People being too harsh on Lisa..
 

Come on, i detest her and David, but get over it.

If she is nasty does not mean that Davina and everyone being nasty to her is gonna be good tv watching..

She got her just in being kicked out.

And yes the highlights show did show her nasty bits, but i see her as a wounded animal, so insecure and vulnerable,, you can see if everyone had pushed the buttons, she would have broken down..

Let the woman go back to obscurity..

My suggestion focus your threads on David her lapdog, see how he now kisses everyones else a** as his mentor and protector is now gone..

Well said - she's out forget her. This lust for blood is not good karma. Game show folks

i really dont see what lisa has done all she did was join in with tasks apart from that she sat at the bus stop she never picked on anyone she stood up for herself a couple of times but she gave good advice and was like a mother to some of them i dont know what big bro people had been watching but there is 100% noway anyone could call her a bully and no reason for the extreme boo's she got i think it is the horrible audeience ruining BB brandishing serious words like bullying around when they feel a little hurt because someone told them what to do or figured out there nasty personality

I feel sarry for her.
It's clear that she's been hardened by a difficult life.
She's a lesbian and obviously came from a difficult background.
That couldn't been an easy thing to deal with, especially as her coming out would've been at a time when it would be harder to then now.
I wish people could understand that Lisa is a victim of circumstance.
She is a person.
Says it as she see's it because she doesn't have anything to prove to anyone.

She obviously isn't going to be as seemingly happy-go-lucky as Charlie, or as mellow as Siavash would leed us to believe he is, because she has seen the worst in her own life.

[rquote=2517325&tid=145446&author=wushyboo]i really dont see what lisa has done all she did was join in with tasks apart from that she sat at the bus stop she never picked on anyone she stood up for herself a couple of times but she gave good advice and was like a mother to some of them i dont know what big bro people had been watching but there is 100% noway anyone could call her a bully and no reason for the extreme boo's she got i think it is the horrible audeience ruining BB brandishing serious words like bullying around when they feel a little hurt because someone told them what to do or figured out there nasty personality[/rquote]

Shes gone now,, there were some good sides to her, but i think she was extremely negative but hey forget it, shes gone, draw your claws out for David..

[rquote=2517332&tid=145446&author=MiuMiu]I feel sarry for her.
It's clear that she's been hardened by a difficult life.
She's a lesbian and obviously came from a difficult background.
That couldn't been an easy thing to deal with, especially as her coming out would've been at a time when it would be harder to then now.
I wish people could understand that Lisa is a victim of circumstance.
She is a person.
Says it as she see's it because she doesn't have anything to prove to anyone.

She obviously isn't going to be as seemingly happy-go-lucky as Charlie, or as mellow as Siavash would leed us to believe he is, because she has seen the worst in her own life.
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Poor genes thats it..

[rquote=2517333&tid=145446&author=masonbason][rquote=2517325&tid=145446&author=wushyboo]i really dont see what lisa has done all she did was join in with tasks apart from that she sat at the bus stop she never picked on anyone she stood up for herself a couple of times but she gave good advice and was like a mother to some of them i dont know what big bro people had been watching but there is 100% noway anyone could call her a bully and no reason for the extreme boo's she got i think it is the horrible audeience ruining BB brandishing serious words like bullying around when they feel a little hurt because someone told them what to do or figured out there nasty personality[/rquote]

Shes gone now,, there were some good sides to her, but i think she was extremely negative but hey forget it, shes gone, draw your claws out for David..[/rquote]

For David?? What has he done, he's a big idiot but he's harmless really!

For David?? What has he done, he's a big idiot but he's harmless really![/rquote]

Precisely because he is a big idiot for hanging around with Lisa, telling her what everyone was saying, telling i dont care, just see him now turn and kiss up to everyone else for the next three days...

[rquote=2517334&tid=145446&author=masonbason][rquote=2517332&tid=145446&author=MiuMiu]I feel sarry for her.
It's clear that she's been hardened by a difficult life.
She's a lesbian and obviously came from a difficult background.
That couldn't been an easy thing to deal with, especially as her coming out would've been at a time when it would be harder to then now.
I wish people could understand that Lisa is a victim of circumstance.
She is a person.
Says it as she see's it because she doesn't have anything to prove to anyone.

She obviously isn't going to be as seemingly happy-go-lucky as Charlie, or as mellow as Siavash would leed us to believe he is, because she has seen the worst in her own life.
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Poor genes thats it..[/rquote]

Are you reffering to her sexulity?
If so, are you creating a similarity to being gay and having a genetic disorer?

[rquote=2517341&tid=145446&author=masonbason]
For David?? What has he done, he's a big idiot but he's harmless really![/rquote]

Precisely because he is a big idiot for hanging around with Lisa, telling her what everyone was saying, telling i dont care, just see him now turn and kiss up to everyone else for the next three days...[/rquote]

Yeah, doesn't warrant claws being drawn though does it?

[rquote=2517335&tid=145446&author=Niamhxo

For David?? What has he done, he's a big idiot but he's harmless really![/rquote]



Exactly.
David is a nice person.
:spin:

I quite liked Lisa :spin2:

[rquote=2517344&tid=145446&author=Niamhxo][rquote=2517341&tid=145446&author=masonbason]
For David?? What has he done, he's a big idiot but he's harmless really![/rquote]

Precisely because he is a big idiot for hanging around with Lisa, telling her what everyone was saying, telling i dont care, just see him now turn and kiss up to everyone else for the next three days...[/rquote]

Yeah, doesn't warrant claws being drawn though does it? [/rquote]

Yes but dont get me wrong, i find him entertaining to watch, he is the village idiot of big brother..

Poor genes thats it..[/rquote]

Are you reffering to her sexulity?
If so, are you creating a similarity to being gay and having a genetic disorer?[/rquote]

Could be, either that or being a straight is a gentic disorder, dont know..

Unjust and an unhealthy scorn for Lisa over and over again.
I'd also add the same people who claim to have loved (example) Marcy for being a 'tough talker' resent Lisa for being a rough and unpretentious HM,
and,
Are happy to criticise her for sitting outside at the bus stop but had no criticism for other HMs who.. ..sat or even laid on beds or sofas inside all the time.
At least she was sitting upright, outside and doing some sort of action with her hands. Others laid on beds.
and,
People 'claim' they want to see someone who is a real down-to-earth unpretentious 'real person' but have actually proven themselves insincere. This is exactly why BB DOES enter phonies, pretentious 'actors' and insincere types because people like them (pick your example) do get by to the end and loved while people like Lisa do get jeered and disliked.

I have criticised Lisa for a bad habit of reverting into her 'Rude Dyke' shelter in the beginning but then appreciated her for losing that Marcus-like 'defense character' and being more and more her true self which is perfectly loving and that is a strong (not 'soft') characteristic.
She did instinctively lull back to that 'character' for a few minutes in the hardest parts of her interviews BUT not so much and not so far and stayed true.

But still that was a HM who was 'herself' and improved, journeyed and became a better person for it all in the end,
and,
contrary to lame OTT propaganda - Lisa was a central character, an 'Alpha' (hate that term but there it is) and made many a twist and turn.
the problem is that far too many viewers are now 16-22 year olds (not a crime) but too many are simply unable to see how Lisa did that.

BTW.. Lisa never really did 'pick on Freddy' or 'Bully Freddy' and Freddy was not kept in to spite Lisa who was NOT empress over the Karly-Charl-Kris-Soph model 'block' anyways,
and,
Balls to her when seemingly pushed for some regret or 'apology' over Freddy she simply refused and stood by her opinions. Good.
He was an annoying little shlt who was in the wrong and she most definitely sent him packing and so good on her for standing by that.
She was straight forward and honest in the interviews as she was inside. Good.
She was also bang-on right in call after call and made correct judgments over and over - often benefiting your current favourite HMs btw.

Lisa goes out as a BB legend and although technically not a 'Finalist' she made it to the end and was a huge character in the season and thankfully too because without her it would have been dreadful 'models' and poster boys laying in bed telling each other how great they are and what their Agents have lined up.

Lisa - HUGE in making this season and will be more appreciated as time passes.

Oh.. now go vote for the prettiest muppet who are acting the funnest. Good job.

[rquote=2517325&tid=145446&author=wushyboo]i really dont see what lisa has done all she did was join in with tasks apart from that she sat at the bus stop she never picked on anyone she stood up for herself a couple of times but she gave good advice and was like a mother to some of them i dont know what big bro people had been watching but there is 100% noway anyone could call her a bully and no reason for the extreme boo's she got i think it is the horrible audeience ruining BB brandishing serious words like bullying around when they feel a little hurt because someone told them what to do or figured out there nasty personality[/rquote]

Spot on but she did sort of turn into a bit of crabby old woman over the last few days. I guess it was high blood pressure caused by the nicotine overload she has been building her intake as the number of housemates has reduced, and a touch of PET (Pre Eviction Tension) making her so jumpy.

Not a bad lass though.