesn't mean it has to be. Loads of people prefer Leona's Run over Snow Patrol's and Leona sings it in a completely unintended way. Its about putting your own stamp on a song, not singing it in a way just because thats how the original is.
OK fine. well Jeff Buckleys is way better. Alex's is obviously very good, but it doesnt even begin to touch it. And I am guessing 80% of the people will tell you that.

Lauren 13-12-2008 11:40 PM

A 4 octave range can't be overrated.

Rory 14-12-2008 03:53 AM

Diana's would've been better than Alex's.
Jeff's is better than Alex's, though.

andyman 14-12-2008 03:58 AM

lol diana can not sing! She puts that daft voice on, strange.:puzzled:
Alex is the best but jeff was ok, thats it just ok.

Z 14-12-2008 01:08 PM

Alexandra > Leonard Cohen > Jeff Buckley, in my opinion.

Tom4784 14-12-2008 01:12 PM

If Leonard Cohen or Jeff Buckley's version didn't exist then Alex's would be half decent. It's like Leona's version of Run, decent by itself but compared to the originals it completely misses the point. The production is way too big when it should be understated and the fact they put in a key change and a gospel choir is sickening.

I like Alex but I hate the song. I'll be patiently waiting for original material.

Christina 14-12-2008 01:14 PM

After listening to Jeff's i much prefer Alexandra's.

Hugo 14-12-2008 01:58 PM

Well I can safely say I've never heard that opinion before.

*mazedsalv** 14-12-2008 02:18 PM

Imo, I like the girls version better than Jeff's(dont know her name) but she sang it during the OC when Marisa dies.

Alexandra's version is INCREDIBLE too as was Diana's bootcamp one. Wow!!

MarkWaldorf 14-12-2008 02:20 PM

I hate how people overrate Jeff's version. Yes, it's good, sung with raw emotion and is an instant classic - but it's not the best thing ever.

Personally, I prefer Imogen Heap's version. It's a completely different arrangement and is much more my style. Alexandra's is my favourite version of them all.

Tom4784 14-12-2008 02:21 PM

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Originally posted by *mazedsalv**
Imo, I like the girls version better than Jeff's(dont know her name) but she sang it during the OC when Marisa dies.

Alexandra's version is INCREDIBLE too as was Diana's bootcamp one. Wow!!
The OC one was good.

MarkWaldorf 14-12-2008 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by *mazedsalv**
Imo, I like the girls version better than Jeff's(dont know her name) but she sang it during the OC when Marisa dies.

Alexandra's version is INCREDIBLE too as was Diana's bootcamp one. Wow!!
The OC one is Imogen Heap! :thumbs:

Indierock&roll 14-12-2008 02:22 PM

id laugh if alexandra didnt even get in the top 10.. doubtful but imagine not getting number 1 how embarresing ha

*mazedsalv** 14-12-2008 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Markus
Quote:

Originally posted by *mazedsalv**
Imo, I like the girls version better than Jeff's(dont know her name) but she sang it during the OC when Marisa dies.

Alexandra's version is INCREDIBLE too as was Diana's bootcamp one. Wow!!
The OC one is Imogen Heap! :thumbs:
Thanks :bigsmile:

Hugo 14-12-2008 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Markus
Quote:

Originally posted by *mazedsalv**
Imo, I like the girls version better than Jeff's(dont know her name) but she sang it during the OC when Marisa dies.

Alexandra's version is INCREDIBLE too as was Diana's bootcamp one. Wow!!
The OC one is Imogen Heap! :thumbs:
*cuts in*

FYI

S1 Model Home Fire = Jeff Buckley
S1 Finale = Jeff Buckley
S3 Finale = Imogen Heap

All great parts of The OC :sad:

Hugo 14-12-2008 02:43 PM

Anyway I love Jeff, Imogen and Alexandra's versions.
I totally adore them all, seriously. I think I love Jeff's and Imogen's the most jus because of the OC and Jeff's especially with all of the emotion and rawness. But I do still rate Alexandra's up there with the best.

rayheartbliss 14-12-2008 02:47 PM

well, tbf to alex she did sing it better (in my opinion anyway)
but its her own interpretation of the song, its not meant to be better than the original.

Ninastar 14-12-2008 02:52 PM

I dont even know who he is lol

Hugo 14-12-2008 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ninostar
I dont even know who he is lol
*gasp*

:shocked:

*slaps*

Noel 14-12-2008 03:32 PM

I really like Jeff's version, along with Alexandra's but Kate Voegele's version is pretty good too, IMO :) I prefer Alex's though because it reminds me of her winning and how emotional she was. :)

lily. 14-12-2008 03:36 PM

I think the title of this thread is an insult to Jeff Buckley.

I'd say each of us have a preference for a different version of the song, but that in no way means that any of the artists are over-rated.

The same goes with Snow Patrol/Leona Lewis and the song "Run". Everyone has their preference, and some people like both.

I personally enjoy most of the versions of Hallelujah, but Jeff Buckley's version is the one I find the most emotional.

LaLaLand 14-12-2008 03:41 PM

I don't think that the 'power' in which a song is sung is defined by the strength of the voice. Jeff Buckley's version is spell-bindingly haunting. His style of singing the song really adds to the mood and presence of the song (which is actually about the 'joy of orgasms'). Alexandra's version is amazing, but in a different way to which Jeff's version is.

I think though that in 50 years times people will look back and say "Oh, Hallelujah - that Jeff Buckley song" not Alexandra or Leonard Cohen's.

Damaris 14-12-2008 03:42 PM

This thread is totally insulting. :nono:

Jeff Buckleys version is 300X better than Alexandra and that manufactured piece of ****. :sleep:

rayheartbliss 14-12-2008 03:43 PM

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Originally posted by Jonnii
I don't think that the 'power' in which a song is sung is defined by the strength of the voice. Jeff Buckley's version is spell-bindingly haunting. His style of singing the song really adds to the mood and presence of the song (which is actually about the 'joy of orgasms'). Alexandra's version is amazing, but in a different way to which Jeff's version is.
yerh..exactly

GiRTh 15-12-2008 11:16 AM

Another thread putting across an unnecessarily insulting point of view.

Personally, I think Alex and JLS both murdered a great song. I kind of liked both version up to the point of the key change where they airlift in the big production. There are many quite profound lines that are totally buried by the big production.

The songs going to make a lot of money for a lot of people but Jeff Buckley must be spinning in their grave and I wonder of they'll ask Leonard Cohen how he feel about the version considering it took him almost a year to write the original..

lily. 15-12-2008 11:37 AM

I wouldn't go so far as to say Jeff Buckley would be spinning in his grave. After all, he's not the original artist, so who's he to say how it should be done.

Most musicians will have their work covered badly at some point.

GiRTh 15-12-2008 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Freyja
I wouldn't go so far as to say Jeff Buckley would be spinning in his grave. After all, he's not the original artist, so who's he to say how it should be done.

Most musicians will have their work covered badly at some point.
I think he may well be spinning in his grave. He may not be the original artist but his version is considered the definitive version.

Some musicians dont allow cover versions of their work and its easy to understand why when you hear this over produced , chart friendly, money making version of a great song.

robb 15-12-2008 12:35 PM

My impression was that alex at least gave the song ooomph, but the JLS version was drudgery! I dread to think what egghead would have sounded like. :dance2:

Is this such a good song? The lyrics are strange too, talking about tying people to kitchen chairs, cutting their hair.....Sweeney Todd or bondage? :whistle:
'The joy of orgasms'? Oh, I'd better tell my gran...she thought it was a religious ditty!! :angel:

Locke. 17-12-2008 12:37 AM

Just listened to Jeff Buckley's version (who I hadn't heard of before this week), and thought it was pretty average, Alex's is better IMO.

Tom4784 17-12-2008 12:38 AM

I might have liked Alex's version if it wasn't for the typical X Factorisms such as the key changes and the gospel choir. I don't mind the first minute or so when it's just a guitar with Alex's vocals but then it gets ridiculous.

Scarlett. 17-12-2008 12:43 AM

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Originally posted by robb
My impression was that alex at least gave the song ooomph, but the JLS version was drudgery! I dread to think what egghead would have sounded like. :dance2:

Is this such a good song? The lyrics are strange too, talking about tying people to kitchen chairs, cutting their hair.....Sweeney Todd or bondage? :whistle:
'The joy of orgasms'? Oh, I'd better tell my gran...she thought it was a religious ditty!! :angel:
The song is supposed to have "oomph" it is not a new Girls Aloud song, its supposed to build up quietly

Imagine if they gave "Time to say goodbye" some 'oomph'....*makes sure Simon Cowell isnt lurking

Lauren 17-12-2008 12:49 AM

My opinion is

Jeff Buckley > Leonard Cohen > Imogen Heap.

Musically, Jeff Buckley tops most, if not all, of them. Multi-octave voice and haunting vocals. But obviously I accept others see it other ways.

I really dislike Alex's version, not because of her singing, just because of her style.

Scarlett. 17-12-2008 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lauren
I really dislike Alex's version, not because of her singing, just because of her style.
Aye I agree with that, she aint a bad singer, she was just given the wrong song


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