What's happening with Siavash reminds me a lot of what happened with Ziggy.
 

Both have had stressful times during and in the aftermaths of their relationships.

Both allowed the aforementioned stress to make them decide on leaving, but backing out after a chat with BB about it. Although Ziggy did it like 5 times and Vash only once albeit 1 day away from the final.

Both seem concious to public reception. Remember when Ziggy came out to a fairly decent reception; but looked like a lost puppy? I think Siavash is more interested in just getting a decent reception to sort of ease himself, rather than go for the top prize.

If he's a gameplayer then he must be one of the worst ever. For someone who knows BB, using the "Charity and I want to walk, but decide to stay" cards never work.

Hes not gameplanning

[rquote=2533392&tid=145975&author=-BB~Jordan-]Hes not gameplanning [/rquote]

Please tell me that you're joking

It's not gameplanning (which is more premeditated term), it's more about feeling embarassed after the last few days of a task built around his cheating on his GF....so plain to my eye anyway

[rquote=2533399&tid=145975&author=J-Rock]It's not gameplanning (which is more premeditated term), it's more about feeling embarassed after the last few days of a task built around his cheating on his GF....so plain to my eye anyway[/rquote]

Exactly J-Rock

[rquote=2533382&tid=145975&author=Sir_Diary_of_Room us]Both have had stressful times during and in the aftermaths of their relationships.

Both allowed the aforementioned stress to make them decide on leaving, but backing out after a chat with BB about it. Although Ziggy did it like 5 times and Vash only once albeit 1 day away from the final.

Both seem concious to public reception. Remember when Ziggy came out to a fairly decent reception; but looked like a lost puppy? I think Siavash is more interested in just getting a decent reception to sort of ease himself, rather than go for the top prize.

As a gameplayer he must be one of the worst ever. For someone who knows BB, using the "Charity and I want to walk, but decide to stay" cards never work.[/rquote]

You are assuming he is playing those "cards". All i see is a bloke who has been pushed to the limits emotionally this week, - none of the other HMs have been treated like this - it's a subtle form of bullying, highlighting a weakness and constantly bringing it up. That is what BB is doing because they do NOT want Siavash to win. It's blatant discrimination.

The only reason they don't want him to walk now is because voting has started.

[rquote=2533399&tid=145975&author=J-Rock]It's not gameplanning (which is more premeditated term), it's more about feeling embarassed after the last few days of a task built around his cheating on his GF....so plain to my eye anyway[/rquote]

Nope, it's spinning the whole thing in his favour in order to gain support, like he's done on numerous occassions in the past. He doesn't feel that much remorse about the whole affair, and if he did why not just leave and stop waffling for two hours in a diary room and then proceeding to party?

What about the charity card he played when he was up against Marcus for eviction? He'll literally do anything to win. Could you honestly see him leaving tonight? Me arse. Never going to happen.

[rquote=2533392&tid=145975&author=-BB~Jordan-]Hes not gameplanning [/rquote]

The way I said it was supposed to be sarcastic.

[rquote=2533392&tid=145975&author=-BB~Jordan-]Hes not gameplanning [/rquote]

His biggest gameplan was to get his 'mate' Marcus out of the way, saying he wanted Marcus to win BB, when they were both up for eviction, to cover for his crafty plan of getting himself up against Marcus.

Not a gameplan. Vash is a people pleaser and he has realized he needs to (rather too late), apologize to his ex. Not his fault, just his personality.

FFS - you wouldn't act like that if it was a big 'gameplan' - he knows he's probably looking a bit stupid, but he wants to limit the damage in terms of how he's perceived after what BB have been doing last few days to him.

This G word gets in the way of so much.

The only people who had proper pre-meditated 'Gameplans' were Lisa (block voting, bullying etc.) and probably Charlie (to win it for his mother - he has almost admitted as much).

The rest all have gameplans (with a small 'g') for various more everyday reasons imo (like you may have a gameplan to avoid your boss telling you off for something, or avoid looking like a prat in public etc.)...

[rquote=2533429&tid=145975&author=Sir_Diary_of_Room us][rquote=2533392&tid=145975&author=-BB~Jordan-]Hes not gameplanning [/rquote]

The way I said it was supposed to be sarcastic. [/rquote]

Sorry Sir - slightly mis-read your post there - I'm getting ya now...

I am glad to see there are some sensible people on here who see it just for what it is. Well said Siavash soupporters.

[rquote=2533399&tid=145975&author=J-Rock]It's not gameplanning (which is more premeditated term), it's more about feeling embarassed after the last few days of a task built around his cheating on his GF....so plain to my eye anyway[/rquote]

Exactly.

He should never have cheated...thats obvious.

But the way BB picked the one day that would make him even more raw about it, is ridiculous.

[rquote=2533432&tid=145975&author=Fendertele][rquote=2533392&tid=145975&author=-BB~Jordan-]Hes not gameplanning [/rquote]

His biggest gameplan was to get his 'mate' Marcus out of the way, saying he wanted Marcus to win BB, when they were both up for eviction, to cover for his crafty plan of getting himself up against Marcus.[/rquote]

Oh yeah, of course, because he KNEW that he would stay over marcus didnt he?

Given that they were told freddie was favourite, then marcus beat him :rolleyes:

I really would love to see how some people on here would react if they had messed up like Siavash has, and how they would handle it....oh wait, you're all perfect aren't you and have never made a mistake in your whole lives. :rolleyes:

[rquote=2533503&tid=145975&author=VickyJ][rquote=2533432&tid=145975&author=Fendertele][rquote=2533392&tid=145975&author=-BB~Jordan-]Hes not gameplanning [/rquote]

His biggest gameplan was to get his 'mate' Marcus out of the way, saying he wanted Marcus to win BB, when they were both up for eviction, to cover for his crafty plan of getting himself up against Marcus.[/rquote]

Oh yeah, of course, because he KNEW that he would stay over marcus didnt he?

Given that they were told freddie was favourite, then marcus beat him :rolleyes:[/rquote]

Yes I believe Siavash edged his bets and took a chance that Marcus would go, he wanted him to go because if you remember Marcus was getting very vocal about Siavash and his crafty ways, Marcus seen right through him.

You are messing with quantam mathematics when you are in there, you can have a 'loose' game plan, but you would have to be the 'Lord Almighty' himself to engineer what happens to others in there, and if you try and take somebody down, the ensuing result would you usually mean that you would sacrifice yourself to achieve that.


I just think he is a maladjusted young man unsure of his surroundings, acutely conscious of how is viewed by the viewing public, which is in direct conflict to the person he wants to be, this outward exuding extrovert, wanting a rock and roll life style.

Siavash /ziggy .Yes in some ways a god analagy

Yep, I found Ziggy deeply annoying too. Another one who totally created his own problems then spent the rest of the series boring us with his regrets. And never left despite constantly threatening too.

Both full of BS.

i would pee my pants if he won and did give all the money to charity,but i am sure the cynics would still find something to slag him off for.

[rquote=2533889&tid=145975&author=squinky]i would pee my pants if he won and did give all the money to charity,but i am sure the cynics would still find something to slag him off for.[/rquote]We will never know unless he wins.

[rquote=2533397&tid=145975&author=setanta][rquote=2533392&tid=145975&author=-BB~Jordan-]Hes not gameplanning [/rquote]

Please tell me that you're joking[/rquote]

You need to give it a rest its getting old :nono:

Why dont you go support the person you want to win instead of the Siavash hate trolling comments you are posting :pat:

[rquote=2533889&tid=145975&author=squinky]i would pee my pants if he won and did give all the money to charity,but i am sure the cynics would still find something to slag him off for.[/rquote]

Well then he would have only done it as he couldnt back out of it after saying it

OR

He is trying to look the martyr in the eyes of the media.

I can just see it :rolleyes:

[rquote=2533392&tid=145975&author=-BB~Jordan-]Hes not gameplanning [/rquote]

Siavash IS gameplanning. Its just not about the money. Its about making him look good.