Too late to save these devil kids
 

WHEN did it happen that we became scared of our kids?
At what point did adults stop ticking off badly behaved children on the street for fear of being knifed, raped, abused or reported to the police?

And how come a society that prides itself on its liberalism and its freedoms - which boasts about taking care of the weak and the vulnerable - is now so terrified of its children that it hides from them and is unable to control them because The System won't allow it?

The fact is, this Government's refusal to tackle child criminality - to accept that radical action is needed to save "devil children" like those two Doncaster boys who tortured and nearly murdered two lads from their estate - has given the green light to armies of little savages who just laugh at the law.

Evil
And they're laughing because they know that no one has the will, the guts or the power to use it against them.

This Government's limp-wristed laws and incentives have empowered children to the point where they can't be disciplined, reined-in or even told what to do.

Parents and teachers have been stripped of their right to chastise and to punish kids, which is why the feral oiks roaming our streets have no fear, no conscience and no sense of right and wrong.

These mini-criminals know that whatever they do it will always be excused (or ignored) by a government that refuses to accept some children are motivated by evil.

These are the very children who NEED decent parents - yet it's not an option for most of them, which is why they must be taken in hand and, yes, punished if need be, by a force bigger and scarier than them.

And maybe if that had happened to those two boys from Doncaster (aged just 10 and 11) then they wouldn't have ended up torturing two little lads to the point of death.

By the age of 10, those toe-rags had notched up 40 crimes between them yet the law did nothing. Social services did nothing. The police did nothing and their idiot parents did nothing.

Consequently they believed they were invincible, which is why they battered two innocent boys (aged nine and 11) with bricks, forced them to sexually abuse each other, stubbed out a cigarette on one boy's eyelid and stamped on his genitals then sliced open the arm of the other and stuck a burning cigarette into the wound.

One boy had his head stamped on so viciously he went temporarily blind.

But despite the fact these monsters danced around those bleeding boys shouting "they're not dead yet", they haven't been charged with attempted murder. They have been allowed to plead guilty to a lesser charge.

But why? Why in the face of such undiluted evil have these boys, yet again, been offered the soft option? Is that going to make them realise they've done something horribly wrong? I don't think so.

And no, it hasn't helped that they have a drug-addicted mother who sprinkled cannabis on their food to make them sleep. Which is why it was always going to be up to the social services, the police, health workers and our legal system to show these boys the way. And they've all failed - spectacularly!

And who was it who decided that "empowering" kids was a good idea? Why did we tell them they had rights, that they were our equals, that their needs were paramount? They're not.

Children, especially the bad ones, need rules, they need guidance and they need to live in a society that cares how they grow up - a society that says "enough" when they step out of line.

Cocky
Because we've all now had enough of cocky kids who know they can hurt people, scare them, damage their property, even half-kill them - safe in the knowledge that the law will look away.

Children also need to know fear, because without it they won't follow society's rules. They also need to know there are boundaries that if crossed will result in REAL punishment - NOT community service and NOT Asbos.

Those two Doncaster boys deserve to be punished - but they probably won't be. They'll be put somewhere to be "helped".

The REAL tragedy here is that at 11 years old it's already too late to save minds as warped as theirs.

And that's the fault of this unthinking, cheapskate Government that likes to be seen to throw money at education and child protection - but doesn't actually give a stuff.


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"And they're laughing because they know that no one has the will, the guts or the power to use it against them."


Exactly.

Where is the discipline?

[rquote=2552406&tid=147083&author=Mrluvaluva]"And they're laughing because they know that no one has the will, the guts or the power to use it against them."


Exactly.

Where is the discipline?[/rquote]

11 years of no good New Labour.

They should have been taken from their mother when it was clear she was going to take no responsibility for them

[rquote=2552550&tid=147083&author=NettoSuperstar!]They should have been taken from their mother when it was clear she was going to take no responsibility for them[/rquote]

yes and that Social Workers Team were not funded right
due to New Labour Cuts
FACT.

Parents should be allowed to hit children, and bring back the cane as well. A lot of it comes from school and seeing how other people behave. Schools have zero authority over most kids and a lot of teachers get walked right over because the worst they can do is shout at you.

Under the Tories it would be worse

[rquote=2552623&tid=147083&author=NettoSuperstar!]Under the Tories it would be worse[/rquote]

The Point is we are not
we are under Corrupt New Labour.
Deal with It.

[rquote=2552620&tid=147083&author=Tom]Parents should be allowed to hit children, and bring back the cane as well. A lot of it comes from school and seeing how other people behave. Schools have zero authority over most kids and a lot of teachers get walked right over because the worst they can do is shout at you.

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Vote No Good New Labour out
and it will return to that.
Fact.

But Conservatives have no consideration for the working class, hence I won't vote for them

[rquote=2552747&tid=147083&author=Tom]But Conservatives have no consideration for the working class, hence I won't vote for them [/rquote]

[rquote=2552747&tid=147083&author=Tom]But Conservatives have no consideration for the working class, hence I won't vote for them [/rquote]


It is Time For Change.

[rquote=2552764&tid=147083&author=arista][rquote=2552747&tid=147083&author=Tom]But Conservatives have no consideration for the working class, hence I won't vote for them [/rquote]


It is Time For Change.[/rquote]

Lets put poor people even more out of pocket, just so we can sit back and laugh at them whilst saving money on taxes etc, which we can afford to pay anyway :rolleyes:

You are wrong, You are living in the past,
Times have Changed

And Back to this story, "This Topic"
Cut backs by Stinking New Labour helped cause this Tragedy.
Fact.

It's not politics - it's basically how to deal with human nature when legalities aren't in place.

So basically you need a quick and fast legal reaction to this behaviour and one where they are not sent to a place where rehabilitation is like 7 years at the waldorf astoria.

They need to be deprived of a great deal of life's comforts and that is also rehabilitation. It makes them realise, that doing these things aren't acceptable in the country you live in.

Not, trying to give them an understanding of why it is bad and explaining it to them.

And before we go blaming the justice system lets consider the s*** parenting, neglect and abuse, social deprivation, exposure to violence and access to violent films/computer games etc (at a vunerable age) that is at the root of it all!...there...noone else was gonna...

[rquote=2552731&tid=147083&author=arista][rquote=2552620&tid=147083&author=Tom]Parents should be allowed to hit children, and bring back the cane as well. A lot of it comes from school and seeing how other people behave. Schools have zero authority over most kids and a lot of teachers get walked right over because the worst they can do is shout at you.

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Vote No Good New Labour out
and it will return to that.
Fact.[/rquote]Fact? Any details about this "Fact."

[rquote=2559709&tid=147083&author=andyman][rquote=2552731&tid=147083&author=arista][rquote=2552620&tid=147083&author=Tom]Parents should be allowed to hit children, and bring back the cane as well. A lot of it comes from school and seeing how other people behave. Schools have zero authority over most kids and a lot of teachers get walked right over because the worst they can do is shout at you.

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Vote No Good New Labour out
and it will return to that.
Fact.[/rquote]Fact? Any details about this "Fact."[/rquote]Arista where is this "fact" you highly speak of?

THE slob mum whose "hell boy" sons tortured and half-killed two youngsters has spent the past five months on a luxury seaside holiday - with TAXPAYERS footing the £5,000 bill.
The boozing sponger, 36, was whisked from her council house amid fears for her safety after April's horror and has not looked back since, The Sun can reveal.



Bone idle ... she takes swig from can
Doncaster Council splashed out for a gleaming new seaside caravan to be her bolthole - at a resort boasting its own swimming pool and yards from a sandy beach.

The mum, who has never done a day's work, snubbed seeing her sadistic lads aged 12 and ten appear in court last week as she continued to party away the summer.

Yesterday - as the young savages who shocked Britain remained in custody over their orgy of evil - the life of Riley went on for their mum.

A worker at the East Coast resort said: "It's a disgrace. People coming here have to pay for their holidays. She's had it all for free."


Case ... sun last week

The Sun spent days watching as the mini-skirted mum, who cannot be named for legal reasons:

Stocked up on LAGER and VODKA drinks after rarely rolling out of bed before 10am.

LOUNGED in the sun as she GUZZLED booze, chain-smoked and chatted on her mobile.

Disappeared into the caravan she now calls home to grab a PARTY DRESS which she showed off to a chum - seemingly without a care in the world.

On one occasion she was too bone idle to walk the 100 yards to the site's shop for her fags - so drove.

The caravan she currently lives in is believed to be a pal's - after she had to leave the £400-a-week peak season one paid for by the council amid complaints of dog mess and piles of empty bottles.

The mum continues to while away her days playing bingo and mingling with tourists in arcades and bars.

Back in Doncaster, South Yorks, locals are still reeling at her sons' attack on a lad of nine and an 11-year-old who was left fighting for life.

The brothers admitted GBH with intent and sexually abusing their victims.

A woman relative at their mum's caravan swore at The Sun and said: "She doesn't want to talk."

Lets face it they never had a chance! Send her to prison for neglect!