Ben: Mario isnt the sneakest backstabbing snake in the house shocker!
 

His over use of the word 'friend' to Sunshine, while all the while selling out to her enemies...

His whispered statement of 'I don't think we are supposed to have them, but..' before oniongate...

His knowing smirking to mario while the whole david/ govan thing kicked off...

I honestly thought Mario would be the slimiest HM this year by what I had seen so far, but this guy takes it for sure.

No wonder they get on.

ben is awesome!!

this.

sorry but its a game show after all. i want team ben to beat team bitch into the ground cause we don't wants bores to win

Awesome as in a entertaining HM? (which I can agree with)

or awesome that you like slimey two faced manipulative people?

Yeah Im not sure, I really like him but he could be sneaky, at oniongate when he knew he couldnt have them but let Dave take all the stick was a bit :S

i pick him over team bitch any day or josie for that matter cause he gives entertaining tv

Just now speaking to Rachael he was saying that he was sometimes part of the Sunshine, Dave, Mario group and sometimes wasn't. He's trying desperately to please everyone, will in the end please no-one.

because he is a two faced slimey 'friend' of no one?

Ben is officially awesome, and if you want manipulation I suggest you take a look at Govan in action.

I love how you got a special 'Die' section for Gollum lmfao :joker:

The thing is I think your wrong here.

govan, and I am not a fan, is at least open in his likes/ dislikes. You know if he has an issue with you and he wears his friendships very openly. You could even say he was loyal.

Ben on the other hand says 'I am your friend' a lot, while going to your enemies and slagging you, as he has done to Sunshine.

or watching his 'friends' get burned down in public, as he did with Dave, and doing nothing.

Ben seems to be a whole world more game playing and manipulative.

i wouldn't want tyo be friends with team bitch if i was in his shoes
nasty pieces of work
watch as shabby goes on fridaty and team ben rules

once i read the govan section i gave up:joker:

Thats a shame, you must have missed the point being made.

Hahaha, I felt it needed doing! :D

You actually believe that?

Is that why he is so sly with his bitching and backstabbing.

When people walk in who is talking about he will continue with his character assassination but then change either the context of it or the person to whonm he is referring if asked.

Hey, I said I am not a fan of his. I think he is a nasty little prick tbh.

What I was saying is that the people that Govan dosent like know it. The people that Ben dosent like don't.

And please remember Ben was part of that conversation about change that I assume you are refering to (when Sunshine walked in). The difference is that Sunshine KNOWS Govan hates her, but she THINKS ben is her friend.

Hope that clears that up some.