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Lewis. 01-03-2009 08:46 AM

Debate a statement//New topic- Having an abortion is wrong
 
Every week a new statement will be posted for us to debate

Week 1 debate: All rapists should be hung
Week 2 debate: Abortion is wrong


What do you think about abortion then? Do you think it is right or wrong? Debate about it here!

I think that Abortion is not 100% wrong. It all depends on the situation for me. What do you think?

arista 01-03-2009 08:48 AM

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Originally posted by Lewis:)
We were discussing this statement in my GCSE Phsycology class the other day and i wanted to know what you think of this statement and whether you agree to it or not?

The majority of my class agreed to the statement but a few people didn't. I totally agree with this statement to be honest, It is absolutley sickening to force someone to have sexual intercourse with you, making them do things that in some cases, they may not understand. I think it should come under torture and that people who do rape, should be killed. Just by locking them up for a few years, does not mean they are not going to do it again. It is the same with any crime, but rape is a crime that should not be repeated. I find it horrible that the average time a person will get in jail if they rape somebody is3-5 Years

Injection Death is better
Of course it needs to be Voted in.
The Only fast way it would come into the UK
is a World War.

andyman 01-03-2009 08:49 AM

:shocked: You want to kill people?

Lewis. 01-03-2009 08:51 AM

^^ Or as Arista says, Ingection death. But the whole idea is Death. The hanging part was just a word for, Death.

I personally think that if it came into voting with the Public, then it would happen. People these days do not agree to rape and many i have spoken to say that they think rapists should be killed. We need to teach these people a lesson, that they are not allowed to do this and if they do, they must suffer the consequences

Lewis. 01-03-2009 08:52 AM

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Originally posted by andyman
:shocked: You want to kill people?
Rapists. I mean, if they are proven to have raped somebody then in my opinion they have tortured somebody and should be tortured back

andyman 01-03-2009 09:01 AM

What is a worry that you still want to kill people...

Rape is not like murder, plus a woman could crywolf... If a man and woman have sex and she then turns round and reports it as rape...

Lewis. 01-03-2009 09:04 AM

I agree to that, But forensics can tell whether the woman was actually raped, or not. As you may have noticed, i am a strong believer in Capital punishment, and think that with it, we can get rid of all of the phcycos and then we would not be hearing about Murders or rape, on the news and people would be able to live their lives, knowing that the chance of them going out onto the street and getting picked up and raped, would decrease, because people know what will happen, or they have already been kiled

andyman 01-03-2009 09:16 AM

lol... And how can they say if its rape or not if two adults have had sex?
Having barbaric laws will not help and no legal system is perfect!

*mazedsalv** 01-03-2009 09:30 AM

For me, I'd say let them go to jail for life and make them stay there until they die and that will be a slow painful death, the same for if you are in jail for killing someone, dont kill them, make them suffer.

Magic 01-03-2009 09:33 AM

I thought you were like year 7 not GCSE hehe.

Lewis. 01-03-2009 09:44 AM

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Originally posted by Samuel
I thought you were like year 7 not GCSE hehe.
Most people did. :joker: I am in my first year of GCSE

Fom 01-03-2009 10:07 AM

Its 'hanged' not 'hung'
When using the word to say you are hanging a coat it is 'hung' when hanging a person its 'hanged'

A weird part of the british language, but its my fave fact so I had to correct you:laugh:

Captain.Remy 01-03-2009 10:09 AM

Either death sentence or cutting their balls off.
Same predicament for paedophiles.

Jen 01-03-2009 10:09 AM

I hate you Fom, you got there before me.

Tom 01-03-2009 10:42 AM

No, they should be set on fire then extinguished before they die and live with that for the rest of their life. Sadistic but good :eureka:

Jake! 01-03-2009 10:46 AM

No, torture is just fine.

NettoSuperstar! 01-03-2009 11:00 AM

...and the wrongly convicted?

arista 01-03-2009 11:06 AM

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Originally posted by Jake!
No, torture is just fine.
http://www.georgevreilly.com/blog/co...s-thumb-tm.jpg


Yanks doing Torture.



You do not want that Evil Road.

NettoSuperstar! 01-03-2009 11:12 AM

...and the fact that we have evolved to a point (most of us) where we dont just act on our emotions but we use logic and reasoning to decide what is the best thing to do.

Jake! 01-03-2009 11:14 AM

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Originally posted by arista
Quote:

Originally posted by Jake!
No, torture is just fine.
http://www.georgevreilly.com/blog/co...s-thumb-tm.jpg


Yanks doing Torture.



You do not want that Evil Road.
Obviously not Torture Torture like Saw. ****s sake people take words to literally. I mean let em live with what they done. Mental torture obv. God sake.

NettoSuperstar! 01-03-2009 11:19 AM

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Originally posted by Lewis:)
I agree to that, But forensics can tell whether the woman was actually raped, or not. As you may have noticed, i am a strong believer in Capital punishment, and think that with it, we can get rid of all of the phcycos and then we would not be hearing about Murders or rape, on the news and people would be able to live their lives, knowing that the chance of them going out onto the street and getting picked up and raped, would decrease, because people know what will happen, or they have already been kiled
And in America where they have the death penalty...they also have high murder/rape rates. Hmmm yeh really works then??

How about we keep them in humane conditions and try and understand why they did it, dont you think that might help us prevent more cases in future?

Tom 01-03-2009 11:22 AM

They should start using cattle prods and burn "RAPIST" into their foreheads. Then we'd see a reduction :tongue:

NettoSuperstar! 01-03-2009 11:23 AM

Tom!!...and you call yourself a christian? tut tut...what would Jesus say?

Tom 01-03-2009 11:27 AM

I'm not though ... :tongue:

NettoSuperstar! 01-03-2009 11:28 AM

Noone want to answer my questions then? We not into having a reasoned debate on this thread?

Lewis. 01-03-2009 11:31 AM

But, with time, People will start to realise that if they commit a murder then they will be punished. Personally i think Rape should be punished with death, Along with murder and torture. If not punished with Death, then why not show the rapist what it feels like to be raped? Why not put them into a room with an old man and let them feel how it feels to be raped. These crimes cannot carry on and people are not going to learn unless there is a Strict punishment, to scare them from commiting rape

NettoSuperstar! 01-03-2009 11:33 AM

they probably know already what its like to be raped/abused! thats why they do it!

And the US/other places have had the death penalty for years and it hasnt helped one bit

We're beginning to realise (through scientific study) that punishment like hanging etc doesnt work. trying to understand why people did it and rehabilitation works better. Although there are some sex offenders that should be removed from society to protect us until they are no longer a risk....I dont agree they should be treated inhumanely.

Lewis. 01-03-2009 11:38 AM

But they need to be taught that what they are doing is wrong and destroys many peoples Confidence. I think that just locking them up in a room with Xbox 360's and tv, Is not going to make them learn! They need to be cruely punished and hurt, People need to destroy their confidence. An eye for an eye

Lewis. 01-03-2009 11:41 AM

After seeing that you have edited your post: The only way to protect society from the person, is to get rid of them. People are paying money everyday to keep horrible rapists alive in jail and make them nice and comfy. I don't have a ps3. I don't have an Xbox 360. But my Mum is still paying tax thoughout the year to keep these criminals alive and pay for their Xbox 360s and Ps3s. I think that if they are too bad for society then they should be gotten rid of

NettoSuperstar! 01-03-2009 11:44 AM

Removing them from society is enough, some of them have been abused as children, should we really be carrying on the cycle? abusing them more only makes them worse.

Lewis. 01-03-2009 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Removing them from society is enough, some of them have been abused as children, should we really be carrying on the cycle? abusing them more only makes them worse.
Then kill them?

NettoSuperstar! 01-03-2009 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lewis:)
After seeing that you have edited your post: The only way to protect society from the person, is to get rid of them. People are paying money everyday to keep horrible rapists alive in jail and make them nice and comfy. I don't have a ps3. I don't have an Xbox 360. But my Mum is still paying tax thoughout the year to keep these criminals alive and pay for their Xbox 360s and Ps3s. I think that if they are too bad for society then they should be gotten rid of
Lewis we are learning and understanding how they came to do these crimes...it has enhanced our understanding of criminal behaviour, which has helped catch offenders and develop our knowledge of risk. Hopefully it will help us prevent these kinds of crimes from happening again. Kill them, that vital knowledge is gone

Fom 01-03-2009 11:48 AM

You don't get the death penalty for rape anyway, that kind of sentence is for multiple murders or murdering children. You have to do a lot to be put on the death penalty, they don't just give it anyone.

NettoSuperstar! 01-03-2009 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lewis:)
Quote:

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Removing them from society is enough, some of them have been abused as children, should we really be carrying on the cycle? abusing them more only makes them worse.
Then kill them?
Have you heard of Offender profiling? helps us to catch criminals...if we didnt learn from them we wouldnt have that information.

NettoSuperstar! 01-03-2009 11:51 AM

also...what about people who are wrongly convicted?

Fom 01-03-2009 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
also...what about people who are wrongly convicted?
See... there is no way out of that, but to be fair if they didn't get put too death they would be spending a long time in prison wasting away their innocent life. No easy way out of that, its gonna be bad either way.

NettoSuperstar! 01-03-2009 11:54 AM

Bad unless they are lucky and get released...some do. nothing as bad as death. Theyd be blood on our hands

30stone 01-03-2009 12:21 PM

You tourture someone then when they come out of prison chances are they would be mentaly scarred more so than when they raped some one, and are more likely to commit another crime.

As for death, would you really want to an innocent man to actually die? there are still cases where they get the wrong person.

ange7 04-03-2009 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lewis:)
We were discussing this statement in my GCSE Phsycology class the other day and i wanted to know what you think of this statement and whether you agree to it or not?

The majority of my class agreed to the statement but a few people didn't. I totally agree with this statement to be honest, It is absolutley sickening to force someone to have sexual intercourse with you, making them do things that in some cases, they may not understand. I think it should come under torture and that people who do rape, should be killed. Just by locking them up for a few years, does not mean they are not going to do it again. It is the same with any crime, but rape is a crime that should not be repeated. I find it horrible that the average time a person will get in jail if they rape somebody is3-5 Years
:shocked: you scare the ***** out of me...

arista 04-03-2009 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ange7
Quote:

Originally posted by Lewis:)
We were discussing this statement in my GCSE Phsycology class the other day and i wanted to know what you think of this statement and whether you agree to it or not?

The majority of my class agreed to the statement but a few people didn't. I totally agree with this statement to be honest, It is absolutley sickening to force someone to have sexual intercourse with you, making them do things that in some cases, they may not understand. I think it should come under torture and that people who do rape, should be killed. Just by locking them up for a few years, does not mean they are not going to do it again. It is the same with any crime, but rape is a crime that should not be repeated. I find it horrible that the average time a person will get in jail if they rape somebody is3-5 Years
:shocked: you scare the **** out of me...


Its OK Ange
unless we get a World War
these Laws will not come in.


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