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IsleOfWeather 18-07-2009 03:00 PM

Would an all white, straight, regular house be SO bad?
 
Would a BB house made up of white, British, straight, regular folk aged 18-60 be a bad house?

ie one made up of the majority of viewers?


I guess we will never know:sad:

NettoSuperstar! 18-07-2009 03:02 PM

No it would be boring and not a true reflection of the diverse society we live in! Would you prefer it if they were all white and straight?

WAYNEEBRUM 18-07-2009 03:03 PM

im surprised how many non white non english people have been in this year.

IsleOfWeather 18-07-2009 03:04 PM

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Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
No it would be boring and not a true reflection of the diverse society we live in! Would you prefer it if they were all white and straight?
You have no idea what it would be like and it would be a reflection of the majority of viewers

NettoSuperstar! 18-07-2009 03:06 PM

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Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
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Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
No it would be boring and not a true reflection of the diverse society we live in! Would you prefer it if they were all white and straight?
You have no idea what it would be like and it would be a reflection of the majority of viewers
So we should cater to the majority then? And forget about the minority?

IsleOfWeather 18-07-2009 03:07 PM

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Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
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Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
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Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
No it would be boring and not a true reflection of the diverse society we live in! Would you prefer it if they were all white and straight?
You have no idea what it would be like and it would be a reflection of the majority of viewers
So we should cater to the majority then? And forget about the minority?

in this topic i am saying yes and why not?

AhmedFan2004 18-07-2009 03:08 PM

Well not all white/etc, but you're right in that in one respect it should be reflective of general society.

So there's no reason why it shouldn't be predominantly white, range of ages, etc.

Infact, in an ideal world BB would do that; fair auditions, no bias, etc. But it doesn't really work like that. They're looking for fairly specific characters.

NettoSuperstar! 18-07-2009 03:10 PM

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Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
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Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
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Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
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Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
No it would be boring and not a true reflection of the diverse society we live in! Would you prefer it if they were all white and straight?
You have no idea what it would be like and it would be a reflection of the majority of viewers
So we should cater to the majority then? And forget about the minority?

in this topic i am saying yes and why not?
because all too easily throughout history minority groups have had a raw deal and not been recognised, their status diminished etc. Having an all white/straight/majority BB would just reinforce the negative/second class/unimportant image minority groups have had to fight against for years!

calyman 18-07-2009 03:10 PM

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Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
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Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
No it would be boring and not a true reflection of the diverse society we live in! Would you prefer it if they were all white and straight?
You have no idea what it would be like and it would be a reflection of the majority of viewers
But it would not be a reflection of ALL viewers. Have you , really thought what the percentage of all minorities add up to? In some places they ARE the majority.

BB at least have this right, we see representative housemates covering all spectrums of minorities; black, Asian, Lesbian, Gay, Disabled and mental health.

The sort of show you profess to like is now consigned to the past. We all live in a multi cultural society.

Shaun 18-07-2009 03:11 PM

Not necessarily, but ethnicity and sexuality shouldn't come into your judgment of Housemates tbh.

BringBackBB6! 18-07-2009 03:14 PM

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Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
Would a BB house made up of white, British, straight, regular folk aged 18-60 be a bad house?

ie one made up of the majority of viewers?


I guess we will never know:sad:
Comments like that make we wish i wasnt white and British

BringBackBB6! 18-07-2009 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
Would a BB house made up of white, British, straight, regular folk aged 18-60 be a bad house?

ie one made up of the majority of viewers?


I guess we will never know:sad:
Comments like that make we wish i wasnt white and British

IsleOfWeather 18-07-2009 03:17 PM

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Originally posted by BringBackBB6!
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Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
Would a BB house made up of white, British, straight, regular folk aged 18-60 be a bad house?

ie one made up of the majority of viewers?


I guess we will never know:sad:
Comments like that make we wish i wasnt white and British
well just live in your imaginary land then?:bouncy:

emilslattery 18-07-2009 03:17 PM

so black,gay,chinese people etc. arent "regular"


:elephant:

AhmedFan2004 18-07-2009 03:18 PM

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Originally posted by Shaun
Not necessarily, but ethnicity and sexuality shouldn't come into your judgment of Housemates tbh.
Sounds hunky dory in theory, but in practise they have to regulate things like ethnicity/class/sexuality, etc. Otherwise they could be more blind to it all and end up with 16 black gay housemates. This really wouldn't look good for the show, as you'd imagine.

NettoSuperstar! 18-07-2009 03:19 PM

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Originally posted by BringBackBB6!
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Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
Would a BB house made up of white, British, straight, regular folk aged 18-60 be a bad house?

ie one made up of the majority of viewers?


I guess we will never know:sad:
Comments like that make we wish i wasnt white and British

And worryingly OP is rather sad we will never have an all white/straight/"REGULAR" show. Would you like Britain to be the same? would it make you feel more comfortable not to have these irregular types around?

Rodrigo2Win 18-07-2009 03:21 PM

Wasn't BB1 a house filled with ''regular'' folk...wasn't it the most boring one?

phebes 18-07-2009 03:22 PM

what is regular anyway? the words homophobic and racist spring to mind

Rodrigo2Win 18-07-2009 03:24 PM

The OP and people like him have a common problem. They're in a love affair with all things standard, run-of-the-mill and normal, because this is exactly what they are and all their looks/education/personality will ever allow them to be.

It's like, have you noticed how the majority of homophobes are the type of guys that no gay guy would look at twice anyway? And how most racists are the type of people that would get ****ed up by, or have their girl taken by a black guy?

It's all so pitiful that it makes me quite upset for them.

spitfire 18-07-2009 03:24 PM

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Originally posted by Rodrigo2Win
Wasn't BB1 a house filled with ''regular'' folk
No.


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Originally posted by Rodrigo2Winwasn't it the most boring one?
No.

NettoSuperstar! 18-07-2009 03:25 PM

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Originally posted by Rodrigo2Win
Wasn't BB1 a house filled with ''regular'' folk...wasn't it the most boring one?
BB4 was pretty much as "regular" as it gets and that was shite!

Simone. 18-07-2009 03:26 PM

I wouldn't like it.

I prefer the diversity of having people from different cultures & races.

IsleOfWeather 18-07-2009 03:26 PM

regular as in not just desperate to be in

Nuts
Heat
Closer
China Whites


sorry to disappoint those that thought I was looking at an Aryan theme

NettoSuperstar! 18-07-2009 03:27 PM

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Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
regular as in not just desperate to be in

Nuts
Heat
Closer
China Whites


sorry to disappoint those that thought I was looking at an Aryan theme
well when you say "white/straight/regular"...a reflection of the "majority" of viewers you can see we might think you are a little prejudiced

JustKaz 18-07-2009 03:27 PM

My view is that the point of BB was to see how people of such different personalities interacted, at least going from first BB. It was facinating to watch and contestants were oblivious to any fame coming from being in BB.

We live in a much more multi cultural society, and peoples sexuality is much more accepted, and so we are seeing a wider range of contestants (as it should be) The point of BB is still the same in seeing how people mix and interact, though last few years acceptance also seems to be a factor, but it has been spoilt by many auctioning purely for attempts of fame factor.


I do not agree an all white, straight house would be right, but a BB are picking contestents now that are looking for fame more than anything.

I think BB has taken it toll now, but I wonder how it had worked if they did TV auditions sort of like Xfactor. Let the public choose HM


not sure if I make sense lol

IsleOfWeather 18-07-2009 03:27 PM

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Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
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Originally posted by Rodrigo2Win
Wasn't BB1 a house filled with ''regular'' folk...wasn't it the most boring one?
BB4 was pretty much as "regular" as it gets and that was s****!

BB4 was great and the winner was and still is a really nice guy. you are just jumping on a bandwaggon

NettoSuperstar! 18-07-2009 03:29 PM

I think most people agree that BB4 was the most boring ever!

AhmedFan2004 18-07-2009 03:30 PM

Guys you're being too harsh on the OP.

He is saying that ideally BB should represent Britian, which would mean the majority being white, British and straight.

You have to agree, in theory at least, that's the ideal; it's fair and representative of the UK population.

Your odds, in terms of being a categorized applicant (which inevitably you are to some extent) will be the same no matter what you are.

e.g.) Assuming a proportionate sample of HMs that accurately reflect Great Britian:

10 HMs selected as being associated with a certain type
2 HMs selected as being associated with a certain type

etc.

But of course, with the 10 HMs chosen, they had to battle with 5 x the no. of applicants as the 2 chosen HMs from the second type.

Because whether you like or not, there is a strong degree of 1-D selection in BB applicants. They WILL see you firstly and primarily as e.g.) a black, gay, posh person, if those are characteristics of yours.

NettoSuperstar! 18-07-2009 03:30 PM

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Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Guys you're being too harsh on the OP.

He is saying that ideally BB should represent Britian, which would mean the majority being white, British and straight.

You have to agree, in theory at least, that's the ideal; it's fair and representative of the UK population.

Your odds, in terms of being a categorized applicant (which inevitably you are to some extent) will be the same no matter what you are.

e.g.) Assuming a proportionate sample of HMs that accurately reflect Great Britian:

10 HMs selected as being associated with a certain type
2 HMs selected as being associated with a certain type

etc.

But of course, with the 10 HMs chosen, they had to battle with 5 x the no. of applicants as the 2 chosen HMs from the second type.

Because whether you like or not, there is a strong degree of 1-D selection in BB applicants. They WILL see you firstly and primarily as e.g.) a black, gay, posh person, if those are characteristics of yours.
He used the word "ALL"

Rodrigo2Win 18-07-2009 03:31 PM

Everyone's perception of ''regular'' is different. For instance, you probably look at Marcus or Maxwell and think of them as regular, but I think they were both mental, scummy members of the underclass...

Basically, what you're asking for is for BB to delegate a series with housemates all sharing loads in common with yourself. Sorry buddy, but you're too insignificant to ever see that happen.

DoM-h 18-07-2009 03:32 PM

Arent Marcus and Kris white straight men?

Marc 18-07-2009 03:32 PM

What the hell? This thread is wrong lol

IsleOfWeather 18-07-2009 03:37 PM

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Originally posted by Rodrigo2Win
Everyone's perception of ''regular'' is different. For instance, you probably look at Marcus or Maxwell and think of them as regular, but I think they were both mental, scummy members of the underclass...

Basically, what you're asking for is for BB to delegate a series with housemates all sharing loads in common with yourself. Sorry buddy, but you're too insignificant to ever see that happen.

No (and you are not following the thread) I am stating a fact that the vast majority of the BB audience (90 odd percent) are white, straight, British and have no desire to become a z-lister.

why not reflect that in the house?

McNab 18-07-2009 03:39 PM

LOL the white englishmen is the minority in England nowsdays.

Mark my words the way the government is running our country by 2020 the white englishmen will be the old one out.

I'mnot racist in any way im just pointing out fact that everyone if their eyes were open would see.

Rodrigo2Win 18-07-2009 03:40 PM

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Originally posted by IsleOfWeather



No (and you are not following the thread) I am stating a fact that the vast majority of the BB audience (90 odd percent) are white, straight, British and have no desire to become a z-lister.

why not reflect that in the house?

How on earth do you know? :laugh2:

JustKaz 18-07-2009 03:40 PM

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Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
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Originally posted by Rodrigo2Win
Everyone's perception of ''regular'' is different. For instance, you probably look at Marcus or Maxwell and think of them as regular, but I think they were both mental, scummy members of the underclass...

Basically, what you're asking for is for BB to delegate a series with housemates all sharing loads in common with yourself. Sorry buddy, but you're too insignificant to ever see that happen.

No (and you are not following the thread) I am stating a fact that the vast majority of the BB audience (90 odd percent) are white, straight, British and have no desire to become a z-lister.

why not reflect that in the house?

90% of audience? where are these figures from exactly?

IsleOfWeather 18-07-2009 03:43 PM

just reflecting the UK population

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_British

AhmedFan2004 18-07-2009 03:43 PM

On a surface level with regards to the applicants, there is always going to be some degree of regulation with regards to the types of HMs chosen.

They are always gonna need some minorities, sufficient numbers of white and/or British people, mixture of people with differing sexuality, some hot girls, etc. They will always be selecting a cast.

You're basically, to a large extent, auditioning for a certain role in the show. You might not be totally clued up on what that role is, or how closely you are going to fit that role. But that's what you're doing.

You aren't really applying as an individual, but as a categorized person. If you're a hot blonde b*tchy chick, then you will be (aware of it or not) applying for a role set by BB, which most closely resembles that.

It isn't really 'well this girl is cooler than that girl, so we'll take her, even though we've already chosen 3 other girls very similar to her.'

As Marcus said, you get on via fulfilling a 1-D role that BB were looking for. You probably aren't all that special, fascinating or unique; unless that's a component of the role you were chosen for.

The only key difference is; unlike with actors, you are pretty much that role by default and thus can just be yourself. Actors have to mould themselves into the appropriate character to play that role. But Karly will just need to be herself, Freddie as himself, etc. The character setting is automatic for BB HMs.

Rodrigo2Win 18-07-2009 03:45 PM

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Originally posted by JustKaz



90% of audience? where are these figures from exactly?

About 60% of the population are white and straight, yet he thinks 90% of the BB audience is white and straight. :laugh3:

This guy's just embarrassingly thick...it's not his fault. :laugh2:

IsleOfWeather 18-07-2009 03:48 PM

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Originally posted by Rodrigo2Win
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Originally posted by JustKaz



90% of audience? where are these figures from exactly?

About 60% of the population are white and straight, yet he thinks 90% of the BB audience is white and straight. :laugh3:

This guy's just embarrassingly thick...it's not his fault. :laugh2:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_British

In 2005 the Dept. Of Trade and Industry, trying to assess the impact of the New Civil Partnership Act, and reviewing various surveys, produced an estimate that 6% of the general population could reliably be identified as gay.


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