Charlie v Siavash row
 

i really disliked charlie and maybe he still aint my fav, but some of the things he said tonight i kinda agree bou siavash, i dont kno whats happinin to siavash:-(, i think marcus will stay on friday now x

I think they all ganged up on him tonight, he was talking in a calm voice and they were all shouting at him. Rodrigo fed him to the wolves.

totally !!!!!!!!! rodrigo is such a blabber mouth!!!!!!! :mad::shocked:

Charlie was clever, he brought up the cheating on gf on national tv issue and backstabbing Marcus, to remind the public of it. Very clever.

I actually think Siavash came out of it looking ok tonight, he handled himself well and managed to get his point across even when the hyenas were shouting at him.

They also showed Marcus saying the comment about 'Siavash being out on his arse if he's up against me' which may not do him any favours.

It depends what the HL shows are like for the rest of the week I think.

I think they both looked like tools to be honest.... Siavash for continuing his crusade to look like the moral clean cute hero of the piece while Charlie decides to have a pop at someone he considers a threat to his chances of winning the thing.

Charlie brought up the entire Cheating on GF + Backstabbing Marcus thing for a reason ... to remind the public and make Vash look bad.

And you know full well that many many people will believe, and rightly so (see my thread) that Siavash is scheming and trying to play the 'hero' card.

I do agree that Marcus made that bad comment though. But overall, you must admit that this HL was far worse than Vash than Marcus.

Charlie's antics don't matter, he's not up. Siavash's does.

In my honest opinion I think it WOULD'VE been bad for Siavash, if Charlie, Rodrigo and David hadn't ganged up on him. He held himself well, faced the mob and in my eyes came out on top. They jumped from point to point, and if that point didn't work cursed at him, called him names, suddenly bring up things nothing to do with the argument after being criticised themselves and telling him "Never speak to me again". He looked the adult in the entire situation and i applaud him for not being intimidated:thumbs:

I give the public more credit than to think that they have forgotten about Siavash's GF.

That was a really low blow by Charlie, but the way Siavash reacted and held his hands up (he has never tried to weasel out of the fact that he ****ed up anyway) actually made him look the more mature and controlled.

I see what you're saying in that Charlie isn't up this week so it doesn't matter, but for me it's all about the way Siavash handled the situation, and you can't deny he came out of the HL show looking alright considering what he had to endure from everyone apart from Lisa and Sophie.

I think Siavash came out of it better than Charlie. Siavash stayed calm while Charlie was mouthing away. Charlie didn't like being cornered over his fakeness so he brought Siavash's gf into the row in a desperate attempt to make Siavash look bad.

So clever he came out of the whole thing looking worse than siavash because he brought up a totally irrelevant topic as ammunition for an arguement?

Or because once again he used his materful tactic of going on and on and on and refusing to let the other speak...only this time he had backup from two others, who also used tiny pieces of silence to scream and shout and still not let Siavash get a word in edgeways?

Very clever indeed :rolleyes:

Agreed.

Had they not all ganged up on him, he would have no doubt come out of this with egg on his face. As it happened, he looked the best out of the lot of them for being calm, collected and just taking everything they threw at him, whilst reminding them that they are just shouting...and the top top it off, he reveals charlie and rods real reason for being upset...because they are upset he MAY look better than them and they are desperate to win. Bravo :hugesmile:

Siavash came out the winner IMHO.
Everyone except Sophie imploded upon themselves and showed how scared they were..Marcus included.

charlie barricading the bathroom door while siavash having a bath. searching for wood and rope to keep door shut. he is one evil b

plus sophie helped.

and people actually vote for this pathetic little man

marcus doing his usuall and watching but sitting on the fence. splinter bum

But you know that the general public and chavs side with him, and that this forum is so biased against Charlie that they'd say he 'looked bad' even if he breathed. So it's pointless even stating so, because forum bias and delusion is a given.

He did the same last time to Freddie, and the forum said the same thing. But it doesn't matter, because Freddie's gone and Charlie is in the final.

And as I've said, the chavs and general public love him. They will be thinking about the 'Cheating on GF' and 'Backstabbing Best Mate'.

You cannot deny that these two issues will hamper Siavash. Unless you're that biased.

And btw, Marcus is up for eviction, so it's irrelevant how Charlie/Rod/anyone else looks.

I dont think the backstabbing best friend thing stands as such, as marcus has backstabbed marcus just as much.

And the cheating on his girlfriend thing seems to have been brushed under the carpet, especially since it wasnt a long term thing and she has went on to make money off the relationship.

I dont care who is up for eviction, I was only caying charlie looked way worse, ranting like a mindless buffoon about stuff that had nothing to do with the matter at hand.

Much like you are with bringing the chav vote etc up at every given oppertunity.

:wink:

And you know fine well I have never liked him, and my reasons for it, so dont even bother trying to include me in 'forum delusion/bias' thank you.

But it's not under the carpet, it was fully reminded and explained by Charlie tonight. And Marcus has done jack to Siavash, and even if he did, nobody knows/remembers/cares about that just before this eviction.

I bring up the Chav vote to actually show that there are other bias's outside the forum. And that the whole world doesn't have an anti-charlie bandwagon.

I am sure there are anti-Marcus and anti-Vash bandwagons out there. It's a given. :whistle:

1) Charlie didn't remind anyone, if anything last week's magazines brought that back to everyone

2) He most certainly didn't explain anything about it, he went for the jugular after Siavash commented on the Bea thing as Charlie had no argument for the point

3) Please stop associating everyone as being in a bandwagon as if we can't think for ourselves. Just like you are entitled to your opinions on every housemate, as are we entitled to our opinions on one of your obvious favourites.

Siavash may have come out of it looking better than Charlie but I don't think It has done him any favours for this weeks eviction. I strongly believe Siavash will go this week unless something is pulled out of the bag pretty quickly.

vote the minger out - see 'evict minger' post

Boring:sleep:

How is he "continuing his crusade"? He has his personal morals, and sticks to them. The other housemates are getting jealous that he is going to somehow look better than him in some way and try to bring him down. Its sad that even Marcus sold him out. Thought he at least had SOME sense of right left in his tree frog brain of his. Oh well, once a tree frog, always a tree frog, Marcus.

evict marcus - 09016 16 16 09
siavashhhh 2 win! come on,, people,, it dont cost much,, just pickkk up your phones and VOTEE! x

I think they gave Vash a good oppertunity and it didn't hurt him at all. If not for them then he wouldn't've had such a clear chance to voice his reasons for his choices (or lack of them). He expressed himself calmly and gave what some people could see as valid reasons for not nominating. Whereas, the rest, well they just looked quite pathetic and nasty.

Charlie was a bitch