Have to back NOIRIN
 

I hate to say it, cos siavash has been my favourite for a while, but im back noirin in that arguement, He lied and shudnt have done, freddie backing him u and lying was just as bad

I see Noirin is hated on here a lot, but come on guys...

I mean i know she promised not to say anything...but if u were her, i would want to know if people think i was a rabbit, sorry...

She did NOT plan to tell everyone that it was Siavash who said it, she remained calm and did not jump to the chance to sell out Siavash which is exactly what she should of done in the first place to show how much of a bloody liar and evil ****** he really is.]

Also Halfwits outburst was totally bulls**t and he does not even know what went on so he had no bloody right telling her what to do.

I'm sorry but i felt bad for Noirin there, she did not deserve to get played like that, then the only person that was there to possibly give evidence was Marcus and he left her in the lurch to face that mob!

People are gonna say...oh noirins a bitch blah blah....but you know she was *********g right there.

But he wasnt lying :\, one of the few times Siavash actually says anything about another housemate and Noirin just goes and does that. She knew it would start something.

He was lying, kris and karly never said that.

Believe me i hate admitting it but its true

karly and kris said about her jumping from group to group, they didn't call her a rabbit, that's just how siavash explained it.

They DID say it though! 2 days ago at the bus stop when talking to Lisa, who said the same thing! Siavash overheard them!

Didn`t he overhear them say it the other night

Nobody will trust her again.
She now has alienated herself from both groups.

Exactly!
Sure, I don't like how Noirin kind of turned on him, and I really wish she hadn't said anything to the group or just brushed off the comment since everybody talks about everybody and she needs to realize she is no exception.

But I've yet to hear exactly what SHE said that Siavash was threatening to expose her for saying about the "Cool" clique.

"I'll never tell them what you said about them"
"What did I say"

Indeed. What did she say? She never said anything. Not in that exchange at least.

And has anyone found out one way or another whether or not Kris and Karly actually said "she moves from group to group" with the "Bunny Rabbit" metaphor being a move of creative nicknaming on Siavishe's part (because I agree with Marcus...no way in the world they could ever come up with anything clever. Ever.)

I find Rabbit to be the single most offensive insult ever conceived, i'm sure Gavin complained to ofcom regarding this obscenity.

Yeah. He just didn't word it correctly.

He heard them say it at the bus stop.

The bit I like was she had promised not to mention it before he would tell her how she seemed to others.

The editing was quite bad, it didn't resemble the full arguement, nor did it cover her pulling matcus out of bed to back her up, marcus' reaction, her comments to Freddie, and her diary room chat

They did say that about her but like stefani said " they didn't call her a rabbit, that's just how siavash explained it"
So he and Freddie didn't lie.

so have you changed your mind now ellie, or do you still back the evil bitch?

Changing the subject, but who was it, Kris or Marcus, who said that Sophie might go because she was so quiet? They both denied actually saying this.

Why did he bactrack in the middle of an argument then???

have they seriously mentioned it before? i mean the hopping from group to group?

i'm not sure how relevant it is though cuz i think she really betrayed them all by making such a big deal about it. i don't think the highlight show emphasised how vindictive she is......she was swearing and shouting and being bitchy about it all night on live feed.

I dont how anyone can blame Noirin for wanting to know who said what & why she was dubbed "rabbit".

the only time he lied was when he said he didnt say those names,
he only said that because he didnt want it to get out which is why he told noirin not tell, and she swore she wouldnt but she did.

and karly and kris did say it so. they were lying saying they would "never say anything about her because they like her"

Hmm still lied, was a good argument though brightened up the week.

Imagine if you was getting shouted at by 5 people at the same time.

Eh, I wouldn't try and lie my way out of what I was saying...

We don't know what Noirin said about the vile group (if anything) because by the time LF came on last night the 'rabbit' discussion had already taken place and it would have been edited tonight. Noirin herself said that she hadn't said anything she wouldn't say to their faces, including the fact that she didnt trust Karly, but she KNEW that Siavash wouldn't come out and say any of it because he doesn't break confidences, unlike Noirin herself.

Lisa, Karly and Kris ALL called Noirin a 'group jumper' 2 days ago when sat at the bus stop...and Siavash was there and heard them say it...that was on LF.

So yes he did lie and say he never said the names Karly and Kris, obviously trying to cover for them, landing himself totally in the **** at the same time.

At the end of the day he regarded Noirin as his friend and was trying to help her out, and she royally screwed him over. He shouldn't have lied....he should have just come out and pointed the finger at karly and Kris but he didn't, and was trying to cover his ass at the same time.

she was told something in confidence btween friends. the way she reacted to it was horrendous- turning into a witch- hunt. how mature. and she was swearing all through it on live feed.

There was certainly a better way for handling it.

And I just kept saying over and over while watching "YOU PROMISED YOU WOULDN'T SAY ANYTHING"

It irritates me to no end when people can't keep their word.

I back....BOTH of them. I can understand that Siavash may have heard whatever he heard lol. But who was it that was saying that? Hmm? Wouldn't be Karly and Lisa would it?

I know a lot of people hate Noirin, as the OP said, but both her and Siavash ARE victims of bitching, which has lead to this huge argument.

I still like them both equally the same, although i think Siavash has dug his own grave. Noirin is very honest and if something happened to me like that, i'd do exactly the same as her.

She nominated him they're hardly friends.. oh and swearing god help us all.

And this entire notion of groups with impenetrable boarders just pisses me off when it comes to them. Their qualifications of a "group jumper" just aggravates me.

Girl gets along with certain aspects to two very different group personas. She obviously is playing the field and a game. You either stick to a side or your a devilish fence jumper. Because obviously you can't like and enjoy the company of one group and find something redeeming about the other.

>_>

noirin is not honest. she's been out for siavash all week long. commenting on his clothes...anything to set him off. she realised this was an opportunity for her to stir **** up and latch onto lisa's group again, becuz she thinks that either marcus or freddie will go and wants to distance herself from the easy targets. such a game player

Yeah he did over hear it, when Kris and Karly were talking about it. Silly OP.. no knowledge of what they are trying to say

I deffo remember Lisa, Karly and Kris saying at the bus stop how Norin jumps from group to group. Siavash only used the word 'rabbit or bunny' as if to explain to Norin what they meant. Norin was deffo in the wrong here. She promised Siavash that she would say nothing and then she goes to bedroom and asks everybody, in turn, to swear on their familys life that they did not say she was a rabbit. Well Norin I have a better name for you. SLAG.

And a backstabbing, disloyal SLAG at that! :thumbs:

i'm telling you though.... she'll probably stay till the bitter end unless she's up for eviction. i think that's her strategy anyway- stay on for as long as possible. don't think she interested in winning.... just wants exposure and shes getting it. hate her but it's working

noirin is not honest. she's been out for siavash all week long. commenting on his clothes...anything to set him off. she realised this was an opportunity for her to stir **** up and latch onto lisa's group again, becuz she thinks that either marcus or freddie will go and wants to distance herself from the easy targets. such a game player

I kinda agree ... That if i was an Noirin i would of wanted to know if Siavash was lieing or not, but she shouldn't of blown it out of proportion.

Shes being made the enemy because of Editing :hello:

Siavash is a bit of an idiot for trusting her.
Bunnygate is the ****** version of Spitgate from last year

actually they were quite good to noirin on the edit... she was a total wagon on live feed. my god, you should have seen her...dismissing them all...calling freddie a freak and a liar and didn't want to talk to him anymore. he tried to talk to her sympathetically outside bedroom and she was having none of it. she also stood at bedroom door and listened in on siavash talking to rest of them

Why would you back Noirin if you only know half of the story

Siavash told her something in private, not to leave outside that convo.

She then told the entire lisa group.

She then put Siavash on the spot, and basically tried to crank names out of him, which he didn't want to, because ...

It was making him dig his own grave, socially. Not right.

he did hear it apparently...two days ago at bus stop

Yes sorry, I was getting a little confused.

He told Noirin that they (Kris/Karly) said it to eachother, and he's 110% sure that they think she's a bunny rabbit.

A long way of saying that he overheard them bitching about her in this way.

He only did try to dodge things and say to Kris/Karly that he said nothing about them, to save his ass after being fed to the wolves.

In other words, he was forced to manuevre and lie a bit, because Noirin totally wrecked everything.

exactly. she was trying to destroy him basically. terrible betrayal. just worry that the highlights didn't give a true representation of what went down last night...... really sloppily but together.