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Magic 14-12-2008 12:30 PM

TiBB Becoming A Dictatorship
 
Not only are they deleting fun threads, they are now deleting threads complaing about posts being edited and deleted.

Can we not express our views, its a bit pathetic tbh.

DamonJ 14-12-2008 01:20 PM

The only reason I hate TiBB is it is such a formal forum if you like, you cannot have real fun or step one foot out of line, everything has to be perfect & in order.

I love forums where you can spam, swear, insult etc. And surprisingly they are the forums which work best.

On TiBB it's like Mark & mods are standing above you ready to crack the whip for typing in capitals. :nono:

Magic 14-12-2008 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by DamonJ
The only reason I hate TiBB is it is such a formal forum if you like, you cannot have real fun or step one foot out of line, everything has to be perfect & in order.

I love forums where you can spam, swear, insult etc. And surprisingly they are the forums which work best.

On TiBB it's like Mark & mods are standing above you ready to crack the whip for typing in capitals. :nono:
I know, someones post was deleted because he said 'HAPPY BIRTHDAY'.

It's a tad dum.

MarkWaldorf 14-12-2008 01:26 PM

Well it's an internet forum, you shouldn't take it so seriously.

But I do agree. Even if there's a few word in capitals, or capitals used for empthasis on excitement or something, they'll warn you that it needs to be corrected. And the whole thing with threads ALWAYS being moved to Chat and Games! It's not needed.

Wow I really contradicted my first point lmao

Bells 14-12-2008 01:31 PM

I'm guessing you mean dictatorship.

Which fun threads have been deleted? Most tend to be moved to Chat & Games if they are seen as appropriate and are able to be moderated. Threads are moved into the subforums they fit best in - I don't think there's a problem with where it is, as long as people can access it and can understand why it's in there. I don't see why threads would be deleted without good reason. Excessive spamming/swearing/insults don't really work on a form of this size, particularly because its aim is to discuss TV shows (although mainly BB of course), and it usually depends on the kind of forum.

As for the typing in capitals: normally only when posts are reported are we able to monitor absolutely everything, but it still helps a great deal if you do stick to the rules. I would imagine that the 'happy birthday' post was deleted because it didn't really contribute to that particular thread (it could have been serious, for example), rather than it being in a birthday thread. Just a guess.

Of course you can express your views, but rather than complaining (which doesn't normally get us anywhere), if you have an issue with how some of your posts are being edited etc., why not just send a U2U? Much more useful, and keeps issues like this off the forum too where it isn't really necessary for everyone to discuss a private problem.

Magic 14-12-2008 01:32 PM

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Originally posted by Ash
Much more useful, and keeps issues like this off the forum too where it isn't really necessary for everyone to discuss a private problem.
Its not though, its happening to loads of people.

DamonJ 14-12-2008 01:33 PM

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Originally posted by Magic
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Originally posted by Ash
Much more useful, and keeps issues like this off the forum too where it isn't really necessary for everyone to discuss a private problem.
Its not though, its happening to loads of people.
And if you tell an admin about a problem, or a suggestion, chances are nothing will be done about it, whereas if the minority of members agree there's more of a chance of something being done.

Magic 14-12-2008 01:36 PM

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Originally posted by DamonJ
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Originally posted by Magic
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Originally posted by Ash
Much more useful, and keeps issues like this off the forum too where it isn't really necessary for everyone to discuss a private problem.
Its not though, its happening to loads of people.
And if you tell an admin about a problem, or a suggestion, chances are nothing will be done about it, whereas if the minority of members agree there's more of a chance of something being done.
exactally.
What annoys me most is they are even deleting threads which are asking to stop this. I mean, thats like making the forum seem perfect, as any complaints are allowed!

DamonJ 14-12-2008 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by Magic
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Originally posted by DamonJ
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Originally posted by Magic
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Originally posted by Ash
Much more useful, and keeps issues like this off the forum too where it isn't really necessary for everyone to discuss a private problem.
Its not though, its happening to loads of people.
And if you tell an admin about a problem, or a suggestion, chances are nothing will be done about it, whereas if the minority of members agree there's more of a chance of something being done.
exactally.
What annoys me most is they are even deleting threads which are asking to stop this. I mean, thats like making the forum seem perfect, as any complaints are allowed!
I know! It seems TiBB are more concerned about their perfect image than what their members would like & what needs to be done.

Bells 14-12-2008 01:43 PM

If a lot of you are unhappy about posts being edited, we'll have to review the rules then and discuss what the problem exactly is. I don't think it'd be done without good reason. Maybe the issue is that all of this is seeping into normal discussion threads rather than purely Chat & Games threads.

But making bold statements such as "TiBB becoming a dictatorship" really isn't going to get us anywhere. Saying stuff like, not only are "they" etc. I wasn't even aware you were having problems, so making sweeping comments like that doesn't help at all. We generally try our best to moderate this forum as we do it purely to help things run smoothly. As I said, you can definitely express your views and we'll try our best to accommodate them if they're justified, but just labelling the whole thing as pathetic is a little ungrateful and unfair. This place is nowhere near perfect as we can only moderate what's brought to our attention, but it just genuinely helps if you do stick to the rules. Seems pretty logical to me.

Now that I know of this problem (i.e. with editing/deleting threads), I'll bring it up and see if we can come to some sort of compromise. Before you say "nothing's done" etc., have you even sent U2Us about what the problems may be? Magic, you say it's not a private problem, but if the people bothered by actually using that method, chances are it'll be a lot more effective. :)

Billy 14-12-2008 01:46 PM

Id quite like to know where General Chat ends, and Chat + Games begins?

Bells 14-12-2008 01:47 PM

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Originally posted by Billy21
Id quite like to know where General Chat ends, and Chat + Games begins?
That's a really good point, and something I think we will definitely review and probably clarify. It can get a bit confusing as it seems to be a very thin line at the moment.

Magic 14-12-2008 01:47 PM

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Originally posted by Ash
Now that I know of this problem (i.e. with editing/deleting threads), I'll bring it up and see if we can come to some sort of compromise. Before you say "nothing's done" etc., have you even sent U2Us about what the problems may be? Magic, you say it's not a private problem, but if the people bothered by actually using that method, chances are it'll be a lot more effective. :)
Sorry, tbh I have to admit its more the work of one moderator, (who I dont have a problem with). They even edited one of Mark's posts. It seems now you cant have a chat (In Chat and Games!) without seeing the thread edited!

I have reported edited posts before, and asked why.

Matt 14-12-2008 01:48 PM

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Originally posted by Billy21
Id quite like to know where General Chat ends, and Chat + Games begins?
I think it goes like this:

General Chat is for discussions about things that don't fit into other forums, or for discussions that have a point

Chat & Games is for completely off-topic discussion ("Hi", "How was your day" etc) and obviously for games.

But I'm not 100% sure. :thumbs:

Bells 14-12-2008 01:49 PM

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Originally posted by Magic
Sorry, tbh I have to admit its more the work of one moderator, (who I dont have a problem with). They even edited one of Mark's posts. It seems now you cant have a chat (In Chat and Games!) without seeing the thread edited!

I have reported edited posts before, and asked why.
It is a bit odd if Chat & Games posts are being edited, I have to agree.

Bells 14-12-2008 01:50 PM

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Originally posted by Matt
I think it goes like this:

General Chat is for discussions about things that don't fit into other forums, or for discussions that have a point

Chat & Games is for completely off-topic discussion ("Hi", "How was your day" etc) and obviously for games.

But I'm not 100% sure. :thumbs:
I think I might post some sort of sticky in Chat & Games specifying that, as those seem to be the guidelines we follow at the moment.

Magic 14-12-2008 01:51 PM

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Originally posted by Ash
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Originally posted by Matt
I think it goes like this:

General Chat is for discussions about things that don't fit into other forums, or for discussions that have a point

Chat & Games is for completely off-topic discussion ("Hi", "How was your day" etc) and obviously for games.

But I'm not 100% sure. :thumbs:
I think I might post some sort of sticky in Chat & Games specifying that, as those seem to be the guidelines we follow at the moment.
General Chat may be a better place to make it, as thats where the majority of threads are moved from.

andyman 14-12-2008 02:02 PM

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Originally posted by DamonJ

I love forums where you can spam, swear, insult etc.
LOL!!! And what a hellish forum that would be.

Hugo 14-12-2008 02:04 PM

Amen.

30stone 14-12-2008 02:05 PM

Im happy with a lot of stuff that gets deleted or edited as its usually just someone talking nonsence.

pinkmichk 14-12-2008 02:08 PM

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Originally posted by 30stone
Im happy with a lot of stuff that gets deleted or edited as its usually just someone talking nonsence.
totally agree :thumbs:

Billy 14-12-2008 02:09 PM

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Originally posted by andyman
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Originally posted by DamonJ

I love forums where you can spam, swear, insult etc.
LOL!!! And what a hellish forum that would be.
I would have thought you'd like that. Then anyone could vile, scum etc

30stone 14-12-2008 02:11 PM

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Originally posted by pinkmichk
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Originally posted by 30stone
Im happy with a lot of stuff that gets deleted or edited as its usually just someone talking nonsence.
totally agree :thumbs:
lol i forgot to finish my sentance lol i meant its someone usually just talking rubbish lol

Captain.Remy 14-12-2008 02:32 PM

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Message original : 30stone
Im happy with a lot of stuff that gets deleted or edited as its usually just someone talking nonsence.
I agree, sometimes people post crap by dozens. I'm glad some threads are deleted. I wish the mods could delete some members too lol

andyman 14-12-2008 02:38 PM

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Originally posted by Billy21
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Originally posted by andyman
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Originally posted by DamonJ

I love forums where you can spam, swear, insult etc.
LOL!!! And what a hellish forum that would be.
I would have thought you'd like that. Then anyone could vile, scum etc
...:shocked:

ange7 14-12-2008 02:52 PM

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Originally posted by andyman
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Originally posted by Billy21
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Originally posted by andyman
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Originally posted by DamonJ

I love forums where you can spam, swear, insult etc.
LOL!!! And what a hellish forum that would be.
I would have thought you'd like that. Then anyone could vile, scum etc
...:shocked:
I'm with you Billy21 ..."vile, vile vile" that's what I remember you saying all over the place andyman... why the :shocked:?

andyman 14-12-2008 03:09 PM

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Originally posted by ange7
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Originally posted by andyman
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Originally posted by Billy21
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Originally posted by andyman
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Originally posted by DamonJ

I love forums where you can spam, swear, insult etc.
LOL!!! And what a hellish forum that would be.
I would have thought you'd like that. Then anyone could vile, scum etc
...:shocked:
I'm with you Billy21 ..."vile, vile vile" that's what I remember you saying all over the place andyman... why the :shocked:?
... I am truely :shocked::shocked::sad::bawling::bawling:

Sunny_01 14-12-2008 09:09 PM

I agree with what Ash has said, if someone doesnt talk to us about issues they have then how can we be expected to do something about it! I always answer U2U's even if it isnt the answer someone might hope for.

Because of the nature and size of the forum it is quite important to moderate according to the rules. I for one would NOT (see the word in capitals) delete a thread that had a word or two in capitals that were there for emphasis, it;s whole posts in capitals that I would look at. That said we each moderate in a different way following the same guidelines.

When I edit a post I always leave my name on that so if you have an issue with anything I personally remove, delete or edit then speak to ME about it. Speak to the person who has dealt with things rather than create yet another thread to have a whinge about the mods and admin, and remember for all we are mods we are members and hey just for the record we have feelings as well and constant criticism isnt nice.

ange7 14-12-2008 11:04 PM

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Originally posted by Sunny_01
I agree with what Ash has said, if someone doesnt talk to us about issues they have then how can we be expected to do something about it! I always answer U2U's even if it isnt the answer someone might hope for.

Because of the nature and size of the forum it is quite important to moderate according to the rules. I for one would NOT (see the word in capitals) delete a thread that had a word or two in capitals that were there for emphasis, it;s whole posts in capitals that I would look at. That said we each moderate in a different way following the same guidelines.

When I edit a post I always leave my name on that so if you have an issue with anything I personally remove, delete or edit then speak to ME about it. Speak to the person who has dealt with things rather than create yet another thread to have a whinge about the mods and admin, and remember for all we are mods we are members and hey just for the record we have feelings as well and constant criticism isnt nice.
"When I edit a post I always leave my name on that so if you have an issue with anything I personally remove, delete or edit then speak to ME about it."

too bad the rest of admin don't do the same. I tried for days to find out which admin's handy work this was . {url]http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=104104&page=2{url] Not a peep.
All I got was a "Picture removed after complaints were received about the image - admin"

People like to know why their threads are censored. Whether you guys find criticism nasty or nice has nothing to do with how valid the critique is. Was that a call to us to stop complaining when admin get it wrong or can you think of another way to decrease the amount of complaints admin get... ummm say for example listen to them.

lily. 14-12-2008 11:10 PM

Baz had a post edited in the lounge for using capitals. I think we could use some guidance on where we're allowed to chit-chat.

ange7 14-12-2008 11:11 PM

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Originally posted by andyman
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Originally posted by ange7
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Originally posted by andyman
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Originally posted by Billy21
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Originally posted by andyman
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Originally posted by DamonJ

I love forums where you can spam, swear, insult etc.
LOL!!! And what a hellish forum that would be.
I would have thought you'd like that. Then anyone could vile, scum etc
...:shocked:
I'm with you Billy21 ..."vile, vile vile" that's what I remember you saying all over the place andyman... why the :shocked:?
... I am truely :shocked::shocked::sad::bawling::bawling:
Spare us the fake water works mate ... "vile vile scum vile" that's what I remember you saying about everything... especially women. So those tears are pretty inconsistent.

Mrluvaluva 15-12-2008 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by Freyja

Baz had a post edited in the lounge for using capitals. I think we could use some guidance on where we're allowed to chit-chat.
I did indeed, but I can't refer back to it as I edited it back again. :tongue:

Locke. 15-12-2008 01:24 PM

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Originally posted by ange7
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Originally posted by andyman
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Originally posted by ange7
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Originally posted by andyman
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Originally posted by Billy21
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Originally posted by andyman
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Originally posted by DamonJ

I love forums where you can spam, swear, insult etc.
LOL!!! And what a hellish forum that would be.
I would have thought you'd like that. Then anyone could vile, scum etc
...:shocked:
I'm with you Billy21 ..."vile, vile vile" that's what I remember you saying all over the place andyman... why the :shocked:?
... I am truely :shocked::shocked::sad::bawling::bawling:
Spare us the fake water works mate ... "vile vile scum vile" that's what I remember you saying about everything... especially women. So those tears are pretty inconsistent.
He's a changed man, he's been different since he returned.

lily. 15-12-2008 01:26 PM

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Originally posted by Mrluvaluva
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Originally posted by Freyja

Baz had a post edited in the lounge for using capitals. I think we could use some guidance on where we're allowed to chit-chat.
I did indeed, but I can't refer back to it as I edited it back again. :tongue:
I only recall cuz it was my first night back on. I figured mods/admin were maybe watching me to make sure I wasn't guna misbehave lol

30stone 15-12-2008 01:32 PM

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Originally posted by David
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Originally posted by ange7
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Originally posted by andyman
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Originally posted by ange7
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Originally posted by andyman
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Originally posted by Billy21
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Originally posted by andyman
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Originally posted by DamonJ

I love forums where you can spam, swear, insult etc.
LOL!!! And what a hellish forum that would be.
I would have thought you'd like that. Then anyone could vile, scum etc
...:shocked:
I'm with you Billy21 ..."vile, vile vile" that's what I remember you saying all over the place andyman... why the :shocked:?
... I am truely :shocked::shocked::sad::bawling::bawling:
Spare us the fake water works mate ... "vile vile scum vile" that's what I remember you saying about everything... especially women. So those tears are pretty inconsistent.
He's a changed man, he's been different since he returned.
i agree he has. Andys pretty alright now, never used to like him during bb.


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