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kellybsblover 25-08-2009 08:49 PM

I find it interesting people in here find rebellion entertaining
 
I enjoyed Rex last season. He was smart enough to be entertaining without breaking BB rules. Explain to me how breaking rules is entertaining?

pixee 25-08-2009 08:52 PM

First of all i think if you believe following rules without questioning or disagreeing is some how a good thing is a very dangerous train of thought.

In a gameshow situation based not on answering questions but providing interesting television, lets be honest arguments etc someone going against a group and doing something like this is entertaining.

He's been honest about it, fairly accurate with his assumption he is up for eviciton and neither of the people voted for by him refusing are effected, problem is what?

kellybsblover 25-08-2009 08:55 PM

You know the rules before going in. This should be no surprise. If I dont agree with the rules I would not go in the house.

pixee 25-08-2009 08:58 PM

Best BB moment was someone breaking the rules in the first series "nasty nick" it's an entertainment show if BB were bothered they could have kicked him out. Do people get so angry because they wouldn't dare break the rules?

kellybsblover 25-08-2009 09:01 PM

I would never break the rules... in any circumstance.

kellybsblover 25-08-2009 09:01 PM

I would never break the rules... in any circumstance.

pixee 25-08-2009 09:19 PM

Frightening

GirlsAloud 25-08-2009 09:21 PM

If it's possible to break the rules to get what they want (big brother gave them an alternative) then they will.. I would. xxxxx

kellybsblover 25-08-2009 09:23 PM

I guess it's a matter of principles and morals... I'm not expecting everyone to have it and no Rodrigo would not break rules to get what he wants.

guigy 25-08-2009 09:26 PM

Breaks the monotomy of watching robots

pixee 25-08-2009 09:31 PM

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Originally posted by kellybsblover
I guess it's a matter of principles and morals... I'm not expecting everyone to have it and no Rodrigo would not break rules to get what he wants.
I think your falling into the David trap of confusing like i don't know say general social anarchy with a late night channel 4 entertainment show. It is pure entertainment, as the other poster said there is an alternative, BB allows them to bend or break rules which don't endanger otherhousemates or offend people as a means of creating "television".

I hope you apply a more critical eye in your real life, freedom of thought and action is what stops nazism if we are going to use David's level of real life comparrison lol "IF THEY SAY JUMP I SAY HOW HIGH" not very ya fat bastard

BitterFruit 25-08-2009 09:38 PM

the arguement on both sides is in some respect mute since it is only a gameshow whose rules can be arbitrary at best..

its more interesting to see why people do things

David, I think, genuinely has code of "honour" about the rules: I kinda like him for it

Marcus I liked when he rule broke just to kick things up a bit
but
I liked him less when he briefly thought (along with Siavash and Freddie) that he was being a rebel...it had as much meaning and depth as rebelling at "Blind Mans Bluff" ..its a game

Charlie wants people to keep to the rules because he deeply fears losing through more unpredictability being introduced...i don't think he has any morals on rule-breaking really......he nicks drinks anyway :shocked:

GirlsAloud 25-08-2009 09:41 PM

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Originally posted by pixee
Quote:

Originally posted by kellybsblover
I guess it's a matter of principles and morals... I'm not expecting everyone to have it and no Rodrigo would not break rules to get what he wants.
"IF THEY SAY JUMP I SAY HOW HIGH" not very ya fat b******
LMFAOOOO!

Prole 25-08-2009 09:41 PM

Rules are made for the obeyance of fools and the guidance of wise men.

alchemists1 25-08-2009 10:31 PM

None of the supposed non rule breakers were'nt so worried about those same rules when today they escaped from the house and were behind the scenes?
It's all BS Charlie is a thief wheres that in his morals and as for Rodrigo he has gotta be the biggest hypocrit in there,he goes on about rules and respect but will throw oil and water over beds and will drink lager that he has took a part in stealing,same goes for his many tantrums in the diary room kicking things and so on.
Fair enough I agree Siavash should have nominated but not on tonights show when it meant nothing but 3 weeks ago,but BB messed that 1 up.

WOMBAI 25-08-2009 10:37 PM

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Originally posted by pixee
First of all i think if you believe following rules without questioning or disagreeing is some how a good thing is a very dangerous train of thought.

In a gameshow situation based not on answering questions but providing interesting television, lets be honest arguments etc someone going against a group and doing something like this is entertaining.

He's been honest about it, fairly accurate with his assumption he is up for eviciton and neither of the people voted for by him refusing are effected, problem is what?
Rule-breaking and rebellion is a stage we all go through as teenagers - most of us outgrow it! Unfortunately - a few sad individuals remain stuck in that frame of mind because they don't have the emotional intelligence to realize that it is not cool - just pathetic!

pixee 25-08-2009 10:50 PM

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Originally posted by VOICEOFREASON
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Originally posted by pixee
First of all i think if you believe following rules without questioning or disagreeing is some how a good thing is a very dangerous train of thought.

In a gameshow situation based not on answering questions but providing interesting television, lets be honest arguments etc someone going against a group and doing something like this is entertaining.

He's been honest about it, fairly accurate with his assumption he is up for eviciton and neither of the people voted for by him refusing are effected, problem is what?
Rule-breaking and rebellion is a stage we all go through as teenagers - most of us outgrow it! Unfortunately - a few sad individuals remain stuck in that frame of mind because they don't have the emotional intelligence to realize that it is not cool - just pathetic!
Sorry you misunderstand me I don't think stomping around kicking doors like Rodrigo is "cool" or aggressively shouting at people like a "teenager" is cool like Charlie.

I think making a decision not to follow the rule of an entertainment programme as a personal choice is ok in my book.

And if you meant your statement as a comment on general life then again i would say Children follow what adults tell them growing up and learning allows you to question, critisize and formulate an opinion there is nothing mature about blindly following orders, especially of a false power, in this case a television channel.

It's an entertainment show and what he's done has created some entertainment what else would we be talking about? "oh Lisa smoked again did you see that?"

Vicky. 25-08-2009 10:52 PM

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Originally posted by kellybsblover
I would never break the rules... in any circumstance.
In that case do you disagree with rodrigo sophie charlie siavash AND marcus for breaking out of the BB house earlier today?

For someone with such strong views about rulebreaking...rodrigo is a hypocrite :laugh:

pixee 25-08-2009 10:54 PM

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Originally posted by VickyJ
Quote:

Originally posted by kellybsblover
I would never break the rules... in any circumstance.
In that case do you disagree with rodrigo sophie charlie siavash AND marcus for breaking out of the BB house earlier today?

For someone with such strong views about rulebreaking...rodrigo is a hypocrite :laugh:

I'm sure it was funny whe they did it.. lol

Rodrigo is the biggest hypocrite in the house no question.

Be interesting to see it tommorow

Rob! 25-08-2009 11:00 PM

I've never been able to understand Siavash's logic of not nominating - I'm kind of with Roddy on this one (and not just cause he's my fav :tongue:). One of the fundamental aspects of Big Brother is the nomination process and if your not prepared to do this as Siavash hasn't for quite a few weeks now, then why bother coming on the show?
In BB7 when there was about this many of them left, not one of them refused to nominate (I don't think) despite the fact that they were all close.
As well as that, rule breaking in Big Brother almost certainly guarantees you air time, so that has to be taken into consideration as well surely...?

pixee 25-08-2009 11:03 PM

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Originally posted by RobInnes
I've never been able to understand Siavash's logic of not nominating - I'm kind of with Roddy on this one (and not just cause he's my fav :tongue:). One of the fundamental aspects of Big Brother is the nomination process and if your not prepared to do this as Siavash hasn't for quite a few weeks now, then why bother coming on the show?
In BB7 when there was about this many of them left, not one of them refused to nominate (I don't think) despite the fact that they were all close.
As well as that, rule breaking in Big Brother almost certainly guarantees you air time, so that has to be taken into consideration as well surely...?
*sighs* His logic is that he wants to face public vote before the final week so if he gets to the final week he hasn't had an easy ride, we all know it is the "rules" but it is purely about choice he has chose to do this the same as the others HAVE chose to nominate, if they all refused to nominate they would in all likely hood all go up for nomination which is quite fair

Jords 25-08-2009 11:05 PM

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Originally posted by GirlsAloud
If it's possible to break the rules to get what they want (big brother gave them an alternative) then they will.. I would. xxxxx
I would too :joker:

WOMBAI 25-08-2009 11:10 PM

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Originally posted by pixee
Quote:

Originally posted by VOICEOFREASON
Quote:

Originally posted by pixee
First of all i think if you believe following rules without questioning or disagreeing is some how a good thing is a very dangerous train of thought.

In a gameshow situation based not on answering questions but providing interesting television, lets be honest arguments etc someone going against a group and doing something like this is entertaining.

He's been honest about it, fairly accurate with his assumption he is up for eviciton and neither of the people voted for by him refusing are effected, problem is what?
Rule-breaking and rebellion is a stage we all go through as teenagers - most of us outgrow it! Unfortunately - a few sad individuals remain stuck in that frame of mind because they don't have the emotional intelligence to realize that it is not cool - just pathetic!
Sorry you misunderstand me I don't think stomping around kicking doors like Rodrigo is "cool" or aggressively shouting at people like a "teenager" is cool like Charlie.

I think making a decision not to follow the rule of an entertainment programme as a personal choice is ok in my book.

And if you meant your statement as a comment on general life then again i would say Children follow what adults tell them growing up and learning allows you to question, critisize and formulate an opinion there is nothing mature about blindly following orders, especially of a false power, in this case a television channel.

It's an entertainment show and what he's done has created some entertainment what else would we be talking about? "oh Lisa smoked again did you see that?"
Rodrigo only acts that way when he is genuinely upset - and he usually has good reason!

Marcus is a middle-aged man trying to be funny by acting like a 10 year-old and 'breaking the rules' - kids that age think it is cool and brave to break rules. Marcus is doing one of two things! He is either genuinely stuck in the mind-frame of a 10 year- old and actually thinks that type of behaviour is funny - or he doesn't have a very high opinion of the type of people that watch bb and think that they would find that entertaining - so behaves that way to make himself popular!

Either way - he is a loser!

trasadkel 25-08-2009 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RobInnes
I've never been able to understand Siavash's logic of not nominating - I'm kind of with Roddy on this one (and not just cause he's my fav :tongue:). One of the fundamental aspects of Big Brother is the nomination process and if your not prepared to do this as Siavash hasn't for quite a few weeks now, then why bother coming on the show?
In BB7 when there was about this many of them left, not one of them refused to nominate (I don't think) despite the fact that they were all close.
As well as that, rule breaking in Big Brother almost certainly guarantees you air time, so that has to be taken into consideration as well surely...?
I agree. I think Marcus and Siavash actions in this BB have ruined it. All I can say is after this fiasco and what BB have let people get away with this year does not bode well for BB11. Everyone will come in with the idea that they can just rebel and get away with it. It will descend into chaos.

I think the BB producers should have put their foot down with the rule breakers a long time ago. The whole concept of BB has now totally gone.

pixee 25-08-2009 11:13 PM

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Originally posted by VOICEOFREASON
Quote:

Originally posted by pixee
Quote:

Originally posted by VOICEOFREASON
Quote:

Originally posted by pixee
First of all i think if you believe following rules without questioning or disagreeing is some how a good thing is a very dangerous train of thought.

In a gameshow situation based not on answering questions but providing interesting television, lets be honest arguments etc someone going against a group and doing something like this is entertaining.

He's been honest about it, fairly accurate with his assumption he is up for eviciton and neither of the people voted for by him refusing are effected, problem is what?
Rule-breaking and rebellion is a stage we all go through as teenagers - most of us outgrow it! Unfortunately - a few sad individuals remain stuck in that frame of mind because they don't have the emotional intelligence to realize that it is not cool - just pathetic!
Sorry you misunderstand me I don't think stomping around kicking doors like Rodrigo is "cool" or aggressively shouting at people like a "teenager" is cool like Charlie.

I think making a decision not to follow the rule of an entertainment programme as a personal choice is ok in my book.

And if you meant your statement as a comment on general life then again i would say Children follow what adults tell them growing up and learning allows you to question, critisize and formulate an opinion there is nothing mature about blindly following orders, especially of a false power, in this case a television channel.

It's an entertainment show and what he's done has created some entertainment what else would we be talking about? "oh Lisa smoked again did you see that?"
Rodrigo only acts that way when he is genuinely upset - and he usually has good reason!

Marcus is a middle-aged man trying to be funny by acting like a 10 year-old and 'breaking the rules' - kids that age think it is cool and brave to break rules. Marcus is doing one of two things! He is either genuinely stuck in the mind-frame of a 10 year- old and actually thinks that type of behaviour is funny - or he doesn't have a very high opinion of the type of people that watch bb and think that they would find that entertaining - so behaves that way to make himself popular!

Either way - he is a loser!
Yes Marcus is childish, as childish as Rodrigo if that is your point. Siavash is not behaving childishly though and neither is questioning rules as you tried to make out somehow childish and as far as the show goes it's good entertainment.

Apparently your mate, Rodrigo, has no such issue breaking rules which we will see tommorow, when it suits him


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