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calyman 13-07-2009 10:17 PM

The bullies now believe they are the bullied
 
The duplicity, hypocrisy and double standards of Lisa's lot is beyond belilef. At the start, they were the dominant group, they thought nothing of ganging up on mass to victims like Angel, Freddy, Marcus etc. There was no consideration for any fairness in their bullying dialogues.

Now Lisa complains that Noirin and Marcus were being "agressive" to her (I obvioulsly missed that).

Charlie, Chris, Lisa etc took what they wanted and damm the rest, yet when Freddy dared to do likewise he was shot down in flames by them.

The dynamic has now changed so much, the bullies are feeling under pressure, in between bitching about all; they complain that is exactly what the rest are doing. Even when Rodrigo suggests to them, they get more involved, Lisa speaks for her cohorts that they are fine where they are. meanwhile dogface, karly and charlie wait, slack jawed for further instructions from She who wants to be obeyed.

Like I said, a bunch of duplicitious hypocrites

xmynxiex 13-07-2009 10:28 PM

Well worded and lisas delusional behavior is whats brought her little world crashing down. Her tune has suddenly changed on freddie but it wont wash with me. Her eviction is going to be the sweetest ever. :xyxwave:

Marc 13-07-2009 10:29 PM

Lisa is just a total BELLEND

calyman 13-07-2009 10:39 PM

Incidentally, did anyone see the sly look Karly had when she said dogface was in the kitchen with Markus and Noirin....and they would all soon know what was said. dogface did just as they expected and ran to let lisa's lot know what had been said.

BB_Eye 13-07-2009 10:52 PM

Quite right. Lisa's butter-wouldn't-melt attitude is ridiculously transparent. A lot of people are getting the blame for things that she is in fact responsible for.

Akerbie 13-07-2009 11:02 PM

Another point about the food that no one has mentioned [or I've missed]. Noirin said to Charlie about pasta cos Charlie was eating food that he shouldn't have had and now that they were left with very little. He had takenn more than his share, but made out that he didn't realise. I am fed up with Charlie's pretence that he does not realise things as a cop out to escape responsibility! He maybe a nice guy, but he is very selfish, and has been getting away with it since day one.

Remember the time Charlie and Kris used a token to buy themselves alcohol, and they didn't intend to share it with the rest of the group.

Selfish and greedy! He swans around Lisa, cos he needs protecting, or just plain can't stand up to her cos he doesn't want to be seen as the bad guy in her eyes. Well, no one ever by playing it safe.

I hope he doesn't make the final, but he probably will cos he skims under the radar.

Thank God Karly has been detected.

rusticgal 13-07-2009 11:03 PM

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Originally posted by calyman
The duplicity, hypocrisy and double standards of Lisa's lot is beyond belilef. At the start, they were the dominant group, they thought nothing of ganging up on mass to victims like Angel, Freddy, Marcus etc. There was no consideration for any fairness in their bullying dialogues.

Now Lisa complains that Noirin and Marcus were being "agressive" to her (I obvioulsly missed that).

Charlie, Chris, Lisa etc took what they wanted and damm the rest, yet when Freddy dared to do likewise he was shot down in flames by them.

The dynamic has now changed so much, the bullies are feeling under pressure, in between bitching about all; they complain that is exactly what the rest are doing. Even when Rodrigo suggests to them, they get more involved, Lisa speaks for her cohorts that they are fine where they are. meanwhile dogface, karly and charlie wait, slack jawed for further instructions from She who wants to be obeyed.

Like I said, a bunch of duplicitious hypocrites

Well said Calyman...and tonight proved that where Dogfaces loyalties lie...

BBObsesserxX 13-07-2009 11:04 PM

LOL

wilful_woodpecker 13-07-2009 11:09 PM

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Originally posted by Akerbie
Another point about the food that no one has mentioned [or I've missed]. Noirin said to Charlie about pasta cos Charlie was eating food that he shouldn't have had and now that they were left with very little. He had takenn more than his share, but made out that he didn't realise. I am fed up with Charlie's pretence that he does not realise things as a cop out to escape responsibility! He maybe a nice guy, but he is very selfish, and has been getting away with it since day one.

Remember the time Charlie and Kris used a token to buy themselves alcohol, and they didn't intend to share it with the rest of the group.

Selfish and greedy! He swans around Lisa, cos he needs protecting, or just plain can't stand up to her cos he doesn't want to be seen as the bad guy in her eyes. Well, no one ever by playing it safe.

I hope he doesn't make the final, but he probably will cos he skims under the radar.

Thank God Karly has been detected.
Yes, Charlie seem to come over as being the nice guy, but there have been a number of occasions when he has done what I thought were "nasty little things" (he poured water over somebody's head) then pretends "but it was just a joke" when it backfires.

I was quite surprised to see how much they seem to be eating halfway through a lean week

charliegimbert 13-07-2009 11:11 PM

Lisas "gang" will be "smoked" out soon :cheer2:

LipticBoven 13-07-2009 11:38 PM

I found it funny that lisa was trying to play the victim today. Saying that Marcus and noirin wanted her to starve, and also saying at the bus stop that it wasn't "fair" that she was against noirin and marcus in the arguement.

No1 is saying that lisa can't eat, they are just saying she should eat the food that big brother provides, not the food they spent there share on the budget on.

Lisa also said that noirin and marcus spend tokans on booze, but it is infact kris, charlie, karly, and dogface that are always in the diary room asking to exchange tokans.

Rodrigo2Win 13-07-2009 11:49 PM

Couldn't agree more.

golden 13-07-2009 11:51 PM

Erm anyone remember how nasty Markus used to be or how nasty Noirin was to Angel or how patronising Freedie used to be??
When I hear the word nasty or bully I don't think of the 'Lisa' group...:rolleyes:

jet 14-07-2009 12:00 AM

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Originally posted by golden
Erm anyone remember how nasty Markus used to be or how nasty Noirin was to Angel or how patronising Freedie used to be??
When I hear the word nasty or bully I don't think of the 'Lisa' group...:rolleyes:
I remember! I don't think the 'Lisa' group are bullies - I think Marcus is the real **** stirrer and bully. He is targeting Lisa, like he targeted Sree, and you are all falling for it.

golden 14-07-2009 12:03 AM

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Originally posted by jet
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Originally posted by golden
Erm anyone remember how nasty Markus used to be or how nasty Noirin was to Angel or how patronising Freedie used to be??
When I hear the word nasty or bully I don't think of the 'Lisa' group...:rolleyes:
I remember! I don't think the 'Lisa' group are bullies - I think Marcus is the real **** stirrer and bully. He is targeting Lisa, like he targeted Sree, and you are all falling for it.
:thumbs::spin::spin:
People just don't see it...I don't get it!:shrug:

kisywisy 14-07-2009 12:04 AM

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Originally posted by LipticBoven
I found it funny that lisa was trying to play the victim today. Saying that Marcus and noirin wanted her to starve, and also saying at the bus stop that it wasn't "fair" that she was against noirin and marcus in the arguement.

No1 is saying that lisa can't eat, they are just saying she should eat the food that big brother provides, not the food they spent there share on the budget on.

Lisa also said that noirin and marcus spend tokans on booze, but it is infact kris, charlie, karly, and dogface that are always in the diary room asking to exchange tokans.
her point was that kris said they could have his share, but they knew all along that someone was going to be evicted on friday when they did the shopping list (another portion) so she's wrong to just take the food. it should be shared among the house. she's hardly starving, karly's manged it.

plus, she didn't even eat it all!! she did it to make a point, to cause an argument. the way she walked into the kitchen and paced about whistling, spoke to marcus and then made a point of bringing noirin into it... just wanted an argument. then she's got the gall to moan that they were ganging up on her!! she started having a one on one conversation and then brought noirin in on it, knowing that both her and marcus felt the same way.

playing to the camera. does she think that'll work??

plus, i think karly disagreed with lisa at the bus stop about the food thing. she said in the kitchen that she didn't mind eating basic food. when lisa went on a rant about how she was going to eat it, karly kept quiet.

calyman 14-07-2009 12:20 AM

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Originally posted by golden
Erm anyone remember how nasty Markus used to be or how nasty Noirin was to Angel or how patronising Freedie used to be??
When I hear the word nasty or bully I don't think of the 'Lisa' group...:rolleyes:
I don't remember Marcus or Noirin being as nasty to Angel as Lisa's lot were.

I do remember Charlie throwing water over Angel and the rest of Lisa's lot smirking about it
I do remember Lisa turning the air blue with her curses to Angel
I do remember Kris, Lisa, Karly, Charlie all ganging up on Angel
I do remember Lisa's lot ganging up on Freddy when he made salad
I do remember Noirin and Angel being close
I do rember kris and Charlie stealing Marcus' beer
I do remember Freddy having supportive conversations with angel.



That's enough remembering :bored:

alchemists1 14-07-2009 12:39 AM

A few good points made in this thread and I agree with most of it,obviosly except for the delusional golden,the dk head gang have been arrogant and nasty since day 1 and thou they could get away with it and are now trying to play the victims but nobody is fooled,and as for charlie I agree he has been sly and nasty and playing stupid doesnt wash,its like all the bullying he done to angel playing up for the entertainment of team bore he thou he could say he likes her and that would justify all the nastyness,he has been in the wrong numerous times but never admits it,and is always stirring it and playing dumb.

alchemists1 14-07-2009 12:40 AM

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Originally posted by calyman
The duplicity, hypocrisy and double standards of Lisa's lot is beyond belilef. At the start, they were the dominant group, they thought nothing of ganging up on mass to victims like Angel, Freddy, Marcus etc. There was no consideration for any fairness in their bullying dialogues.

Now Lisa complains that Noirin and Marcus were being "agressive" to her (I obvioulsly missed that).

Charlie, Chris, Lisa etc took what they wanted and damm the rest, yet when Freddy dared to do likewise he was shot down in flames by them.

The dynamic has now changed so much, the bullies are feeling under pressure, in between bitching about all; they complain that is exactly what the rest are doing. Even when Rodrigo suggests to them, they get more involved, Lisa speaks for her cohorts that they are fine where they are. meanwhile dogface, karly and charlie wait, slack jawed for further instructions from She who wants to be obeyed.

Like I said, a bunch of duplicitious hypocrites
I'd co-sign that,you've put it well couldnt explian it any better myself.

jet 14-07-2009 12:41 AM

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Originally posted by calyman
Quote:

Originally posted by golden
Erm anyone remember how nasty Markus used to be or how nasty Noirin was to Angel or how patronising Freedie used to be??
When I hear the word nasty or bully I don't think of the 'Lisa' group...:rolleyes:
I don't remember Marcus or Noirin being as nasty to Angel as Lisa's lot were.

I do remember Charlie throwing water over Angel and the rest of Lisa's lot smirking about it
I do remember Lisa turning the air blue with her curses to Angel
I do remember Kris, Lisa, Karly, Charlie all ganging up on Angel
I do remember Lisa's lot ganging up on Freddy when he made salad
I do remember Noirin and Angel being close
I do rember kris and Charlie stealing Marcus' beer
I do remember Freddy having supportive conversations with angel.



That's enough remembering :bored:
Can you remember all of Marcus' nastiness as well, or have you a one track mind?

alan1965 14-07-2009 12:42 AM

no one being bullied. sorry you watching same show so sad. some people get a life.so there you go.halfwit if anyone bullies.he starts somthing then wonders off.and big bro takes it all out of context too make h/ms look bad.what they always do.half-wit is a wanker like what he just done 1.42

jet 14-07-2009 12:46 AM

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Originally posted by kisywisy
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Originally posted by LipticBoven
I found it funny that lisa was trying to play the victim today. Saying that Marcus and noirin wanted her to starve, and also saying at the bus stop that it wasn't "fair" that she was against noirin and marcus in the arguement.

No1 is saying that lisa can't eat, they are just saying she should eat the food that big brother provides, not the food they spent there share on the budget on.

Lisa also said that noirin and marcus spend tokans on booze, but it is infact kris, charlie, karly, and dogface that are always in the diary room asking to exchange tokans.
her point was that kris said they could have his share, but they knew all along that someone was going to be evicted on friday when they did the shopping list (another portion) so she's wrong to just take the food. it should be shared among the house. she's hardly starving, karly's manged it.

plus, she didn't even eat it all!! she did it to make a point, to cause an argument. the way she walked into the kitchen and paced about whistling, spoke to marcus and then made a point of bringing noirin into it... just wanted an argument. then she's got the gall to moan that they were ganging up on her!! she started having a one on one conversation and then brought noirin in on it, knowing that both her and marcus felt the same way.

playing to the camera. does she think that'll work??

plus, i think karly disagreed with lisa at the bus stop about the food thing. she said in the kitchen that she didn't mind eating basic food. when lisa went on a rant about how she was going to eat it, karly kept quiet.
Playing to the camera's? Noirins bossy rant the other night about the 'rabbit' thing was the playing to the cameras if ever I saw it. What a short memory you have.

kisywisy 14-07-2009 12:47 AM

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Originally posted by alan1965
no one being bullied. sorry you watching same show so sad. some people get a life.so there you go.halfwit if anyone bullies.he starts somthing then wonders off.and big bro takes it all out of context too make h/ms look bad.what they always do.half-wit is a *****r like what he just done 1.42
1.42??:puzzled:

kisywisy 14-07-2009 12:51 AM

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Originally posted by jet
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Originally posted by kisywisy
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Originally posted by LipticBoven
I found it funny that lisa was trying to play the victim today. Saying that Marcus and noirin wanted her to starve, and also saying at the bus stop that it wasn't "fair" that she was against noirin and marcus in the arguement.

No1 is saying that lisa can't eat, they are just saying she should eat the food that big brother provides, not the food they spent there share on the budget on.

Lisa also said that noirin and marcus spend tokans on booze, but it is infact kris, charlie, karly, and dogface that are always in the diary room asking to exchange tokans.
her point was that kris said they could have his share, but they knew all along that someone was going to be evicted on friday when they did the shopping list (another portion) so she's wrong to just take the food. it should be shared among the house. she's hardly starving, karly's manged it.

plus, she didn't even eat it all!! she did it to make a point, to cause an argument. the way she walked into the kitchen and paced about whistling, spoke to marcus and then made a point of bringing noirin into it... just wanted an argument. then she's got the gall to moan that they were ganging up on her!! she started having a one on one conversation and then brought noirin in on it, knowing that both her and marcus felt the same way.

playing to the camera. does she think that'll work??

plus, i think karly disagreed with lisa at the bus stop about the food thing. she said in the kitchen that she didn't mind eating basic food. when lisa went on a rant about how she was going to eat it, karly kept quiet.
Playing to the camera's? Noirins bossy rant the other night about the 'rabbit' thing was the playing to the cameras if ever I saw it. What a short memory you have.
?? did i say noone else had played to the camera in my post??

we're not talking about the whole 'bunnygate' situation. the topic's about lisa playing the victim.

:conf:

boomoo 14-07-2009 12:54 AM

Lisa and Karly agreed to eat basic food so they could spend their money on cigarettes. Lisa said that she did not expect the non smokers to go ahead with that thinking she would get a share of the meat.

There was no bullying involved just a statement of fact.
Next time she will be lucky to get her cigarettes. Karly will probably be gone.

It is Charlie who constantly says that Halfwit talks down to people. What he means is that his command of the english language is so poor he does not understand basic english. Some of the words he says he does not know what they mean is beyond belief. I thought everyone knew what quirky meant. Or am I talking down to people.
Charlie is constantly munching cereal with milk at night no wonder they are short of rations.

jet 14-07-2009 12:55 AM

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Originally posted by kisywisy
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Originally posted by jet
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Originally posted by kisywisy
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Originally posted by LipticBoven
I found it funny that lisa was trying to play the victim today. Saying that Marcus and noirin wanted her to starve, and also saying at the bus stop that it wasn't "fair" that she was against noirin and marcus in the arguement.

No1 is saying that lisa can't eat, they are just saying she should eat the food that big brother provides, not the food they spent there share on the budget on.

Lisa also said that noirin and marcus spend tokans on booze, but it is infact kris, charlie, karly, and dogface that are always in the diary room asking to exchange tokans.
her point was that kris said they could have his share, but they knew all along that someone was going to be evicted on friday when they did the shopping list (another portion) so she's wrong to just take the food. it should be shared among the house. she's hardly starving, karly's manged it.

plus, she didn't even eat it all!! she did it to make a point, to cause an argument. the way she walked into the kitchen and paced about whistling, spoke to marcus and then made a point of bringing noirin into it... just wanted an argument. then she's got the gall to moan that they were ganging up on her!! she started having a one on one conversation and then brought noirin in on it, knowing that both her and marcus felt the same way.

playing to the camera. does she think that'll work??

plus, i think karly disagreed with lisa at the bus stop about the food thing. she said in the kitchen that she didn't mind eating basic food. when lisa went on a rant about how she was going to eat it, karly kept quiet.
Playing to the camera's? Noirins bossy rant the other night about the 'rabbit' thing was the playing to the cameras if ever I saw it. What a short memory you have.
?? did i say noone else had played to the camera in my post??

we're not talking about the whole 'bunnygate' situation. the topic's about lisa playing the victim.

:conf:
Sorry! I read your post wrongly. :flowers:

kisywisy 14-07-2009 12:56 AM

forgiven lol :hug:

golden 14-07-2009 12:59 AM

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Originally posted by alchemists1
A few good points made in this thread and I agree with most of it,obviosly except for the delusional golden,the dk head gang have been arrogant and nasty since day 1 and thou they could get away with it and are now trying to play the victims but nobody is fooled,and as for charlie I agree he has been sly and nasty and playing stupid doesnt wash,its like all the bullying he done to angel playing up for the entertainment of team bore he thou he could say he likes her and that would justify all the nastyness,he has been in the wrong numerous times but never admits it,and is always stirring it and playing dumb.
Why am I delusional? Because you don't agree with me? Lol:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

jet 14-07-2009 01:01 AM

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Originally posted by kisywisy
forgiven lol :hug:
Thanks! :kiss:

I'm just touchy about Lisa and Karly cos I like them! Don't mind me! :thumbs:

kisywisy 14-07-2009 01:01 AM

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Originally posted by boomoo
Lisa and Karly agreed to eat basic food so they could spend their money on cigarettes. Lisa said that she did not expect the non smokers to go ahead with that thinking she would get a share of the meat.

There was no bullying involved just a statement of fact.
Next time she will be lucky to get her cigarettes. Karly will probably be gone.

It is Charlie who constantly says that Halfwit talks down to people. What he means is that his command of the english language is so poor he does not understand basic english. Some of the words he says he does not know what they mean is beyond belief. I thought everyone knew what quirky meant. Or am I talking down to people.
Charlie is constantly munching cereal with milk at night no wonder they are short of rations.
you're not talking down to people. they think coz he's articulate, he's talking down to them and trying to prove he's better than them. totally wrong. i mean, do they really expect him to dumb himself down just to communicate with them?? freddie is being who he is, an educated man, and he's being punished for it!!

jet 14-07-2009 01:03 AM

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Originally posted by golden
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Originally posted by alchemists1
A few good points made in this thread and I agree with most of it,obviosly except for the delusional golden,the dk head gang have been arrogant and nasty since day 1 and thou they could get away with it and are now trying to play the victims but nobody is fooled,and as for charlie I agree he has been sly and nasty and playing stupid doesnt wash,its like all the bullying he done to angel playing up for the entertainment of team bore he thou he could say he likes her and that would justify all the nastyness,he has been in the wrong numerous times but never admits it,and is always stirring it and playing dumb.
Why am I delusional? Because you don't agree with me? Lol:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

I think you are very sensible and fair, Golden!

fitz2k2 14-07-2009 01:04 AM

big brother need to punish lisa just for her talking lol

golden 14-07-2009 01:06 AM

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Originally posted by calyman
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Originally posted by golden
Erm anyone remember how nasty Markus used to be or how nasty Noirin was to Angel or how patronising Freedie used to be??
When I hear the word nasty or bully I don't think of the 'Lisa' group...:rolleyes:
I don't remember Marcus or Noirin being as nasty to Angel as Lisa's lot were.

I do remember Charlie throwing water over Angel and the rest of Lisa's lot smirking about it
I do remember Lisa turning the air blue with her curses to Angel
I do remember Kris, Lisa, Karly, Charlie all ganging up on Angel
I do remember Lisa's lot ganging up on Freddy when he made salad
I do remember Noirin and Angel being close
I do rember kris and Charlie stealing Marcus' beer
I do remember Freddy having supportive conversations with angel.



That's enough remembering :bored:
LOL..You DON'T remember Noirin bullying Angel about the dishes...
Lisa was NOT the only one smirking when Charlie poured water over her.
EVERYONE bitched about Freddie using all the eggs..most of them nominated him for that reason.
When Noirin & Angel kissed, Noirin became a bitch & accused Angel of stealing her bush..in front of Everyone.
I didn't agree with Kris & Charlie stealing the beer this however was a prank, not bullying..
I agree Angel & Freddie were close..I don't get why you had to write this..

Seriously is that all you have..:laugh:

golden 14-07-2009 01:08 AM

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Originally posted by jet
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Originally posted by golden
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Originally posted by alchemists1
A few good points made in this thread and I agree with most of it,obviosly except for the delusional golden,the dk head gang have been arrogant and nasty since day 1 and thou they could get away with it and are now trying to play the victims but nobody is fooled,and as for charlie I agree he has been sly and nasty and playing stupid doesnt wash,its like all the bullying he done to angel playing up for the entertainment of team bore he thou he could say he likes her and that would justify all the nastyness,he has been in the wrong numerous times but never admits it,and is always stirring it and playing dumb.
Why am I delusional? Because you don't agree with me? Lol:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

I think you are very sensible and fair, Golden!
Thanks Jet :bigsmile:...I have my opinions like everyone else..some people just like to get personal.

bluehill 14-07-2009 01:19 AM

one word
twits

Rodrigo2Win 14-07-2009 01:23 AM

I think Jet and Golden are trolling.

golden 14-07-2009 01:25 AM

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Originally posted by Rodrigo2Win
I think Jet and Golden are trolling.
What's trolling?

Rodrigo2Win 14-07-2009 01:31 AM

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Originally posted by golden
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Originally posted by Rodrigo2Win
I think Jet and Golden are trolling.
What's trolling?

Stating opinions on a forum that you know everyone will disagree with, so there is an argument. People troll for laughs.

golden 14-07-2009 01:41 AM

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Originally posted by Rodrigo2Win
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Originally posted by golden
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Originally posted by Rodrigo2Win
I think Jet and Golden are trolling.
What's trolling?

Stating opinions on a forum that you know everyone will disagree with, so there is an argument. People troll for laughs.
So THATS what it means....But why Rod? OK I'm not a Karly fan but I just don't get all the hate...I don't think it's fair & no-one seems to be on her side. Ok she's been a bitch but some of the others have done waay worse..she hasn't done enough bad stuff to warrant all the hate threads..I think people are doing it to punish Lisa but I won't go on..
Why is it trolling when I don't agree with others? & arguments only happen when people start getting personal.

Rodrigo2Win 14-07-2009 01:44 AM

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Originally posted by golden
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Originally posted by Rodrigo2Win
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Originally posted by golden
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Originally posted by Rodrigo2Win
I think Jet and Golden are trolling.
What's trolling?

Stating opinions on a forum that you know everyone will disagree with, so there is an argument. People troll for laughs.
So THATS what it means....But why Rod? OK I'm not a Karly fan but I just don't get all the hate...I don't think it's fair & no-one seems to be on her side. Ok she's been a bitch but some of the others have done waay worse..she hasn't done enough bad stuff to warrant all the hate threads..I think people are doing it to punish Lisa but I won't go on..
Why is it trolling when I don't agree with others? & arguments only happen when people start getting personal.

Na, I pretty much agree with you about Karly, I don't think she's nasty, she's just very thick.

But I got the impression that you think the Lisa Group are the good guys...and I thought that must be a trolling statement because of how vile they are. But if you actually think it, fair enough, sorry.

I'm not mad on either group...Charlie's ok, Noirin's ok and Rodrigo's awesome...and I hate everyone else, so I'm pretty unbiased, but if there ARE arseholes in the house, they HAVE to be Lisa, Dogface and Karly, surely?


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