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Harry! 07-04-2009 12:27 PM

Parkinson slams Goody
 
http://uk.tv.yahoo.com/blog/article/138886/

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Sir Michael Parkinson has launched a tirade against Jade Goody.

The veteran broadcaster told the latest issue of Radio Times that the late reality TV star represented "all that is paltry and wretched about Britain."

He said: "Jade Goody has her own place in the history of television and, while it's significant, it's nothing to be proud of. Her death is as sad as the death of any young person, but it's not the passing of a martyr or a saint or, God help us, Princess Di.

"When we clear the media smoke screen from around her death, what we're left with is a woman who came to represent all that's paltry and wretched about Britain today.

"She was brought up on a sink estate, as a child came to know drugs and crime, was barely educated, ignorant and puerile. Then she was projected to celebrity by Big Brother and became a media chattel to be exploited til the day she died."

His comments come just days after Jade Goody was laid to rest following a funeral that drew comparisons with that of Princess Diana. Thousands of mourners lined the streets and threw flowers as the hearse made its way to the service in Buckhurst on Saturday.

Axiom 07-04-2009 12:28 PM

What an insensitive, jealous old prick.

Hugo 07-04-2009 12:45 PM

:sad:

xDramatick 07-04-2009 12:55 PM

I agree with him.

I'm gonna get screamed at for it but it's my opinion so I don't care.

andyman 07-04-2009 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Satisfaction
I agree with him.

I'm going to get screamed at for it but it's my opinion so I don't care.
Middle class and stuck up!..


:bigsmile:

andyman 07-04-2009 01:01 PM

Wonder if everyone becomes a vile bitch with old age...

ange7 07-04-2009 01:12 PM

barely educated, ignorant and puerile....all that is paltry and wretched about Britain.

correct :P

lily. 07-04-2009 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Satisfaction
I agree with him.

I'm going to get screamed at for it but it's my opinion so I don't care.
I agree with him too, and I'm used to being screamed at for it. lol

andyman 07-04-2009 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ange7
barely educated, ignorant and puerile....all that is paltry and wretched about Britain.

correct :P
Same about most places around the world.. With Britain the mother bitch.

ange7 07-04-2009 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by andyman
Quote:

Originally posted by ange7
barely educated, ignorant and puerile....all that is paltry and wretched about Britain.

correct :P
Same about most places around the world.. With Britain the mother bitch.
agree and Oz has more than it's fair share but what's interesting is why some Brits put her on a pedistal and make her out to be a martyr.

Tom4784 07-04-2009 01:37 PM

I think he's comments were taken out of context, it sounds like he was slamming the media coverage and the sadness of her early life, he says her death was as tragic as any young person passing. Read between the lines people.

If you were to listen to everything he said he probably didn't slam Jade much at all it's just the article has been written in such a way that creates a story. But we'll never know that sicne we only got the snippets which paints him as the antagonist of the story.

Novo 07-04-2009 01:39 PM

Ahem Parkinson your 100% correct

Am glad he has the balls to actually Voice His opinion

Shaun 07-04-2009 01:40 PM

He's slamming British celebrity culture more than her, per se.

But he's spot on.

pinkmichk 07-04-2009 01:40 PM

i agree with him too

andyman 07-04-2009 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ange7
Quote:

Originally posted by andyman
Quote:

Originally posted by ange7
barely educated, ignorant and puerile....all that is paltry and wretched about Britain.

correct :P
Same about most places around the world.. With Britain the mother bitch.
agree and Oz has more than it's fair share but what's interesting is why some Brits put her on a pedistal and make her out to be a martyr.
Most people are nation proud, Americans come first in that! But i think most people are like that but fail to see the real truth with how Britain became a rich empire, the cost still with us today, but nearly every nation has its dark history... Better to know about it than sweep it under the carpet.

Hold up the mirror to any nation and the ugly truth will always look back at them.

Lauren 07-04-2009 02:21 PM

I don't think he's slamming Goody, he's moreso slamming the celeb-culture we hold in Britain.

One thing I don't like, is his pompous nature though. The way he starts his rant as "She was brought up on a sink estate, as a child came to know drugs and crime, was barely educated" - this is hardly a negative portrayal of someone, it's unfortunate for her - but this in itself doesn't make her a bad person.

Twilight 07-04-2009 02:28 PM

sink estate barely educated don't make you all that is paltry and wretched about Britain. What made him so special?

Twilight 07-04-2009 02:28 PM

sink estate barely educated don't make you all that is paltry and wretched about Britain. What made him so special?

Novo 07-04-2009 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Twilight
sink estate barely educated don't make you all that is paltry and wretched about Britain. What made him so special?
he received an honorary doctorate from the University of Lincolnshire and Humberside. He was invested as a Commander of the Order of the British Empire (CBE) by Prince Charles in November 2000 for services to broadcasting. Parkinson was made a Knight Bachelor in the 2008 New Year's Honours List; he remarked that he was "not the type to get a knighthood" coming as he did "from Barnsley. They give it to anyone nowadays."

Parkinson was ranked 8th in a list of the 100 Greatest British Television Programmes drawn up by the British Film Institute in 2000, voted for by industry professionals. In April 2006, Parkinson was awarded Honorary Patronage of the University Philosophical Society (Trinity College, Dublin). He was voted number 20 in ITV's "TV's 50 Greatest Stars".

On 4 June, 2008 his knighthood was bestowed by the Queen at Buckingham Palace

Since 2005, Parkinson has served as the President of the Sports Journalists' Association of Great Britain, the largest national organisation of sports journalists in the world.

Parkinson became the first Chancellor of Nottingham Trent University on 11 November, 2008. His role includes representing the university and conferring degrees at graduation ceremonies. He is quoted as saying, “I am honoured to be offered the chancellorship at Nottingham Trent University. In television I have always worked with young, ambitious people and I am keen to be involved in this university which helps to realise the aspirations of the young. It will also give me an opportunity to see what I missed!”

Dom:D 07-04-2009 02:47 PM

:bawling:

supernoodles! 07-04-2009 02:59 PM

snobby old fart

Locke. 07-04-2009 03:02 PM

100% Correct Parky.

SiaSiaSia 07-04-2009 03:45 PM

i don't want to cause an argument, but i do see where he's coming from

ange7 08-04-2009 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by .Andy.
Quote:

Originally posted by Twilight
sink estate barely educated don't make you all that is paltry and wretched about Britain. What made him so special?
he received an honorary doctorate from the University of Lincolnshire and Humberside. He was invested as a Commander of the Order of the British Empire (CBE) by Prince Charles in November 2000 for services to broadcasting. Parkinson was made a Knight Bachelor in the 2008 New Year's Honours List; he remarked that he was "not the type to get a knighthood" coming as he did "from Barnsley. They give it to anyone nowadays."

Parkinson was ranked 8th in a list of the 100 Greatest British Television Programmes drawn up by the British Film Institute in 2000, voted for by industry professionals. In April 2006, Parkinson was awarded Honorary Patronage of the University Philosophical Society (Trinity College, Dublin). He was voted number 20 in ITV's "TV's 50 Greatest Stars".

On 4 June, 2008 his knighthood was bestowed by the Queen at Buckingham Palace

Since 2005, Parkinson has served as the President of the Sports Journalists' Association of Great Britain, the largest national organisation of sports journalists in the world.

Parkinson became the first Chancellor of Nottingham Trent University on 11 November, 2008. His role includes representing the university and conferring degrees at graduation ceremonies. He is quoted as saying, “I am honoured to be offered the chancellorship at Nottingham Trent University. In television I have always worked with young, ambitious people and I am keen to be involved in this university which helps to realise the aspirations of the young. It will also give me an opportunity to see what I missed!”
mahaha .. nice work ....

Emzy-!! 08-04-2009 03:35 PM

I agree with him.
Many people die of cancer and their names aren't all over the papers.
And I certainly don't think she should be compared to Princess Diana!!!!

GiRTh 08-04-2009 03:43 PM

He's slamming the celebrity culture, the media for giving it so much coverage and the public for their appetite for it. And he's one hundred percent right.

arista 09-04-2009 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by GiRTh
He's slamming the celebrity culture, the media for giving it so much coverage and the public for their appetite for it. And he's one hundred percent right.




Yes he is right
and the BBC Radio Times
hates Big Brother
so for there readers they all agree.

lily. 09-04-2009 09:52 PM

Sign of the Times Arista.. :thumbs:

Fom 09-04-2009 10:00 PM

I think if he wants to make that point he should only use her as an example and not have a go at her, she was a nice woman, maybe not educated and not a 'lady' but is that honestly her fault? It is all she knows, she shouldnt be called Princess Di, but thats exactly what she is for the poorer generation.

She helped a lot of people and most of the time had a smile, but she was relatable to the poorer section of britain, I think people like Parkinson need to realise that not everyone is brought up with a great education and you do get the more common people from poorer familes. It is shallow minded to think that, but I think Parkinson was getting there but then got a bit too personal.

As bold as this sounds, Jade Goody is the Princess Di for the poorer society.

MrGaryy 09-04-2009 10:00 PM

I agree with that Fom, I've been trying to convey that for so long.

Tom 09-04-2009 10:03 PM

Theres a huge class divide over it

People who are middle class and above (or pretend to be that they are when really they're just high end working class) tend to look down thinking they're better

Working class seem to be more sympathetic and accepting, probably because one of "them" managed to make something of themselves

i think he has every right to put his opinion across and good on him for having those views especially after everything but to say shes everything whats wrong with the country is unfair imo

lily. 09-04-2009 10:05 PM

****** me Fom, that's offensive.

I'm from your 'poorer' area, and I don't find her relatable at all!

Fom 09-04-2009 10:06 PM

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but my opinion is that I believe his opinion is wrong and un fair. He was getting to the right point and then went too far.

Fom 09-04-2009 10:07 PM

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Originally posted by lili
****** me Fom, that's offensive.

I'm from your 'poorer' area, and I don't find her relatable at all!
Maybe I shouldn't group the poor together but I am saying it on a general scale. People like Jade Goody's family. You know the type.

I didn't look up too her but I knew people like her, and I was happy for her while she was alive.

lily. 09-04-2009 10:10 PM

I don't relate to her at all. I was brought up on a council estate, and we never had money. I don't even relate to her. I made the most of what I had, and made the most of the education I had. Ok, I didn't go to university, but I left school, got a job, and attended college part-time.

I don't consider that I 'made something of myself' or dragged myself out of the gutter. I definitely don't consider people like Jade Goody to be "one of us".

She's the furthest thing from me or anyone I relate to.

And, to be honest, you come over as a middle-class spoilt brat in that post.

Tom 09-04-2009 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lili
I don't relate to her at all. I was brought up on a council estate, and we never had money. I don't even relate to her. I made the most of what I had, and made the most of the education I had. Ok, I didn't go to university, but I left school, got a job, and attended college part-time.

I don't consider that I 'made something of myself' or dragged myself out of the gutter. I definitely don't consider people like Jade Goody to be "one of us".

She's the furthest thing from me or anyone I relate to.

And, to be honest, you come over as a middle-class spoilt brat in that post.
Some people probably thought she had an endearing quality first time around ... everyone knows a Jade (although to a much much lesser degree and she was just a characature [sp?])

I think thats what he's getting at when he says relatable

Fom 09-04-2009 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lili
I don't relate to her at all. I was brought up on a council estate, and we never had money. I don't even relate to her. I made the most of what I had, and made the most of the education I had. Ok, I didn't go to university, but I left school, got a job, and attended college part-time.

I don't consider that I 'made something of myself' or dragged myself out of the gutter. I definitely don't consider people like Jade Goody to be "one of us".

She's the furthest thing from me or anyone I relate to.

And, to be honest, you come over as a middle-class spoilt brat in that post.
I think you are taking my post a little to serious, I generalized to get a point across, I didn't mean all poor people look up to her and idolize her. I thought people would get what I was getting at.

I am not middle class and I am not spoilt.

lily. 09-04-2009 10:17 PM

You have to admit that you seriously generalised the 'poorer people'.

If someone were to post on here generalising about Blacks or Muslims, I'm sure I wouldn't be the only one who would get *****ed off about it.

Maybe I'm the only one on here who wants to admit I'm not middle-class.

Tom 09-04-2009 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lili
You have to admit that you seriously generalised the 'poorer people'.

If someone were to post on here generalising about Blacks or Muslims, I'm sure I wouldn't be the only one who would get *****ed off about it.

Maybe I'm the only one on here who wants to admit I'm not middle-class.
I hate the terms 'poorer people' and 'lower class', I think they almost dehumanise someone. I think working class is a lot better ... but I don't really think class matters anyway because class divides are merging and just because you have money doesn't mean you're any better than someone who doesn't ...

Fom 09-04-2009 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lili
You have to admit that you seriously generalised the 'poorer people'.

If someone were to post on here generalising about Blacks or Muslims, I'm sure I wouldn't be the only one who would get *****ed off about it.

Maybe I'm the only one on here who wants to admit I'm not middle-class.
Right well if it offended you I take back what I said, it was not meant offensively. I am sure some people think I go out there to insult people, I didn't go out to do that.

And I just admitted I am not middle-class, but I don't think thats important.


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