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AhmedFan2004 26-08-2009 10:34 PM

Sneaky Siavash\'s Dual Gameplan to Grab the £100k - Martyr + Victim ...
 
This gameplan is cunning, many people will not see this. A shame, as he is cleverly fooling the public AND HMs. He had a dual gameplan; Martyr + Victim. This, approaching final week, to push for £100k. Bare in mind, eviction this week or finishing 4th/5th next week, is trivial; it's about going for £100k.

Part 1 - Martyr

The idea here, is that he makes himself look like a martyr and a brave hero for putting himself up for the public vote. This is congruent to his 'No Free Rides', 'Anti-Scheming', 'Put Myself Up' ethos that he's been vocalising.

Based on his calculations that himself and David were on 3 noms each (turned out Rod fooled him though):

=> He could easily nom David, hence David vs Marcus eviction, saving himself. BUT; this contradicts the described ethos above. It makes himself look schemy and cowardly.

=> He can nom David and put himself up in a LIKELY 3-way eviction. Perfect; he looks awesome for taking the plunge, but also knows that David will get evicted. So he looks great but stays in the house - Part 1 Complete - Martyr

Part 2 - Victim

This was the cleverest part of it all IMO. Many FMs, including Siavash fans, realised what he was doing in Part 1. Trying to boost his popularity/appeal whilst using David as a safety net. But in this part, he really plays it well.

At the table, in casual conversation, he decides to tell Rodrigo out of the blue - Without prompt or questioning - That he decided not to nominate. But why do this ehhh?Everyone knows Rod's temper and how he hates not nominating, rule tampering. Rod PREDICTABLY reacted, and told everyone ...

Part 2 Completed - Everyone gets angry at him, and he keeps his calm and trys to defend himself, saying 'But I only put myself up; it doesn't affect you, I'm doing David a favour too, it's now 3 of us. What's the problem?'.

So now he looks like a martyr, getting victimised by Rod and Co. So Part 2 Complete - Victim

END RESULT:

He risks himself being up for eviction, 3 way, or even 2 way (as it so happened!) but done this to bolster his popularity and look awesome - A great plan to push for the £100k.

Why risk this? As I said at the start, getting evicted now or finishing 4th/5th next week; similar. It's now time to gun £100k; Vash style.

Gameplan Cracked. :thumbs:

King Gizzard 26-08-2009 10:35 PM

Spare time much

setanta 26-08-2009 10:35 PM

Old news baby but sure they wont see it this way when everything points to it.

Dolphin-and-Whale 26-08-2009 10:36 PM

I think your over analysing the situation

google 26-08-2009 10:37 PM

:sleep::sleep::sleep::sleep:


and what Lisa deserves to win :bored::bored: :sleep::sleep:

Jordan. 26-08-2009 10:37 PM

What 100k :shrug:

AhmedFan2004 26-08-2009 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by setanta
Old news baby but sure they wont see it this way when everything points to it.
Part 2 is not old news - He purposefully told volatile Rodrigo at the table about not nominating, to cause a reaction and ensure they got angry at him.

To play the victim.

Martyr + Victim = £100k in his sights. :spin2:

AhmedFan2004 26-08-2009 10:39 PM

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Originally posted by LethalDealer
I think your over analysing the situation
I've laid out everything in this post. The logic follows and it's pretty obvious now.

Why tell Rodrigo out of the blue, at the table, that he didn't nominate? :thumbs:

Why put himself up for eviction, in a 3-way, via his own choice? :thumbs:

Martyr + Victim = Push for the £100k

AhmedFan2004 26-08-2009 10:39 PM

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Originally posted by SPIDERPIG!
What 100k :shrug:
The £100k that was taken off them the day after this all happened.

setanta 26-08-2009 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Quote:

Originally posted by setanta
Old news baby but sure they wont see it this way when everything points to it.
Part 2 is not old news - He purposefully told volatile Rodrigo at the table about not nominating, to cause a reaction and ensure they got angry at him.

To play the victim.

Martyr + Victim = £100k in his sights. :spin2:
Yes it is.... was discussed last night by us. Oh, and you're forgetting a cracker he came out with today. Apparently he said that he missed Freddie and it's not the same without him... no love in the house. Such an obvious ploy to gain more sympathy for his own plight. When has he mentioned Freddie last?

BONNEIP 26-08-2009 10:41 PM

OP , it's not a popular view as See the cash can do no wrong, but i agree with ya anyway.... even if you state Lisa as you fav. She sure needs the cash, her fags must take up most of her dole money...but she has been consistant. Dull, tamed in the first weeks, & boring ( sorry).

Lowkey 26-08-2009 10:43 PM

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Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Quote:

Originally posted by LethalDealer
I think your over analysing the situation
I've laid out everything in this post. The logic follows and it's pretty obvious now.

Why tell Rodrigo out of the blue, at the table, that he didn't nominate? :thumbs:

Why put himself up for eviction, in a 3-way, via his own choice? :thumbs:

Martyr + Victim = Push for the £100k
Maybe he told rodders, because him,sophie and rodders were sitting at the table, and sophie knew, and he felt bad from keeping it a secret from rodders, imagine how pissed off he would have been if he found out 4 days later.

HalfwitFTW 26-08-2009 10:43 PM

:sleep::sleep::sleep:

You really expect us to read that

AhmedFan2004 26-08-2009 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BONNEIP
OP , it's not a popular view as See the cash can do no wrong, but i agree with ya anyway.... even if you state Lisa as you fav. She sure needs the cash, her fags must take up most of her dole money...but she has been consistant. Dull, tamed in the first weeks, & boring ( sorry).
Lisa's gameplan is bloc voting to get to the final and then being sweet to win it.

Siavash's gameplan is martyr + victim to push his way to £100k. Heroic, is what he's trying to portray.

I'm just laying this out for the forum members to see. :spin2:

AhmedFan2004 26-08-2009 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by setanta

Yes it is.... was discussed last night by us. Oh, and you're forgetting a cracker he came out with today. Apparently he said that he missed Freddie and it's not the same without him... no love in the house. Such an obvious ploy to gain more sympathy for his own plight. When has he mentioned Freddie last?
Fair enough, I must have missed discussion about him purposefully telling it to Rodrigo to cause him and the others to kick off.

Clever ploy at playing the victim though. :rolleyes:

MJBFAN 26-08-2009 10:48 PM

Read it Ahmed fan, just as I read it on DS.
Don't agree with you.
Siavash maybe many things but he is not being manipulative for the sake of it.

He is trying to beat the block voters in his own way and why shouldn't he?

Yes there has been block voting and he is fighting back. who wouldn't?

setanta 26-08-2009 10:49 PM

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Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Quote:

Originally posted by setanta

Yes it is.... was discussed last night by us. Oh, and you're forgetting a cracker he came out with today. Apparently he said that he missed Freddie and it's not the same without him... no love in the house. Such an obvious ploy to gain more sympathy for his own plight. When has he mentioned Freddie last?
Fair enough, I must have missed discussion about him purposefully telling it to Rodrigo to cause him and the others to kick off.

Clever ploy at playing the victim though. :rolleyes:
Yeah, I was arguing last night about it, saying that he obviously orchestrated the whole thing. Why else tell Rodrigo, the most anal of people when it concerns rules? And now he said that he misses Freddie and that they should give the money to charity. I need a sickbag.

google 26-08-2009 10:50 PM

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Originally posted by HalfwitFTW
:sleep::sleep::sleep:

You really expect us to read that


:laugh: :laugh:

AhmedFan2004 26-08-2009 10:50 PM

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Originally posted by MJBFAN
Siavash maybe many things but he is not being manipulative for the sake of it.
Ok ...

Quote:

He is trying to beat the block voters in his own way and why shouldn't he?
And yes, this is how he is doing it ...

Quote:

Yes there has been block voting and he is fighting back. who wouldn't?
Yes and this is his plan to overcome it.

google 26-08-2009 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MJBFAN
Read it Ahmed fan, just as I read it on DS.
Don't agree with you.
Siavash maybe many things but he is not being manipulative for the sake of it.

He is trying to beat the block voters in his own way and why shouldn't he?

Yes there has been block voting and he is fighting back. who wouldn't?

:thumbs:

AhmedFan2004 26-08-2009 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by setanta
Yeah, I was arguing last night about it, saying that he obviously orchestrated the whole thing. Why else tell Rodrigo, the most anal of people when it concerns rules? And now he said that he misses Freddie and that they should give the money to charity. I need a sickbag.
Yup. He knew Rod would kick off, tell the others, then a big row. ith Vash defending himself. A definite ploy for the martyr to play the victim.

AhmedFan2004 26-08-2009 10:53 PM

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Originally posted by google
:thumbs:
MJBFan contradicted himself. He said Siavash wouldn't manipulate (even tho my post explains how he does it) ...

Then he says why shouldn't he fight against the bloc voters?

My initial post explains how he is fighting back. Via this gameplan, to win.

:rolleyes:

santaa 26-08-2009 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Quote:

Originally posted by SPIDERPIG!
What 100k :shrug:
The £100k that was taken off them the day after this all happened.
Ofcourse there will be a prize fund!

Mindyfint 26-08-2009 10:57 PM

This is how you spend your time? Woah thats sad
Your 'theories' wont make any difference to siavash's support.
:pat:

setanta 26-08-2009 11:01 PM

But the theory is very sound and in keeping with all that's transpired over the course of the last few weeks - his behaviour has been very consistent with regard to this martyr and victim act. I think it holds up. Haven't heard anyone repudiate it with facts of their own anyway. Just the usual well you love smelly Marcus or Siavash is lovely...yawnnnn


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