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BBUK4LYFE 19-07-2009 03:32 AM

Being gay....
 
is by choice or is it genetic?

Patrick 19-07-2009 03:50 AM

Bit of both but alot of people who are gay because of genetics can change it too...

But yea it is both tbh...

Princess 19-07-2009 04:02 AM

Genetic.

You don't suddenly decide 'Ok I'm going to decide to be gay' or 'I'm going to decide to be straight' or whatever.

People are always what they are,some people,using Lindsay Lohan as an example might not realise what sexual orietation they are but that's realising not deciding.

King Gizzard 19-07-2009 04:06 AM

I'm not gay but it is genetic. This is why rules against gay marriage and anti gay laws in some countries are unfair. Also I think the way in which you are brought up can make you gay-er (dont know the right word lol) say if you grew up with just sisters etc.

flemin 19-07-2009 04:07 AM

I think people are genetically predisposed to be gay allthough enviromental factors affect how people indentify themselves.

BBUK4LYFE 19-07-2009 04:11 AM

I had a friend that was straight for most of his life and some how he fell in love with someone of the same sex.

I asked him if he was always gay and he told me straight forward, No. He was never attracted to men, until he met that guy and that he still finds women attractive.

I also know other people like that and some that said, they were born gay.

All in all, I don't know. I'm leaning towards, there isn't a gay gene. Just some people are wired that way.

Princess 19-07-2009 04:15 AM

Being straight is 'the norm' in society. So a lot of people gravitate towards 'being it'. Being gay is no different to being straight. It's just that being gay isn't obvious from the off as it's not the norm.

Love is love...

MrGaryy 19-07-2009 04:29 AM

I most definitely think it is genetic, simply because it was obvious throughout my entire childhood up until when i realised I was gay.

I always wanted dolls over cars, purple over green [the new pink and blue doncha know], my friends were girls, i was very efeminate, i liked female orientated tv shows, movies, music, ect. its also why I don't blame people for bullying me by calling me gay because I was, it was obvious to them and would soon become obvious to me.

BBUK4LYFE 19-07-2009 04:41 AM

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Originally posted by MrGaryy
I most definitely think it is genetic, simply because it was obvious throughout my entire childhood up until when i realised I was gay.

I always wanted dolls over cars, purple over green [the new pink and blue doncha know], my friends were girls, i was very efeminate, i liked female orientated tv shows, movies, music, ect. its also why I don't blame people for bullying me by calling me gay because I was, it was obvious to them and would soon become obvious to me.
But maybe you chose to like girl stuff over boy stuff.

Did you grow up with strictly women? Maybe you patterned your life style after your sister or a female person that you admired.

MrGaryy 19-07-2009 04:45 AM

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Originally posted by BBUK4LYFE
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Originally posted by MrGaryy
I most definitely think it is genetic, simply because it was obvious throughout my entire childhood up until when i realised I was gay.

I always wanted dolls over cars, purple over green [the new pink and blue doncha know], my friends were girls, i was very efeminate, i liked female orientated tv shows, movies, music, ect. its also why I don't blame people for bullying me by calling me gay because I was, it was obvious to them and would soon become obvious to me.
But maybe you chose to like girl stuff over boy stuff.

Did you grow up with strictly women? Maybe you patterned your life style after your sister or a female person that you admired.
I don't know really. I mean I have two sisters no brother but they both moved about before I was 5 and altho I saw them I havent lived with them sicne so they really couldn't have effected me much, especially seeing as one of them was not happy with my effeminacy in the slightest and constantly discouraged it.

I lived with both of my parents and spent almost equal time with both tho probably a bit more with my mum but thats because I didn't get on with my dad and the fact I was probably made me drawn to her more so.

pinkmichk 19-07-2009 08:58 AM

i say genetic cos you cant choose who you fall in love with and agree with princess you dont suddenly wake one day and go today i will become gay/bi
i am bi and looking back i think i knew from around 12 or 13 but i didnt except it until much later it is a huge big adjustment to realise that whats going on in your head isnt percieved as the 'norm' (whatever the norm may be)

Ninastar 19-07-2009 10:02 AM

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Originally posted by MrGaryy
I most definitely think it is genetic, simply because it was obvious throughout my entire childhood up until when i realised I was gay.

I always wanted dolls over cars, purple over green [the new pink and blue doncha know], my friends were girls, i was very efeminate, i liked female orientated tv shows, movies, music, ect. its also why I don't blame people for bullying me by calling me gay because I was, it was obvious to them and would soon become obvious to me.
this is the same with my best friend. People are so horrible to him because he is gay and he wont fight back or anything cause what they say is true. I always feel so bad for him but when I think about it I see that its not really offencive things being said, its basically true. Even though they are trying to mean it in a bad way, it just shows how sad they really are.

Jayson 19-07-2009 10:06 AM

I wouldn't say "genetic", because I don't really think thats the right word, but yeah its something that you can't control.

Tom 19-07-2009 10:09 AM

Both. A lot of people don't understand what is meant by "choice". It isn't just a decision when you wake up and think "oh I'm going to decide to be gay".

Sod_James 25-07-2009 01:52 PM

It's not a choice at all. personally if i had the choice to be straight i would. cos its much easier and straight forward. but its also cool to be different so being gay is ok.

but i dont think you can control or chose your sexuality at all.

I have tried going straight and its just not possible lol.

Deirdre 25-07-2009 02:28 PM

I had this argument with a friend before. He was saying that you choose your sexuality (:rolleyes:) and I was trying to explain that people are just born that way and they don't "choose" cause I'm sure if they could they'd want to be straight.

He wasn't getting it. :laugh:

hannah. 25-07-2009 02:34 PM

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Originally posted by Ninastar
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Originally posted by MrGaryy
I most definitely think it is genetic, simply because it was obvious throughout my entire childhood up until when i realised I was gay.

I always wanted dolls over cars, purple over green [the new pink and blue doncha know], my friends were girls, i was very efeminate, i liked female orientated tv shows, movies, music, ect. its also why I don't blame people for bullying me by calling me gay because I was, it was obvious to them and would soon become obvious to me.
this is the same with my best friend. People are so horrible to him because he is gay and he wont fight back or anything cause what they say is true. I always feel so bad for him but when I think about it I see that its not really offencive things being said, its basically true. Even though they are trying to mean it in a bad way, it just shows how sad they really are.
this is the most sense making post i've seen you make for aages
so +k

Arneldo 25-07-2009 02:45 PM

Neither. You're either born gay, or your not. But it's not genetic. There isn't a "gay gene". There isn't a gene that controls who you fall in love with.

Ninastar 25-07-2009 02:48 PM

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Originally posted by hannah.
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Originally posted by Ninastar
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Originally posted by MrGaryy
I most definitely think it is genetic, simply because it was obvious throughout my entire childhood up until when i realised I was gay.

I always wanted dolls over cars, purple over green [the new pink and blue doncha know], my friends were girls, i was very efeminate, i liked female orientated tv shows, movies, music, ect. its also why I don't blame people for bullying me by calling me gay because I was, it was obvious to them and would soon become obvious to me.
this is the same with my best friend. People are so horrible to him because he is gay and he wont fight back or anything cause what they say is true. I always feel so bad for him but when I think about it I see that its not really offencive things being said, its basically true. Even though they are trying to mean it in a bad way, it just shows how sad they really are.
this is the most sense making post i've seen you make for aages
so +k
Aww thank you! x

MarkWaldorf 25-07-2009 02:48 PM

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Originally posted by Arneldo
Neither. You're either born gay, or your not. But it's not genetic. There isn't a "gay gene". There isn't a gene that controls who you fall in love with.
Agreed.

arista 25-07-2009 03:16 PM

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Originally posted by Princess
Genetic.

You don't suddenly decide 'Ok I'm going to decide to be gay' or 'I'm going to decide to be straight' or whatever.

People are always what they are,some people,using Lindsay Lohan as an example might not realise what sexual orietation they are but that's realising not deciding.


Very Well put.

IsleOfWeather 28-07-2009 02:16 PM

I think that an examination of ones parents and Mother relationship would be revealing.

LemonJam 28-07-2009 02:31 PM

I think it depends on upbringing, not out of choice.

Tom 28-07-2009 02:41 PM

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Originally posted by LemonJam
I think it depends on upbringing, not out of choice.
Upbringing etc is what is meant by "choice" but people misconstrue it and think that by saying choice, it means you wake up one day and decide to be gay- an ignored point I made earlier in the thread.

letmein 06-08-2009 07:39 AM

Oh, come on, for ****'s sake, this topic again? Stop making threads to simply make them. :bored:

BBUK4LYFE 06-08-2009 11:07 AM

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Originally posted by letmein
Oh, come on, for ****'s sake, this topic again? Stop making threads to simply make them. :bored:
If you don't like the thread
http://i30.tinypic.com/33e649h.gif

Its that simple really.

Rob 06-08-2009 11:14 AM

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Originally posted by BBUK4LYFE
is by choice or is it genetic?
i think its just part of you, im straight i could not choose to be gay, its not in me.

Rob! 27-08-2009 02:38 AM

People who say it's a choice really annoy me, because it's not even an opinion is it? It's a ridiculous view to take - Why would people choose to have abuse hurled at them in the street?

IsleOfWeather 27-08-2009 08:04 AM

most gay men are like women in mens bodies and most gay women like men so I guess they have just too much of the wrong sexual make-up.

just a gene malfunction

Lewis. 27-08-2009 09:21 AM

I think it is 100% just Genetic. You Can't choose your sexuality, you are just born with it. If you're gay, then there is nothing you can do about it and it takes a long time to accept who you are if you are out of the so called 'Norm' , but I know a lot of gay people who have known since they were about 12/13 years old and not come out until they were about 17/18 because they didn't know what people would think about them being gay during their school days and were often scared of the truth. People often mis-concieve how being gay is nothing major and that People who are gay can still have normal lives and do normal things

It really grates on me when people take the mick out of gay people and say that they are wrong for being gay. I mean, who decided that Men Have to be with women. Homophobic people, in my eyes, do not have the mind power to think outside of the box and are very thick people for not realiseing that everyone is different and nothing is normal, especially in this day and age when people are allowed to be who they want to be. All of this, coming from a sraight person makes me feel quite proud as to who I am and that I have the common sense to not think of the normal all of the time and look at other aspects of life.. even if it has nothing to do with me because I am not gay

IsleOfWeather 27-08-2009 10:34 AM

God decided that men be with women.

arista 27-08-2009 10:51 AM

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Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
God decided that men be with women.
Utter Rubbish.



There is No God.

Lewis. 27-08-2009 10:55 AM

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Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
God decided that men be with women.
What makes you say that? Just because a man and woman have to have sex to concieve a child does not mean that people of the same sex cannot fall in love with eachover. Love does not always have to be about having children and a family life, it can also mean spending the rest of your life with the one you love and if that person is of the same sex, then so be it

Hugo 27-08-2009 10:59 AM

Sexuality is fluid. There aren't three catagories; straight, gay, bi. Some people may like women more than others and some people may like men slightly more than women. It's no different to anything else in life like food taste or w/e.

Hugo 27-08-2009 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by BBUK4LYFE
Quote:

Originally posted by letmein
Oh, come on, for ****'s sake, this topic again? Stop making threads to simply make them. :bored:
If you don't like the thread
http://i30.tinypic.com/33e649h.gif

Its that simple really.
LMFAO.

letmein 27-08-2009 08:42 PM

Unless you're gay, you have no idea. Next.

IsleOfWeather 28-08-2009 08:10 AM

it is only 4% of the population

Shaun 30-08-2009 05:41 PM

I'd say it's a mixture of upbringing and genetics.

Tom 30-08-2009 06:15 PM

[rquote=2493854&tid=127003&author=letmein]Unless you're gay, you have no idea. Next.[/rquote]

You can apply that to anything though e.g. religion. Sometimes you need to take a step back


MarkWaldorf 03-09-2009 01:24 AM

It could be to do with both genes or upbringing, like Shaun said. It probably depends on the person. For example, I have a friend who grew up without a father and was constantly surrounded by his mother, sisters and aunts and there are obvious feminine traits in him, but he's straight (well, he has a girlfriend and hasn't mentioned being gay). I grew up with a father and wasn't forced into a situation where I was surrounded by femininity, I chose to have female friends and like female oriented things (like Gary). As far as I know, I've always noticed boys just as much as I noticed girls when I was younger, which sounds kind of weird, so I definitely think in my case and many others, it's to do with genes.

No one in my family is gay though, so I don't get how it is done through genes. :(


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