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merv 14-09-2009 11:20 AM

Channel4 may have too change there minds now
 
Why!? PRODUCT PLACEMENT, thats why.
For the first time permission as been given for Television company's to show/advertise products on British Television shows.
For years aired programs have not been allowed to, BB always puts stickers over the products, Tee Shirts slogan, Soaps show products with labels facing away from Camera.
Under new rules, if advertisers pay for the product to be shown they can now do it.
And it's worth Millions to them.
BB as the potential to be in the Big Earners making it very viable to keep it going.
Watch this space.

Niamh. 14-09-2009 11:22 AM

Really?? hhmm, If they do keep it, I hope they get some new staff in cos their ideas were shite this year

ricky2k9 14-09-2009 11:22 AM

Thats true actually, all the housemates shopping can be aired.

karezza 14-09-2009 11:22 AM

The entire Tesco shopping list could be advertised. So much air time.

merv 14-09-2009 11:28 AM

It would also mean that named items that housemates wear could be funded by companys.


Niamh. 14-09-2009 11:28 AM

It would be like the Trueman show with HMs being told to show alot of certain products etc!!! Imagine Freddie getting into the mmmmmmmm................aaahhhhhh........mmmmmmmm. ..........Radox

Cybele 14-09-2009 11:33 AM

I'm surprised this hasn't already been happening. They do it in America and in movies.

Scarlett. 14-09-2009 12:10 PM

[rquote=2569567&tid=147617&author=Cybele]I'm surprised this hasn't already been happening. They do it in America and in movies. [/rquote]The ban lift was only just announced yesterday

And yes, this may rescue BB

Appearance_Of_A_Junky 14-09-2009 12:11 PM

Commercialism will destroy the world, its a bad thing that this law has changed.

eye sea 14-09-2009 12:42 PM

[rquote=2569551&tid=147617&author=merv]Why!? PRODUCT PLACEMENT, thats why.
For the first time permission as been given for Television company's to show/advertise products on British Television shows.
For years aired programs have not been allowed to, BB always puts stickers over the products, Tee Shirts slogan, Soaps show products with labels facing away from Camera.
Under new rules, if advertisers pay for the product to be shown they can now do it.
And it's worth Millions to them.
BB as the potential to be in the Big Earners making it very viable to keep it going.
Watch this space.[/rquote]

LOL. Good point there, OP!:joker:

Poor Channel 4, what idiots!:pat:

RCW1945 14-09-2009 12:45 PM

The new regulation excludes children's programmes: you decide.

Cybele 14-09-2009 12:56 PM

[rquote=2569588&tid=147617&author=Appearance_Of_A_J unky]Commercialism will destroy the world, its a bad thing that this law has changed.[/rquote]

Not really. Considering how many US shows are watched here with high ratings, I don't see how anyone is adversely affected. So instead of seeing a can with a COLA sticker on it, we see a can of coke. Or rather than seeing a jacket or hat with tape across it, you will be able to see the Nike swoosh or whatever.

cleaner67 14-09-2009 01:27 PM

[rquote=2569587&tid=147617&author=Mr.Corrie][rquote=2569567&tid=147617&author=Cybele]I'm surprised this hasn't already been happening. They do it in America and in movies. [/rquote]The ban lift was only just announced yesterday

And yes, this may rescue BB[/rquote] I really do hope so.

Appearance_Of_A_Junky 14-09-2009 01:37 PM

[rquote=2569626&tid=147617&author=Cybele][rquote=2569588&tid=147617&author=Appearance_Of_A_J unky]Commercialism will destroy the world, its a bad thing that this law has changed.[/rquote]

Not really. Considering how many US shows are watched here with high ratings, I don't see how anyone is adversely affected. So instead of seeing a can with a COLA sticker on it, we see a can of coke. Or rather than seeing a jacket or hat with tape across it, you will be able to see the Nike swoosh or whatever. [/rquote]

What does ratings have to do with it?

I can understand why it wouldn't be such a bad thing regarding TV shows that sensibly place products in, and yeah, its normallly clothing/drinks/food brands. Yet, I can't see how some programs wouldn't then start needing this to finance themselves (as BB is mentioned), but then when does it mean that instead of a cutaway to the garden with birds singing, it doesn't cut to a can of coke.

Do you think there is a difference between subliminal messaging and product placement.

Will the BBC be allowed to do it? What happens about the TV licence if so?

Big companies that have the money and the power can drive smaller business out with product placement as it does have an effect, is that such a good thing (especially in this country where most of the big companies aren't even domestically owned anymore) and we buy more American products and Japanese products that have the financial backing rather than the small independent ones.

Big business operate in a greedy way, why should we allow them another avenue to strangle the market place by over dominance?

vladicus 14-09-2009 02:15 PM

its a good way for bb to make money as people like to skip ads

Appearance_Of_A_Junky 14-09-2009 02:19 PM

[rquote=2569707&tid=147617&author=vladicus]its a good way for bb to make money as people like to skip ads[/rquote]

Yeah, but the TV companies know that people do this (as do the ad companies) wouldn't that just encourage them to blitz the programs with PP?

The American TV shows have more ad breaks to keep you watching, could this happen here as well. They don't have ad breaks between programs as thats when you might change station, but they do have more during the shows, is this the way we want British TV to go?

Shasown 14-09-2009 02:47 PM

Its not definate yet, its expected to be announced over the next week. Even if the ban is lifted for ITV etc, it will remain in place for the BBC, so no licence fee reductions - Ba****ds

It will be interesting to see how they deal with it in BB, will they allow all products to be displayed and give prominence to any that pay for placement, or do they blank out only those that havent paid? Booze would still have to be covered though especially if the medical profession force though the blanket ban on alcohol advertising.

nut 14-09-2009 03:24 PM

OP you are forgeting 1 or 2 things= C4 will not be renewing the contract with endemol end of! and no other TV station wants anything to do with Big brother, the show as come to a natural death millions have turned off advertisers have pulled out because the show is not pulling in the viewers it once use to. ask your self this? would you waste your advertising revenue on a failing show? sorry that's bad business practice - advertisers are pulling away from BB and not trying to join the show, ever since the jade and the racism row big companies have wanted nothing to do with the show virgin, O2 ect.. now its lucozade next year who will it be? the fish and chip shop down the road?

Appearance_Of_A_Junky 14-09-2009 03:28 PM

[rquote=2569804&tid=147617&author=nut]OP you are forgeting 1 or 2 things= C4 will not be renewing the contract with endemol end of! and no other TV station wants anything to do with Big brother, the show as come to a natural death millions have turned off advertisers have pulled out because the show is not pulling in the viewers it once use to. ask your self this? would you waste your advertising revenue on a failing show? sorry that's bad business practice - advertisers are pulling away from BB and not trying to join the show, ever since the jade and the racism row big companies have wanted nothing to do with the show virgin, O2 ect.. now its lucozade next year who will it be? the fish and chip show down the road? [/rquote]

Can't be the chippy, that is fatty food and so that will be bad.

You can however advertise companies that exploit cheap foriegn labour and rape the earth though....

nut 14-09-2009 03:34 PM

[rquote=2569809&tid=147617&author=Appearance_Of_A_J unky][rquote=2569804&tid=147617&author=nut]OP you are forgeting 1 or 2 things= C4 will not be renewing the contract with endemol end of! and no other TV station wants anything to do with Big brother, the show as come to a natural death millions have turned off advertisers have pulled out because the show is not pulling in the viewers it once use to. ask your self this? would you waste your advertising revenue on a failing show? sorry that's bad business practice - advertisers are pulling away from BB and not trying to join the show, ever since the jade and the racism row big companies have wanted nothing to do with the show virgin, O2 ect.. now its lucozade next year who will it be? the fish and chip show down the road? [/rquote]

Can't be the chippy, that is fatty food and so that will be bad.

You can however advertise companies that exploit cheap foriegn labour and rape the earth though....[/rquote]why? they show MCdonalds on adds? and IMHO Tesco would ask to make sure their brand was coverd up on BB they would not want to be associated with the show in any way just like virgin and O2 have wanted nothing to do with it.

Scarlett. 14-09-2009 04:55 PM

[rquote=2569588&tid=147617&author=Appearance_Of_A_J unky]Commercialism will destroy the world, its a bad thing that this law has changed.[/rquote]People said the same when programme sponsorship came about :whistle:

nut 14-09-2009 05:41 PM

[rquote=2570039&tid=147617&author=Mr.Corrie][rquote=2569588&tid=147617&author=Appearance_Of_A_J unky]Commercialism will destroy the world, its a bad thing that this law has changed.[/rquote]People said the same when programme sponsorship came about :whistle:[/rquote]did they? who was that then? any links to what you say is true? that having sponsorship on programmes would destroy the world? Id love to know who said that PMSL

eye sea 14-09-2009 05:43 PM

I think it's called 'closing the stable door after the horse has bolted...'.:joker:

Appearance_Of_A_Junky 14-09-2009 05:49 PM

[rquote=2570039&tid=147617&author=Mr.Corrie][rquote=2569588&tid=147617&author=Appearance_Of_A_J unky]Commercialism will destroy the world, its a bad thing that this law has changed.[/rquote]People said the same when programme sponsorship came about :whistle:[/rquote]

Well seeing as how sponsership is apart of commercialisation my point still stands, individual things won't but collectively they might.

Off to dinner now.

There is a huge difference between commercialisation and sponsoring a program.


nut 14-09-2009 05:49 PM

[rquote=2570196&tid=147617&author=eye sea]I think it's called 'closing the stable door after the horse has bolted...'.:joker:[/rquote]???? what on earth are you on about? please explain? i have no clue what you are getting at? anyone else know? because ill be *******ed if i know what eye sea is trying to say?


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