Homophobic vs. Heterophobic
 

Considering some of the posts today, and general experiences from my life when i lived in London/Brighton/Exeter I want to put this discussion to the forum.



How come a gay club refuses entry to straight people and is allowed to do that, but if a straight club did it to a gay person it would be a form of homophobia?


Surely the gay clubs are a bit Heterophobic?

Some people have spoke to say it's because straights cause trouble, but most straight people I know have no issue, and Gay men are just as likely to cause a fight or bitch fest.


Gay pride is all about celebrating gay's being equals, yet I sometimes find the 'Gay world' a bit hypocritcal because sometimes we don't treat others as equals???


What's the forums opinions on this (please no spats or arguments, just people's opinions). :thumbs:

I'd say the word you're looking for is "heterophobic" not "straightophobic"

I prefer straightophobic. lol. :wink:

Simple- minority-majority...Do you see straights goin about asking for Straight rights? No that would be silly, they have it anyway and straight people have never had to fight prejudice against straights lol

Clubs do what they want
but it is in order to not get fights
so it is Common Sense.


Unless you want punch Ups.


What a silly thread.
You can not change peoples views.

I think gay clubs are necessary as it's hard for gay people to find others in a normal club situations. It;s hard in general for gays to find a partner.

I don't know about you but I have never seen a club that turns away straight people... these clubs and events are where gay people can go and celebrate themselves and feel safe... being able to kiss in a club and not get beat up.
If straight people want to go nothing is stopping them, seriously, have you seen straight people being turned away?

Erm it's not silly.

and I'm not trying to change people's minds.

I'm asking questions on people's thoughts. I've been to many Gay clubs and most of the trouble caused is by gay men/lesbians, not straight people.

Any gay club I know allows straight people to enter? How can they refuse entry to a straight person and how can they even determine everyone's sexuality?
I get what you mean though. The whole point of Gay Pride is for equality, so in theory, that means there should be no difference.
But I know if a flamboyantly gay guy went into some thuggish football supporting pub, they would be bound to get some abuse.

Yep, my mate once got turned away for 'looking too straight'. He got well pissy, because he was gay, but the bouncers wouldn't believe him.

I've never seen a gay club turn away a straight person? How can they tell anyway?

Yes it is Silly
you are asking why they refuse straight folks?


Its because they do not want Fights.



Silly Thread
you have made.

Well that is that one club, you get arsey bouncers like that. I went to a normal club and a friend got turned away because he had no girls with him. Stuff like this happens but don't judge all gay clubs turning away straight people, that was probably one time... and a stupid thing for the bouncer to do.

I don't get the argument, straight people complain about gay clubs when there are about 20 times more straight clubs. Because essentially straight clubs do the same, they could not let someone in for looking too gay, they are mainly full of straight people and if a gay person walks in they get treated differently. If you dont like gay clubs dont go, but straight people are welcome, I work in a gay bar and if im honest it is mostly straight people in there but it is a place where the straight people accept guys kiss guys and they can freely stand at the bar kissing!

then no offence don't bother posting it. Find somewhere else mate.


I can assure you most fights in gay clubs are caused by gay men themselves fighting with each other, not straight men.

Pink in Liverpool City Centre.

Probably chavs

As a member
I can Post and Prove a Silly Thread.

I do not need to find some place else.

trufax.

I'm not judging all. Most are ok, but there are quite a few that turn straight people or people who are straight acting/looking away.


Yet if a 'straight club' did this for being too Gay, it would be a form of homophobia? How come it's never seen as heterophobia when the other way around? That's what I want to know.

Who? The people trying to get in? Well no :joker: We tried to get in and they told us "you can't come in because you aren't gay". Didn't particularly want to go in there anyway, was just following the crowd.

Were they dressed accordingly and acting sober? You dont get turned away just because of your sexuality no one cares, but if your dressed in trackies it is understandable why they get turned away. Even if they were wearing trainers they can get turned away.

Whatever you say David:wink: jus kiddin...well I bet you looked like a mob who wanted to take the piss or summat (not that you were)

Nope, dressed properly. Jeans, shoes, shirt. No other club had a problem letting us in.

I've been to many gay clubs and never been asked what my sexuality is...mind you that might be on account of my penchant for dungarees LoL (I joke)

Probably because being straight is accepted in the country, it is normal so people tend not to get offended by it. Do you get offended if someone insults you for being white? I don't, I aint arsed what people think of my colour... these places turning you away for being straight are places not worth going. Don't judge all gay bars/clubs because there are a few bad ones, it happens in loads of clubs, getting turned away for ages.

Chances are if you are straight and look like you have never seen a gay person before you will get turned away for safety, they don't need a group of young men pointing and laughing at the one place they feel accepted.

Thats due to you being Female.

Females can be homophobic too though. So it's sexist if they let straight females in, but not straight males?

well arista i can't stop you posting, that your choice.

But I personally don't think this thread is silly.

One, it's generating a discussion (on something other than Freddie/Sree etc)

and two

it's interesting to see people's opinions on subject matters like this.

ahhh right lol

Exactly, thats just clubs in general, they have a right to turn you way for any reason they want too, it is their club. If they think someone is going to cause trouble they can turn you away.

But coming from personal experience it's gay guys who actually cause the most trouble in gay clubs.

When you get the camp ones bitching and having a fight, an ex seeing his ex with another guy and starting etc.

Well do the math

Wrong nothing like a Sree post
How Very Dare You.


And Of course you will not see your 'own thread' as Silly.


Every poster is at a Level
yours is a Good Level, however.

Yes It is Sexist out there
It is a Jungle.


Next!

We were all born from a man and woman doing the dog. Dont that kind of make heterophobia impossible? Overused term IMO.

LoL Arista...on fire 2nite

I wouldn't go into a gay bar anyway, it's not my place IMO.
Also, I dont enjoy face to face talks with overly camp gay guys.
I have a cousin who is gay and he is one of those guys who when he says he's gay to people they are shocked because he always looks very straight. He has never been turned away for looking too straght.

Is it not generating a discussion? Is not showing people's opinions? Is it not a topic that hasn't been discussed many times on here?

I admit some of my posts are silly, like the one about Kris vs a can of baked beans with the tiny sausages in, but to me this one isn't.

I'm getting to see people's opinions on things and I'm finding it interesting, even if nobody else does. :tongue::love:

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Nothing Wrong with that.