France wants to ban women from wearing burkhas
 

French President Nicolas Sarkozy
wants to stop women wearing the burkha

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...say-the-French


France a Nation at boiling point




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Sign Of The Times.

good

the UK would never do anything like that or say anything like that in fear of offending someone

Yes they have wanted to for a long time, after they made a girl remove one in a school and it caused a big uproar..

Thats a bit unfiar if its a part of a religion.

France is a laic country so it's all fair. Religion signs are forbidden in public place, burkha is one of them. They can do that in private but not outside.
A big majority of French people agrees with this law.

But they have come to france to live, so they must live by french law.

It's part of a foreign religion, not one that is from France.

Exactly. France is a democracy + a laic country. There's no official religion here, we're free to have any religion we want but we can't expose any religion signs at work and in public places.

When I have worked in England, it ''shocked'' me that a muslim woman did wear one. I wasn't used to it, women can't do that here.

it has nothing to do with showing it in public, it has to do with separating them from french culture. If they wish to leave what ever **** country they come from to enjoy a better life here in France then they should be willing to accept French culture, society and standards. One of which is women don't walk around with giant sheets over themselves.

It's got everything to do with showing it in public, it's against what France stands for: laicity, which is a big principle here.
I do agree they have to adapt themselves to the French culture and our society. And they are still criticizing what they got here while they wouldn't complain about anything in their own country. It pi$$ses me off. If they aren't happy about it, they should go back to where they belong.

It would be a bit like me turning up for work in a balaclava! Its hard when you can't see facial expressions and its just another way to keep a woman down!

laicity is just the seperation of state and religion which exists in pretty much every european nation.

True.

So what ? These countries didn't react the same way and are maybe less 'protective' about that principle. France is very attached to it, we even got threaten by Bin Laden if we don't take that law back (the one about religions signs a few years ago)
You just cannot expose it in public places, simple as.

France does not Care.


And I Know there is no God.

Yeh I agree about the god thing. I just dont see how it can happen.

So are you against or for this law ?

And you take the 'There is no god' from your point of view of course. :thumbs: But yet this is not the debate right now.

It is Typical of France.


This is why we must get Out of the Select Corrupt Club the EU.

Do you think it'll happen Remy? It seems a bit extreme to me.

I agree with this law too.

Im unsure, France has been talking about it for over a year now, so could take any time.

Like the driving age in England has taken like almost 4 years to be changed.


I don't really mind if they do or don't i think after a while they will, but it will cause uproar.

Oh yes it will and sooner than we think. It's the national hot topic right now. It's a priority in Sarkozy's mind. And he's right to be honest. I'm a christian and I'm not alowed to show a cross so why would those muslim women do have the right to expose their religion choices ? Unfair.

Care to elaborate ? :thumbs:

It changed? I didn't know.

People in high places are over-sensitive to the muslim religion.

I don't think muslims should be treated worse than non-muslims, but nor do I think they should be treated better.

Also, someone raised a good point about adapting to the country you live in. I totally agree with that. I hate when someone goes to one of the countries with strict moral laws, then complains they can't get their tits out on the beach. If you don't like the law of the land, don't go there.

It's about respecting the country and the laws of that country. I wouldn't go and live in a lot of countries of the world, because I don't agree with their laws/customs. If muslim women (or those who think for them) wish to wear their burkhas, they should live in a country where that's acceptable practice.

France is a Catholic Nation
of Farmers
so it is Typical.

Yes apparently people who are born after 1992 have to be 18 now,

I think. Thats just what i was told the other week.

We're not in 1800 anymore you know. Things have changed. :thumbs:

And we aren't all farmers lol Less than UK if you ask me. :laugh:

Yeah, that's right.

Oh, cheers Ben.. hadn't heard about that. I wonder if it applies in Scotland too.


-I passed my test in 1992- lol

arista, I find your generalisations about France quite offensive.

Having been in France
I know there attitude stinks.




Sign Of The Times.

Capt.Remy
France thinks like Farmers.
That is the problem.

Right. I think you reached your lowest point of 'French frog' but it looks like you're digging your hole deeper....Mr Roast Beef. :laugh:

We may be very conservative but at least we have a government which does actually things and spared us of that huge financial crisis. Well, we're less affected than the rest thanks to our government. If we were all farmers we would have been right dead.
Now tell me, who between British and French are the biggest farmers huh ? :wink:

We know that, we're the worst tourists in the whole world and the less welcoming of all but still, it's the most visited country in the world. :thumbs:

Back on topic now, just tell me how that law is bad Arista. And in a full paragraph please, not 2 sentences that don't mean anything.

Our Farmers have scalled down
due to lack of proper funding.



Roast Beef is Cool.


The French Company Total in the UK can do things
they can not in the Farming Nation of France.

The law is Typical of France
who are changing under New Political Directions.
More will come,
it will keep them in power
so I can see why he does it.



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EU Mess
upsets French Farmers.

I saw this on the news last night. Had a bit of an argument about it with my housemate. He said they should all pack off home and they have no right and went on a rather vulgar foreigner rant.

As I foreigner in France I can sympathise with these people however it doesn't mean I agree. I'm against the somewhat "Danielle Llyod" views but when we look at it in black and white the law is the law.

I'm no fan of Sarko but for once I actually agree. The one thing I love about France is that there is no actual religion, no desire to know one's religion and everyone is equal because of that. Coming from a very broken island it's very refreshing to see a no tolerance act on anything remotely religious. Repeating what lots of people have said you live by the laws of the land. France is a brave modern country daring to remind people that we are not living in the days where Rome was Emperor of the World and showing that equality for everyone is more important than being afraid of relaitve minorities who do their best to topple the apple cart.

I've been in France for almost a year now. I love this country and will be forever grateful for the opprtunites I have been given. I hope to spend my life here or if not another few years at least. I really don't think I or any other newcomers to France have the right to moan and complain because IMO they should be very grateful that another country would have them especially one that has such strict immagration laws as France.

Yes
I can see how you see France as being Brave.