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John. 08-02-2009 02:12 AM

Scottish Independence! Yeah or Nay?
 
I am a strong supporter of Scottish Independence.

Just wanted to know how people feel over this debate?

Annie 08-02-2009 02:13 AM

We would fail on our own. Sorry but its true. I would love it if we could be independant but it wouldnt work.

30stone 08-02-2009 02:14 AM

dont know much about it so cant really judge on it lol.

John. 08-02-2009 02:16 AM

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Originally posted by Annie
We would fail on our own. Sorry but its true. I would love it if we could be independant but it wouldnt work.
No we wouldn't!!

Did you know that there is huge oil field which is bigger than the North sea oil field which belongs totally to Scotland. and it won't be touched til scotland become independent!!

Conzors 08-02-2009 02:21 AM

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Originally posted by JohnD
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Originally posted by Annie
We would fail on our own. Sorry but its true. I would love it if we could be independant but it wouldnt work.
No we wouldn't!!

Did you know that there is huge oil field which is bigger than the North sea oil field which belongs totally to Scotland. and it won't be touched til scotland become independent!!
Well Scotland wouldnt survive on their own because of many factors. These factors include

1- All the men are mistaking themeleves for women, as they wear skirts with no underwear.
2 - They would die of starvation as they constantly chase 3-legged sheep around hills thinking this is their food.
3 - It is up north, and it will be the first to be hit by a hurricane.
4 - It wouldnt have a stabalised government, as the prime minister would get done for publicly showing themselevs in the nude, and their kilts would fall down reveling his sausage.

Thats my theory of why Scotland cannot survive on its own.

James 08-02-2009 02:30 AM

Nay. It won't happen for a few reasons. For a start Scottish telly after independence would be rubbish. :spin2:

John. 08-02-2009 02:30 AM

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Originally posted by Conzors
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Originally posted by JohnD
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Originally posted by Annie
We would fail on our own. Sorry but its true. I would love it if we could be independant but it wouldnt work.
No we wouldn't!!

Did you know that there is huge oil field which is bigger than the North sea oil field which belongs totally to Scotland. and it won't be touched til scotland become independent!!
Well Scotland wouldnt survive on their own because of many factors. These factors include

1- All the men are mistaking themeleves for women, as they wear skirts with no underwear.
2 - They would die of starvation as they constantly chase 3-legged sheep around hills thinking this is their food.
3 - It is up north, and it will be the first to be hit by a hurricane.
4 - It wouldnt have a stabalised government, as the prime minister would get done for publicly showing themselevs in the nude, and their kilts would fall down reveling his sausage.

Thats my theory of why Scotland cannot survive on its own.
1. did you know that Scottish men were force during WW1 by English soldiers to wear there Kilts in the trenches. and in doing so their knees would be slit open with the ice gathered around the hem, thus subjecting them to more illnesses

2. 3 legged sheep!! hmm at least we don't force our kids to sing Baa Baa Rainbow Sheep instead of Baa Baa Black sheep.

3. Already got hit by a Category 5 Hurricane in January 2007!! 156mph wind and Survived!!!!

4. At least we don't have, quote. "a one eyed scottish idiot" who only pretends to be scottish when it suits him running the country!!!

That's My theory of why Scotland needs to be SET FREE!!!

Annie 08-02-2009 02:31 AM

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Originally posted by James
Nay. It won't happen for a few reasons. For a start Scottish telly after independence would be rubbish. :spin2:
true.

John. 08-02-2009 02:31 AM

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Originally posted by James
Nay. It won't happen for a few reasons. For a start Scottish telly after independence would be rubbish. :spin2:
As a TiBB Administrator you should know that this is the serious debates section! :tongue:

Conzors 08-02-2009 02:31 AM

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Originally posted by JohnD
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Originally posted by Conzors
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Originally posted by JohnD
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Originally posted by Annie
We would fail on our own. Sorry but its true. I would love it if we could be independant but it wouldnt work.
No we wouldn't!!

Did you know that there is huge oil field which is bigger than the North sea oil field which belongs totally to Scotland. and it won't be touched til scotland become independent!!
Well Scotland wouldnt survive on their own because of many factors. These factors include

1- All the men are mistaking themeleves for women, as they wear skirts with no underwear.
2 - They would die of starvation as they constantly chase 3-legged sheep around hills thinking this is their food.
3 - It is up north, and it will be the first to be hit by a hurricane.
4 - It wouldnt have a stabalised government, as the prime minister would get done for publicly showing themselevs in the nude, and their kilts would fall down reveling his sausage.

Thats my theory of why Scotland cannot survive on its own.
1. did you know that Scottish men were force during WW1 by English soldiers to wear there Kilts in the trenches. and in doing so their knees would be slit open with the ice gathered around the hem, thus subjecting them to more illnesses

2. 3 legged sheep!! hmm at least we don't force our kids to sing Baa Baa Rainbow Sheep instead of Baa Baa Black sheep.

3. Already got hit by a Category 5 Hurricane in January 2007!! 156mph wind and Survived!!!!

4. At least we don't have, quote. "a one eyed scottish man" who only pretends to be scottish when it suits him!!!

That's My theory of why Scotland needs to be SET FREE!!!
K.

John. 08-02-2009 02:32 AM

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Originally posted by Conzors
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Originally posted by JohnD
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Originally posted by Conzors
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Originally posted by JohnD
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Originally posted by Annie
We would fail on our own. Sorry but its true. I would love it if we could be independant but it wouldnt work.
No we wouldn't!!

Did you know that there is huge oil field which is bigger than the North sea oil field which belongs totally to Scotland. and it won't be touched til scotland become independent!!
Well Scotland wouldnt survive on their own because of many factors. These factors include

1- All the men are mistaking themeleves for women, as they wear skirts with no underwear.
2 - They would die of starvation as they constantly chase 3-legged sheep around hills thinking this is their food.
3 - It is up north, and it will be the first to be hit by a hurricane.
4 - It wouldnt have a stabalised government, as the prime minister would get done for publicly showing themselevs in the nude, and their kilts would fall down reveling his sausage.

Thats my theory of why Scotland cannot survive on its own.
1. did you know that Scottish men were force during WW1 by English soldiers to wear there Kilts in the trenches. and in doing so their knees would be slit open with the ice gathered around the hem, thus subjecting them to more illnesses

2. 3 legged sheep!! hmm at least we don't force our kids to sing Baa Baa Rainbow Sheep instead of Baa Baa Black sheep.

3. Already got hit by a Category 5 Hurricane in January 2007!! 156mph wind and Survived!!!!

4. At least we don't have, quote. "a one eyed scottish man" who only pretends to be scottish when it suits him running the country!!!!

That's My theory of why Scotland needs to be SET FREE!!!
K.
Good!!! :tongue:

Wildcat! 08-02-2009 02:35 AM

I dot know much about it! So let me ask you, what would be the economic ramifications? HOw would it affect jobs, and the value of the currency?

And secondly, how do people feel about it? If there were a referendum, would it be in favor of independance?

I dont honestly know the answer to these, so am just asking!

Matt 08-02-2009 02:38 AM

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Originally posted by Conzors

K.
That's the same response that your first post deserves.

A.M.A., you can find out more here:
- Wikipedia
- The Independent

I was still living in Scotland I'd be against independence, but I live in England now so I'm not too bothered.

Conzors 08-02-2009 02:40 AM

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Originally posted by Matt
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Originally posted by Conzors

K.
That's the same response that your first post deserves.

A.M.A., you can find out more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_independence

As a Scottish person now living in England, it's not really my place to say, but if I was still in Scotland I'd probably be against independance.
I was clearly joking.
:S

Annie 08-02-2009 02:41 AM

Very clearly!

:thumbs::joker:

John. 08-02-2009 02:46 AM

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Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
I dot know much about it! So let me ask you, what would be the economic ramifications? HOw would it affect jobs, and the value of the currency?

And secondly, how do people feel about it? If there were a referendum, would it be in favor of independance?

I dont honestly know the answer to these, so am just asking!
Economy. Huge oil field which could potentially earn scotland Billions every year!!

replacing what the Thatcher years took away from Scotland and Gave to the rest of the world!!
Shipbuilding, IT, maufactured goods etc etc Jobs would more than likely increase with the way Economy would go!

Currency would more that likely change to €uro. so that it would be easier to sell oil. manufactured goods etc etc!!

It's good that yove taken an interest in the Subject!!

Wildcat! 08-02-2009 02:46 AM

I know you were Joking C! Thanks Matt for the litterature, cant be bothered now though, I will check it out later. I just wanted to know if most scottish people are for or against it! And if it would be a good thing economically!

Annie 08-02-2009 02:51 AM

I'm scottish and I know it wont work.

John. 08-02-2009 02:51 AM

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Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
I know you were Joking C! Thanks Matt for the litterature, cant be bothered now though, I will check it out later. I just wanted to know if most scottish people are for or against it! And if it would be a good thing economically!
People who support SNP Party are for it!

they came into power last May (08) and after the mess that labour got the UK into right now. support in labour will hav dropped.

John. 08-02-2009 02:52 AM

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Originally posted by Annie
I'm scottish and I know it wont work.
I'm born and bred Scottish and i know it could work but people like you need to support it!!!!!

Annie 08-02-2009 02:54 AM

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Originally posted by JohnD
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Originally posted by Annie
I'm scottish and I know it wont work.
I'm born and bred Scottish and i know it could work but people like you need to support it!!!!!
people like me? you have no idea about me?! How can you say that? you have no idea what my political views are. I have only told you that I do not believe that it would work. I havent mentioned anything else so do not assume that you know what KIND OF PEOPLE I AM!

John. 08-02-2009 02:54 AM

I'll Just throw Something else in to support scotland and tell you that the money earned from scottish oil subsedises everyone in the UK by the sum of £6000 every year. where as england is only subsedises everyone by £500 every year!!!

Wildcat! 08-02-2009 02:54 AM

O KAAAY!!! Never mind! Thanks for the chinese!:conf:
*exits thread in shame!*

James 08-02-2009 02:55 AM

Apart from the rubbish TV :wink: we would get (which is a big reason for most people) why would we want border controls, passports to get into England, import taxes levied against Scottish exports/English imports, restrictions on Scottish people working in England etc? All are possible if independence happened.

Looks like I am in an unpatriotic mood, lol.

Wildcat! 08-02-2009 02:57 AM

Damn! William Wallace is rolling in his grave right now!

John. 08-02-2009 03:00 AM

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Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Damn! William Wallace is rolling in his grave right now!
indeed!!

John. 08-02-2009 03:02 AM

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Originally posted by James restrictions on Scottish people working in England etc?
Why would anyone want to work in england after Scotland became the wealthiest country in Europe???

Wildcat! 08-02-2009 03:05 AM

Damn Dude, Youre making some big claims there! Are you certain about that? If so, why havent they been independant for a long time? I dotn see a reason to sit on a chance of becoming the wealthiest country in Europe.

John. 08-02-2009 03:07 AM

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Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Damn Dude, Youre making some big claims there! Are you certain about that? If so, why havent they been independant for a long time? I dotn see a reason to sit on a chance of becoming the wealthiest country in Europe.
Because England can't afford to let us go!!

it's all down to oil and money

Wildcat! 08-02-2009 03:18 AM

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Originally posted by JohnD
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Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Damn Dude, Youre making some big claims there! Are you certain about that? If so, why havent they been independant for a long time? I dotn see a reason to sit on a chance of becoming the wealthiest country in Europe.
Because England can't afford to let us go!!

it's all down to oil and money
But you said that the supposed huge olfield, wont be touched until Scotland is independant! So what does England have to gain fro keeping Scotland in the UK? Wouldnt it be better for England to encourage independance, and negociate a share of that enourmous wealth?

John. 08-02-2009 03:21 AM

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Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
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Originally posted by JohnD
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Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Damn Dude, Youre making some big claims there! Are you certain about that? If so, why havent they been independant for a long time? I dotn see a reason to sit on a chance of becoming the wealthiest country in Europe.
Because England can't afford to let us go!!

it's all down to oil and money
But you said that the supposed huge olfield, wont be touched until Scotland is independant! So what does England have to gain fro keeping Scotland in the UK? Wouldnt it be better for England to encourage independance, and negociate a share of that enourmous wealth?
North sea oil is still in abundance though. that would be like england blackmailing scotland into sharing it's economic wealth.

Firewire 08-02-2009 08:40 AM

SCOTLAND CAN'T BECOME INDEPENDENT!
I HATE Alex Salmond!
We would need a passport to get to England!
The telly would be rubbish!
Gordon Brown is Scottish and the Prime Minister. He won't let it happen.

And Scotland have invented The Bank of England, Bank of France, The Digestive Biscuit, Televison, Telephone, Tarmac, Chicken Tikka Masala, Boys' Brigade, Colour Photography, Penicillin, the Encyclopaedia Britannica, The Post Office + lots more.

So trusts me you need Scotland in the UK.

Masala is in bold because Chicken Tikka was invented in Bangladesh but the Masala sauce was invented in Glasgow.

arista 08-02-2009 08:56 AM

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Originally posted by JohnD
I am a strong supporter of Scottish Independence.

Just wanted to know how people feel over this debate?



Yes


It will be the Legacy of 'Mr. Build Debt on Debt' Brown


He failed the Scottish & British people.

arista 08-02-2009 09:03 AM

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Originally posted by Firewire
SCOTLAND CAN'T BECOME INDEPENDENT!
I HATE Alex Salmond!
We would need a passport to get to England!
The telly would be rubbish!
Gordon Brown is Scottish and the Prime Minister. He won't let it happen.

And Scotland have invented The Bank of England, Bank of France, The Digestive Biscuit, Televison, Telephone, Tarmac, Chicken Tikka Masala, Boys' Brigade, Colour Photography, Penicillin, the Encyclopaedia Britannica, The Post Office + lots more.

So trusts me you need Scotland in the UK.

Masala is in bold because Chicken Tikka was invented in Bangladesh but the Masala sauce was invented in Glasgow.

Wrong
letting Scotland free from English Politics
is a great move forward.

England would still trade with Scotland
it would not change.


And 'Mr Build Debt on Debt' Brown
will not be in power when they are given Freedom.

lily. 08-02-2009 09:18 AM

In theory it sounds like a great idea, but I'm not sure it would work in practice, and once we go independant there's no turning back, so if we fail, we suffer.

arista 08-02-2009 09:22 AM

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Originally posted by Linda
In theory it sounds like a great idea, but I'm not sure it would work in practice, and once we go independant there's no turning back, so if we fail, we suffer.

No Have faith.

It is the Future for a Better Free Scotland.



It will not mean I pay more for my
WalmartAsda Scottish Made ShortBread
it will just have a bigger Flag on it.

James 08-02-2009 02:43 PM

It probably would 'work' economically, after-all other small countries are economically successful - apart from Iceland it seems :sad: . I just think being seperate countries would make things difficult for a lot of people and businesses for the reasons I mentioned previously.

Tom4784 08-02-2009 03:29 PM

I'm not knowledgeable on the subject so my opinion probably won't offer much but surely the UK is stronger when all four countries together? Why Risk making one independant and potentially failing when we can stick together?

arista 08-02-2009 03:42 PM

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Originally posted by Dezzy
I'm not knowledgeable on the subject so my opinion probably won't offer much but surely the UK is stronger when all four countries together? Why Risk making one independant and potentially failing when we can stick together?


Thats because in Politics
we do not stick as one.


Scotland on it's own is a winnner
From Japan to America - they are selling products big time.

England has more to chance of failing
with this hated Scottish PM (Idiot who builds debt on debt)
that Scotland Kicked out
when the SNP won.

Annie 08-02-2009 03:48 PM

mmmm a lot of posts deleted from last night i see...


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